View Full Version : How Many Fans in Your System Unit
chaminga_d
01-03-2007, 06:32 PM
In My...
1 - Vga Fan
1 - Processor Fan
1 - PSU Fan
2 - Casing fans powered by PSU (Currently stopped bec. of high noise)
2 - Casing fans powered by MOBO (3 Pin... speed sense)
Total - 7
Anusha
01-03-2007, 06:39 PM
In My...
1 - Vga Fan
1 - Processor Fan
1 - PSU Fan
2 - Casing fans powered by PSU (Currently stopped bec. of high noise)
2 - Casing fans powered by MOBO (3 Pin... speed sense)
Total - 7
1 - VGA Fan (don't know about the speeds)
1 - CPU Fan (running at ~900RPM at idle, 2000RPM at max CPU load)
2 - PSU Fans
1 - Chassis Fan (operating at 7V instead of 12V)
1 CPU Fan (@ 4800RPM)
1 PSU Fan
& 4 Chassis fans (all operating @ 2900RPM)
sheyan
01-03-2007, 06:53 PM
Only 2 I think.
shanX
01-03-2007, 08:21 PM
Cpu fan
Vga Fan
PSU Fan
2x Casing fans
Anusha
01-03-2007, 08:26 PM
Cpu fan
Vga Fan
PSU Fan
2x Casing fans
Is the noise tolerable?
shanX
01-03-2007, 08:49 PM
Is the noise tolerable?
Not much noise coz my casing is below the monitor. see...
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8761/11122006002kl5.th.jpg (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11122006002kl5.jpg)
But there is a little, but have to ignore it, what else to do?? :lol:
btw i hav plans to put one near the hd as u suggested once :lol: :lol:
nEoN_wHitE
01-03-2007, 08:51 PM
1 vga Fan
1 processor Fan
1 PSU Fan
(i think ocharai thiyene:lol:)
shanX
01-03-2007, 08:53 PM
Hey, tell me how cud we hav the bios show our system fan speed??? or wts the system fan? :confused:
Novindu
01-03-2007, 09:00 PM
CPU Fan
PSU Fan
Chassis Fan
Anusha
01-03-2007, 09:10 PM
Hey, tell me how cud we hav the bios show our system fan speed??? or wts the system fan? :confused:
U have to plug it into the motherboard sys_fan header.
Anusha
01-03-2007, 09:10 PM
1 vga Fan
1 processor Fan
1 PSU Fan
(i think ocharai thiyene:lol:)
You think? :rolleyes:
shanX
01-03-2007, 09:13 PM
U have to plug it into the motherboard sys_fan header.
The power cable????
Anusha
01-03-2007, 09:14 PM
Not much noise coz my casing is below the monitor. see...
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8761/11122006002kl5.th.jpg (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=11122006002kl5.jpg)
But there is a little, but have to ignore it, what else to do?? :lol:
Maybe since you CPU is a 920 instead of a 820, the fan spins slower. I couldn't tolerate the noise of a 820 based system :eek:
btw i hav plans to put one near the hd as u suggested once :lol: :lol:
Oh ok. But I just told you to add one in front of the hdds rather than underneath them. I didn't say it was compulsory to have fans for hdds, right?
zCexVe
01-03-2007, 09:22 PM
I got 8 fans..
1-CPU fan
1-VGA fan 3000rpm
1-Heat pipe kit+north bridge 3000rpm
1-south bridge-3000 rpm
2-PSU fans 5000 rpm
1-HDD cooler fan 2500 about
1-120mm system fan about 2500 rpm
nEoN_wHitE
01-03-2007, 09:24 PM
thawa thiaynwada cant remeber ekaii:lol:
open karala balanna kamali nee:P:lol:
nEoN_wHitE
01-03-2007, 09:24 PM
You think? :rolleyes:
thawa thiaynwada cant remeber ekaii:lol:
open karala balanna kamali nee:P:lol:
zCexVe
01-03-2007, 09:34 PM
1 vga Fan
1 processor Fan
1 PSU Fan
(i think ocharai thiyene:lol:)
cmon neo,just two screws thre..just open and count...:cool::cool:
zCexVe
01-03-2007, 09:38 PM
U have to plug it into the motherboard sys_fan header.
yes but see the manual 1st.
