nVidia G80 vs. ATI (AMD) R600

[Anusha]

Which would be better?

[Anusha]

I voted for the second option. But I might be wrong.

[chaminga_d]

I cant vote 4 any thing bec. i didn't tested any of these.... other thing is price....

[zCexVe]

I'll vote after they come out and go little around.I hav to read some about them uknw.coz i cant afford any of them..

[Anusha]

I'll vote after they come out and go little around.I hav to read some about them uknw.coz i cant afford any of them..

Oh come on. What's the point of voting after the results are released? :confused:

[amila325]

ane macho monada kiyala danne nathuwa vote karanne komada man gawa thiyenne geforce 5200 1kui RX9200 1kui i don't know much about those:( :( :(

[Anusha]

Just take a guess. I'll try to post the anticipated specs of R600 and also the specs of already released G80.

[zCexVe]

Oh come on. What's the point of voting after the results are released? :confused:
If my decision goes wrong u'll be the first to remember it.So its very wise thing to back off a while and time do the trick:):):)

[amila325]

because i had used both nvidia and ati i think for games ati is good

[Anusha]

If you compare the video memory specs,

G80
GDDR3
784MB
384bit Memory bus width
1.8GHz
86GB/sec bandwidth

R600
GDDR4
1024MB
512bit Memory bus width
2.5GHz
160GB/sec bandwidth

[Anusha]

If my decision goes wrong u'll be the first to remember it.So its very wise thing to back off a while and time do the trick:):):)

Chicken?

[amila325]

wow i think r600 gonna hit the butt of g80

[Anusha]

wow i think r600 gonna hit the butt of g80

Haha. Now you are talking. But can't just look at the memory subsystem performance and come to a conclusion.

[amila325]

may be machan but i think ati gonna win this i personally like nvidia but this time hhhhmmmmmmmmm......

[zCexVe]

Chicken?
U knw what?
I'm a Vegetarian & I dont take Drugs..
And GDDR3 & GDDR4 doesnt mean that ATI will win..[IMO]

[Anusha]

may be machan but i think ati gonna win this i personally like nvidia but this time hhhhmmmmmmmmm......

Even though Geforce 8800 is a kick-ass card, people aren't buying it as much as they did when the 7800GTX was launched. They are waiting for the ATI's reply.

[Anusha]

U knw what?
I'm a Vegetarian & I dont take Drugs..
And GDDR3 & GDDR4 doesnt mean that ATI will win..[IMO]

Look at the resulting memory bandwidth dammit. R600's is about twice as much as G80's. And GDDR4 means, lower power consumption.

And I'm sorry that you couldn't understand what I meant. I really am!

[zCexVe]

use it without the '?'.I said it In My Opinion.Who knows nVidia & ATI knws best.u2.But not me.If a thing happens to it like it happened to Motorola E 1020..

[shanX]

Anusha, are u workin for ATI :lol:

[Anusha]

use it without the '?'.I said it In My Opinion.Who knows nVidia & ATI knws best.u2.But not me.If a thing happens to it like it happened to Motorola E 1020..

Yeah, yeah I know. But I thought you only noticed the 3 and 4 in GDDR and got to the conclusion. And there isn't much talk about ATI's GPU. But I know it's the biggest chip that's build up to now.

[Anusha]

Anusha, are u workin for ATI :lol:

Hmmm. You asked something like this before too; whether I work for Microsoft. If I worked in either of them, you'll not see me in this forum, because Sri Lanka is nothing for any of those companies. Who would need to promote their products here? :confused:

[zCexVe]

If I have been working for any highend companies i would promote them here.I think thats why we hav nokia in sinhala too.

[shanX]

wow, G80 is kickin R600's butt, atleast here in Elakiri :lol:

[Anusha]

If I have been working for any highend companies i would promote them here.I think thats why we hav nokia in sinhala too.

But the thing is, I wouldn't even know about any of these Sri Lankan sites then. I would be busier than I would ever have imagined. :yes:

[Anusha]

wow, G80 is kickin R600's butt, atleast here in Elakiri :lol:

Too bad hey. What do YOU think?

[shanX]

:lol: Am :lol: a :lol: Nvidia :lol: fan :lol: boy :lol:

[Anusha]

:lol: Am :lol: a :lol: Nvidia :lol: fan :lol: boy :lol:

Oh ok. But fanboysm is not gonna matter in this clash of the titans.

[themera]

n vidia is gonna kick sum butts

[Anusha]

n vidia is gonna kick sum butts

Yeah it's gonna kick some butts, but maybe not ATI's. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[shanX]

Yeah it's gonna kick some butts, but maybe not ATI's
:lol:

But dont worry, Empire will strike back with a G81-series :lol:

[Anusha]

Then ATI will have R680 or something (remember they released R580 - X1900, soon after R520 - X1800)

[zCexVe]

guyz,what about Ageia Physix chipsets.they say they design chips according to physics[which i hate 2 learn,but love]?do they got performance?i think theyve released 3 chips..

[Anusha]

guyz,what about Ageia Physix chipsets.they say they design chips according to physics[which i hate 2 learn,but love]?do they got performance?i think theyve released 3 chips..