Some manufacturers have their SYS_FAN conn: the sensor.Some have on PWR_FAN.thats rare,but there r some.
Anusha
01-03-2007, 09:39 PM
The power cable????
Not those fans with molex connectors. There are fans which has both the molex connector and the three pin motherboard power connector. You have to use those fans to read the RPM. But they usually spi at 2000-2500 RPM at the default 12V (0.1A)
Anusha
01-03-2007, 09:41 PM
I got 8 fans..
1-CPU fan
1-VGA fan 3000rpm
1-Heat pipe kit+north bridge 3000rpm
1-south bridge-3000 rpm
2-PSU fans 5000 rpm
1-HDD cooler fan 2500 about
1-120mm system fan about 2500 rpm
Wow! You sure those two PSU fans spin at 5000RPM? With all those fans, you must be like sitting next to a jet engine!
amila325
01-03-2007, 10:48 PM
hoada welawata CPU fan1i Power Unit 1a fan 1i witharai thiyenne :lol: :lol:
zCexVe
01-03-2007, 10:51 PM
Wow! You sure those two PSU fans spin at 5000RPM? With all those fans, you must be like sitting next to a jet engine!
yep,they r transparent,got 4 blue LEDs each and spin @ 5000MAX and can be controllable.Thats why i payed 5500rs 4 the PSU...I usually run them lower than half of speed..If not there will be some sound...
Anusha
01-04-2007, 06:14 AM
I also paid Rs.5,250 for mine, but this was more than 2 years ago. Mine doesn't have those fancy stuff, but does a very good job with the power. The only thing I miss in it is the 24-pin ATX connector (but most motherboards are still backwards compatible with 20-pin one)
shanX
01-04-2007, 09:43 AM
Oh ok. But I just told you to add one in front of the hdds rather than underneath them. I didn't say it was compulsory to have fans for hdds, right?
Yep I know it isnt compulsory and btw i told u am gonna have em infront of hdd's. And I'll take off the only useless item I brought, fdd. And there is a slot for a 2nd fdd, I'lll remove its cover and I'll have some grill or net over em and use it as air vent ;)
I got 8 fans..
:lol: casing might be having a storm inside it
cmon neo,just two screws thre..just open and count...
I dont even have em on
shanX
01-04-2007, 11:22 AM
Guyz, a little off-topic question, JBL Creature 2.1 (http://www.digit-life.com/articles2/jbl-creature/) is available for 8.5k shud i go for em?? I think its 15k at EPSI.
shanX
01-04-2007, 07:48 PM
JBL Creature 2.1 ????
zCexVe
01-04-2007, 09:41 PM
Go for it Man...there is a review at some indian site.. might be www.anandtech.com (http://www.anandtech.com)
or chk www.tomshardware.com (http://www.tomshardware.com)
Its beautiful and sound is done by Harmon engineers..Kooooollllll.....
Ask anusha about the review point,he'll surely knw....
zCexVe
01-04-2007, 09:42 PM
:lol: casing might be having a storm inside it
Nope not even a heavy blow.....
I dont even have em on
even u dont hav things to do that...:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Anusha
01-04-2007, 09:45 PM
Go for it Man...there is a review at some indian site.. might be www.anandtech.com (http://www.anandtech.com)
or chk www.tomshardware.com (http://www.tomshardware.com)
Its beautiful and sound is done by Harmon engineers..Kooooollllll.....
Ask anusha about the review point,he'll surely knw....
I have to dissapoint you people there. I know nothing about speakers. :(
zCexVe
01-04-2007, 09:46 PM
I also paid Rs.5,250 for mine, but this was more than 2 years ago. Mine doesn't have those fancy stuff, but does a very good job with the power. The only thing I miss in it is the 24-pin ATX connector (but most motherboards are still backwards compatible with 20-pin one)
:lol::lol::lol:I got a EPS connector and Transparent fibre casing for the PSU..even 2 year warranty..
shanX
01-04-2007, 10:11 PM
even u dont hav things to do that...:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
So do u hav??
I just wonder, why ur so much intrested in screws :lol:
once u told happily u got 2 of em frm ur dvd-rw ;lol:
Actually r u?????
zCexVe
01-04-2007, 10:29 PM
It keeps us, humans,in this world:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
once u told happily u got 2 of em frm ur dvd-rw ;lol:
Actually r u????? I didnt told like that.I told that 18x samsung writers' package content includes 4 of them coz the retail one b4 didn't had them nor the IDE cable..
check the thread for optical drives by anusha..
and i copied the infoto a piece of paper frm the manual and typed it here..thats why all of them were included...
shanX
01-04-2007, 10:48 PM
Oh btw you were copying, arent u???? :lol:
pasanlaksiri
01-05-2007, 05:57 PM
* CPU fan
* Chipset fan ( 2inch, 2pin fan ) ( 915GEV )
* Hardisk Cooling fan
* Rear Fan ( sucking in )
* Side Bottom 2 fans ( sucking in ) ( with external power ) ( there is a switch in front of the cassing to ON and OFF ) ( 62 C > 48 C )
* 1 fan is on top of the cassing ( sucking out ) ( horizontally )
* Power unit fan ( sucking out )
But u wont belive, it doesnt have that much noise
Anusha
01-05-2007, 06:01 PM
That much noise doesn't mean anything. The maximum noise level a person can tolerate can differ from person to person.
pasanlaksiri
01-05-2007, 08:23 PM
That much noise doesn't mean anything. The maximum noise level a person can tolerate can differ from person to person.
Ha ha dont think like that. Mama kiyanne noise level is depend on quality of the fans.:yes:
Machan samahara fans thiyenawa noise witharai wada naaaaa:lol:
Anusha
01-05-2007, 08:32 PM
Ha ha dont think like that. Mama kiyanne noise level is depend on quality of the fans.:yes:
Machan samahara fans thiyenawa noise witharai wada naaaaa:lol:
Low noise doesn't necessarily mean they are of good quality either.
shanX
01-05-2007, 08:44 PM
mage eka casing fan ekak noise uth nae, perfomance uth nae :lol:
Anusha
01-05-2007, 08:47 PM
mage eka casing fan ekak noise uth nae, perfomance uth nae :lol:
That's a marvellous fan! Wish I could have one :lol: :lol: :lol:
zCexVe
01-05-2007, 08:50 PM
that might not in working comdition:lol: :lol: :lol:
shanX
01-05-2007, 09:01 PM
no its working perfect, even r8 now
pasanlaksiri
01-05-2007, 09:02 PM
Low noise doesn't necessarily mean they are of good quality either.
Hmmm. Looks like u need some practical examples to believe it:( :yes:
Machan samahara brush less fans wala barings tikak sadda wadi. Uba dakala thiyenawada old cooler master fans. Hena saddeta karakenawa.
chaminga_d
01-05-2007, 09:12 PM
if u don't recode voice or audio chat, then noise is not be a problem....
humans, machines all are need cool air.... give u'er processor to breath cool fresh air..... :lol: :lol: :lol:
shanX
01-05-2007, 09:15 PM
and clean air too :lol:
I've used a cool air cleanin system, I'll show u all tomorrow, I'll post here
Anusha
01-05-2007, 09:24 PM
Hmmm. Looks like u need some practical examples to believe it:( :yes:
Machan samahara brush less fans wala barings tikak sadda wadi. Uba dakala thiyenawada old cooler master fans. Hena saddeta karakenawa.
I didn't say always!!! You are mistaken!
Anusha
01-05-2007, 09:26 PM
if u don't recode voice or audio chat, then noise is not be a problem....
humans, machines all are need cool air.... give u'er processor to breath cool fresh air..... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Noise is a big problem! Maybe not to you. But I and some people here leave the PC on throughout the night. It disturbs us to have sweet dreams. Besides, if your CPU is stable, then don't worry much about the cooling. You are not gonna use the same CPU for more than 10 years no?
pasanlaksiri
01-05-2007, 09:34 PM
I didn't say always!!! You are mistaken!
I didn't say always
Wow ur very tricky ne:lol: :lol: :lol:
pasanlaksiri
01-05-2007, 09:36 PM
Noise is a big problem! Maybe not to you. But I and some people here leave the PC on throughout the night. It disturbs us to have sweet dreams. Besides, if your CPU is stable, then don't worry much about the cooling. You are not gonna use the same CPU for more than 10 years no?