Remember old games and some of the modern games have the problem where you can sometimes see through the walls, part of your riffle goes into the wall, the tyres of vehicle are not 100% touching the terrain (has either gone into the terrain plane or there's a gap between the terrain plane and the tyre's surface....

The role of a physics accelerator is to minimize or even prevent such things from happening. Those things I mentioned are not very big things, but think about a scene where there are a lot of particles and objects colliding with each other - if these things happens, it will affect the realism of the game. But the trend is to add more and more particle effects so keeping the problem count low is not easy for just the CPU. Physics accelerators are designed to relieve that part from the CPU. These are not general purpose processors, so they should be able to perform better than a CPU, in physics processing.

Anyway, I haven't looked much into this area either. Maybe you can read a review of Ageia FPU here (http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/ageia-physx.html).

[zCexVe]

what about their performance?seems like they cost a bit more than others..

[zCexVe]

oh!seems like nothing worry about.It will take 2 or 3 years for them to grow well.

[chaminga_d]

nVidia G80
The physical card itself is quite large and approximately an inch and a half longer than an AMD ATI Radeon X1950 XTX based card. It requires two PCI Express power connectors and occupies two expansion slots.... GeForce 8800GTX consume more power than ATI Radeon X1950 XTX... Performance of GeForce 8800GTX is higher than ATI Radeon X1950 XTX...... G80 use 80nm technology n it is the first dual core GPU ever with the support of DirectX10 and Shader Model 4.0....

R600
vBut i dont know more about R600..... it will be the biggest graphic chip ever The inquirer... this use 65nm technology

G81
[/B]As for the upcoming G71, there will be 32pipes, increase in ROPs and a little speed bump over the core clock.

* 65nm
* 64 Shader pipelines (Vec4+Scalar)
* 32 TMU's
* 32 ROPs
* 128 Shader Operations per Cycle
* 800MHz Core
* 102.4 billion shader ops/sec
* 512GFLOPs for the shaders
* 2 Billion triangles/sec
* 25.6 Gpixels/Gtexels/sec
* 256-bit 512MB 1.8GHz GDDR4 Memory
* 57.6 GB/sec Bandwidth (at 1.8GHz)
* WGF2.0 Unified Shader

[chaminga_d]

Anusha Ayya their is a mistake in your comparison....

nVidia G81 vs ATI R600

if we compare nVidia G80 n ATI R600... there is no fight.... ATI R600 is best....

[Anusha]

Anusha Ayya their is a mistake in your comparison....

nVidia G80 vs ATI X1950
nVidia G81 vs ATI R600

we can only compare current chip with current chip.... if we compare nVidia G80 n ATI R600... there is no fight.... ATI R600 is best....

Nope. Sure ATI is a bit late, but architecture wise R600 and G80 are comparable. G81 will be just a small improvement over G80 (like GF7800 vs GF7900).

[Anusha]

G71
As for the upcoming G71, there will be 32pipes, increase in ROPs and a little speed bump over the core clock.

* 65nm
* 64 Shader pipelines (Vec4+Scalar)
* 32 TMU's
* 32 ROPs
* 128 Shader Operations per Cycle
* 800MHz Core
* 102.4 billion shader ops/sec
* 512GFLOPs for the shaders
* 2 Billion triangles/sec
* 25.6 Gpixels/Gtexels/sec
* 256-bit 512MB 1.8GHz GDDR4 Memory
* 57.6 GB/sec Bandwidth (at 1.8GHz)
* WGF2.0 Unified Shader

Not G71, but G81. :)

[chaminga_d]

Not G71, but G81.

Sorry It's my mistake....

[chaminga_d]

Nope. Sure ATI is a bit late, but architecture wise R600 and G80 are comparable. G81 will be just a small improvement over G80 (like GF7800 vs GF7900).
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small improvement?????? all are improved...
* 65nm
* 64 Shader pipelines (Vec4+Scalar)
* 32 TMU's
* 32 ROPs
* 128 Shader Operations per Cycle
* 800MHz Core
* 102.4 billion shader ops/sec
* 512GFLOPs for the shaders
* 2 Billion triangles/sec
* 25.6 Gpixels/Gtexels/sec
* 256-bit 512MB 1.8GHz GDDR4 Memory
* 57.6 GB/sec Bandwidth (at 1.8GHz)
* WGF2.0 Unified Shader

[Anusha]

65nm = better power consumption and cooler operation

I can only see two differences: Core clock speed has improved, and they have moved to GDDR4 (still doesn't make it faster because the clock speed is the same - but will lower the power consumption)

Pretty much similar to AthlonX2 90nm 4800+ and 65nm 5400+. Not like AthlonX2 4800+ and Core2Duo 6600.

[Anusha]

Sorry It's my mistake....

Oh ok. No problem dude.

[Anusha]

Check this out:
ATI’s Next-Generations R600 Chip Specifications Emerge, Possible Benchmark Results Leak. (http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20070103072506.html)

Still too early to drop into conclusions, but we'll see in a few months' time.

[Anusha]

http://level505.com/2006/12/30/the-full-ati-r600-test/