I hope to buy a new system november or decemember in this year. :yes: :D
Anusha
01-05-2007, 09:39 PM
Wow ur very tricky ne:lol: :lol: :lol:
I said "not necessarily true". I can't help if you didn't understand it.
A new system in December? That's a whole year to go!
pasanlaksiri
01-05-2007, 09:47 PM
I said "not necessarily true". I can't help if you didn't understand it.
A new system in December? That's a whole year to go!
360 days. Its just nothing
chanakacm
01-06-2007, 08:11 PM
1 : proccesor
2 : Hdd
3 : VGa
4 : for mb
5 casing ekata savikarala thiyenne
zCexVe
01-06-2007, 09:07 PM
It disturbs us to have sweet dreams.
Well.Ure wrong at this.We have to wake up,actually disturbed while seeing the dream to remember the dream..Everybody sees dreams @ night but u only remember them after u get disturbed.Thats why every ppl say "ayyo mage heene aparade mama negetunane" like this.Nobody tells without that.So Noisy fans r required to remember the dreams u see.Thats why we all got them:yes: :D :D :D :D :D
zCexVe
01-06-2007, 09:09 PM
360 days. Its just nothing
My congrats!!! countdown begins:yes::yes::yes::yes::cool:
shanX
01-06-2007, 09:18 PM
But i guess if we cud hav switches externally for fans.... :yes:
Anusha
01-06-2007, 10:00 PM
Well.Ure wrong at this.We have to wake up,actually disturbed while seeing the dream to remember the dream..Everybody sees dreams @ night but u only remember them after u get disturbed.Thats why every ppl say "ayyo mage heene aparade mama negetunane" like this.Nobody tells without that.So Noisy fans r required to remember the dreams u see.Thats why we all got them:yes: :D :D :D :D :D
Well, I was talking more of that sleeping part. You have to actually fall asleep, to see dreams! With the noise of the fans, you can't fall asleep!
Anusha
01-06-2007, 10:03 PM
But i guess if we cud hav switches externally for fans.... :yes:
Maybe, fan controllers would be better. Turning them down is better than turning them off. Besides, you might hit a sweet spot where it doesn't let the system get much hot, and not irritating the ears at the same time.
shanX
01-06-2007, 10:18 PM
But there are some not much useful fans....
Anusha
01-06-2007, 10:24 PM
But there are some not much useful fans....
Such as?
zCexVe
01-06-2007, 10:41 PM
If they rnt useful why would u keep them..
Anushas saying is right.I have tuned my PSU fans to a sweet spot-no much heat nor noise..
there r fans with speed controllers ucan buy them,controller fits in at pci card window of casing.
U can build them for about 40~50 rs.needs just two wires and a variable resistor like in radios..
Pasan will be very kind to help us out,wont you???
Anusha
01-06-2007, 11:00 PM
You can also use two way switches to make the fans work at either 12V (default) or 7V. You can give the yellow wire from the molex connector permanently to the positive terminal and either the red wire (5V) or a black wire (ground) using a two way switch to the negative terminal to make them work at 7V and 12V respestively. You can use the 12V supply when doing heavy tasks and 7V supply when not doing much work.
This way, you are not wasting power either. If you use a resister, then even when you turn down the RPM, it will still dissipate the same amount of power as at max RPM. I know, it's a small power, but we should try to cut power as much as we can, if we can. Think of how much electricity we will be saving when we add them all up from everyones's PCs.
pasanlaksiri
01-07-2007, 12:36 AM
You can also use two way switches to make the fans work at either 12V (default) or 7V. You can give the yellow wire from the molex connector permanently to the positive terminal and either the red wire (5V) or a black wire (ground) using a two way switch to the negative terminal to make them work at 7V and 12V respestively. You can use the 12V supply when doing heavy tasks and 7V supply when not doing much work.
This way, you are not wasting power either. If you use a resister, then even when you turn down the RPM, it will still dissipate the same amount of power as at max RPM. I know, it's a small power, but we should try to cut power as much as we can, if we can. Think of how much electricity we will be saving when we add them all up from everyones's PCs.
But y dont u try to make a circuit for drive fans automatically. Its really interesting.:yes: :D
Anusha
01-07-2007, 06:40 AM
But y dont u try to make a circuit for drive fans automatically. Its really interesting.:yes: :D
Automatically means, thermally adjusted fans? Yeah you can do that :yes:
shanX
01-07-2007, 11:44 AM
Such as?
such as casing fans
there r fans with speed controllers ucan buy them,controller fits in at pci card window of casing.
U can build them for about 40~50 rs.needs just two wires and a variable resistor like in radios..
Pasan will be very kind to help us out,wont you???
pci card window??? where to buy fans with speed controllers?? OMG electrics, i wonder why they dont work for me.... :(
You can also use two way switches to make the fans work at either 12V (default) or 7V. You can give the yellow wire from the molex connector permanently to the positive terminal and either the red wire (5V) or a black wire (ground)
cud we cut wires and switch em? to switch voltages :confused:
But y dont u try to make a circuit for drive fans automatically. Its really interesting.
:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Anusha
01-07-2007, 11:58 AM
cud we cut wires and switch em? to switch voltages :confused:
You don't have to cut them. You can carefully get them out of the molex connector using a hard pin (you have to bend the two small notches that's prevtning them from loosening), and interchange the 0V and 5V (red) and you'll get 7V (12V - 5V).
shanX
01-07-2007, 02:24 PM
omg no idea! btw thnx!
Anusha
01-07-2007, 02:29 PM
omg no idea! btw thnx!
:D :D
zCexVe
01-07-2007, 02:44 PM
ou don't have to cut them. You can carefully get them out of the molex connector using a hard pin (you have to bend the two small notches that's prevtning them from loosening), and interchange the 0V and 5V (red) and you'll get 7V (12V - 5V).
I dont get how we get 7V frm interchanging 5v & 0v.I only knw to get by interchanging +12V yellow and -5V black with red one..
zCexVe
01-07-2007, 02:50 PM
But y dont u try to make a circuit for drive fans automatically. Its really interesting.:yes: :D
I need the circuit , parts and estimated cost buddy;);)
where can we find heat sensors:confused:
I got messed up while fitting my CPU heat sensor.I fitted it between CPU and CPU Cooler,sothat when i fitted it coz of the pressure the heat sensor was flatted:([the tiny little resistor]
I got a CPU heat sensor frm PIII mobo and fitted it :cool:.
Its sensing is gr8 than the previous one:yes:
But i'd like to buy them if i'm making a circuit..
zCexVe
01-07-2007, 02:52 PM
BTW Anusha ayya I forgot that u learn @ "Electronics & Telecom" division..;)
Anusha
01-07-2007, 02:58 PM
I dont get how we get 7V frm interchanging 5v & 0v.I only knw to get by interchanging +12V yellow and -5V black with red one..
There are no negative voltages coming out of any connector :confused: They only go into the motherboard through that big ATX power cable. The normal molex connector has 12V, 0V, 0V, 5V. Besides, +12V and -5V will give you 17V!!! :P
Anusha
01-07-2007, 03:03 PM
Check this out: http://www.heatsink-guide.com/content.php?content=control.shtml
Anusha
01-07-2007, 03:05 PM
And this one too: http://www.virtual-hideout.net/guides/temp_controlled_fan/index.shtml
CPU FAN
VGA FAN
HDD FAN
CASING FAN
ADDITIONAL 2 FANS
ALL FANS ARE
6FANS
MORE FANS MAKE MORE NOISE
BUT
KEEP COOL CPU AS WELL
IT IS GOOD FOR WORK WITH MANY HOURS CONTINUESLY
I ADDED A FAN TO MY HDD
IT IS 300 GB SATA
IT IS TRY TO VERY HOT THEN I ADDED A FAN FOR IT
NOW IT IS COOL AS WELL
zCexVe
01-07-2007, 03:13 PM
Well 4 how much did ya buy your HDD?
Did ya made a cooler 4 the HDD or just fitted a fan near it?
zCexVe
01-07-2007, 03:14 PM
There are no negative voltages coming out of any connector :confused: They only go into the motherboard through that big ATX power cable. The normal molex connector has 12V, 0V, 0V, 5V. Besides, +12V and -5V will give you 17V!!! :P
Must learn my electronics well!these studies keep me away frm them..
Anusha
01-07-2007, 03:18 PM
MORE FANS MAKE MORE NOISE
BUT
KEEP COOL CPU AS WELL
IT IS GOOD FOR WORK WITH MANY HOURS CONTINUESLY
More fan's is not always good. It can sometimes make things hotter!!! You might not believe it, but it can happen. You shouldn't let the air pressure build inside the case. It has to flow smoothly. The best configuration is, bringing the air into the case from the inlets in the lower front, and throw it out from outlets in the upper back (near the CPU). ATX standard is designed like that. AT motherboards had the CPU in the front, lower section, and this wasn't efficient when the CPUs become hotter and hotter. So they rearranged the ATX component placement.
It's even better if you have a duct in front of the CPU to bring the cool air in with the vacuum effect of the CPU fan, and a power supply unit which will take in the hot air around the CPU into itself and throwing outside from the back (i.e. two fans).
Anusha
01-07-2007, 03:21 PM
I ADDED A FAN TO MY HDD
IT IS 300 GB SATA
IT IS TRY TO VERY HOT THEN I ADDED A FAN FOR IT
NOW IT IS COOL AS WELL
Which make and brand? I yesterday spotted in an article than Maxtor DiamondMax 10 dissipates very low power compared to all the other HDDs from other manufacturers. It was like 10W vs. 19W. Mine is a Maxtor DiamondMax 10 320GB, and I have to say, it's cooler than my 160GB Samsung! Samsung and Seagate generally make the coolest and quietest drives.
Anusha
01-07-2007, 03:23 PM
Must learn my electronics well!these studies keep me away frm them..
Yeah....:)
Don't they have Electronics as a technical subject for O/Ls anymore?
zCexVe
01-07-2007, 03:37 PM
Thats gr8 Electronics..those idiots only knw to translate english words into sinhala..
There rnt not much enthusiasts like us to learn..
u knw what they call step down tranformers..
"Avakara parinaamaka"
I told them a word starting frm "Ava.. Pa..."too..
shanX
01-07-2007, 03:38 PM
:lol:
Anusha
01-07-2007, 03:41 PM
But they can't help it. There weren't (aren't) disctinctive terms for those electronics stuff in English.
zCexVe
01-07-2007, 03:45 PM
oh u knw what they teach for GIT in O\Ls..
this is the 15th MCQ of there paper frm ma school
15th
How much data can a cd hold up?
I asked what CD(22 mins or 80 mins)no answer..
35th
How much data can a cd hold up as a multiplier of Floppys'data
7(00/1.44=486)
34th
What is the maximum FSB in a mobo now?
correct ans was 800Mhz..
fortunately i got the paper b4 print and corrected it to Intel and 1066Mhz.Then the Q was removed coz teachers dont knw about that..
19th
In what gazzette that says about pirating CDs/Softwares illegal?
ans is 14th of 1995 I think..
Remember all these r in Sinhala..
zCexVe
01-07-2007, 03:48 PM
there r more funny things like that..I dont hav the paper with me right now.If then we would laugh for a month..If i can i'll post the paper i made for taking members into ma club..[I'm the secretary thats why]
Anusha
01-07-2007, 03:48 PM
What is GIT? :confused: I don't know anything about the new syllabus. :sorry:
Anusha
01-07-2007, 03:49 PM
Just wanted to highlight a point. The maximum FSB in a desktop CPU up to now is 266MHz.
pasanlaksiri
01-07-2007, 03:52 PM
Automatically means, thermally adjusted fans? Yeah you can do that :yes:
Automatic Temperature Control Fan:lol: When System is cool ( ucan adjust temp ) fans r automatically goes off mode.:yes:
Anusha
01-07-2007, 03:54 PM
Automatic Temperature Control Fan:lol: When System is cool ( ucan adjust temp ) fans r automatically goes off mode.:yes:
Hey, we had already figured it out before you answered :P :P :P
pasanlaksiri
01-07-2007, 04:03 PM
:yes: Ultra Simple Cricuit for Automatic Fans:yes:
:yes: :yes: Very very Low cost Circuit:yes: :yes:
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/circ/auto-fan.gif
This is the actual size of the circuit
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/circ/autofanl.gif
"This circuit was designed to automatically activate a set of three or four small DC fans to cool a large cool-rib for a 10 Amp powersupply. Can be used in a variety of other applications as well."
Couple Notes:
Th1, the 50K thermistor, is a standard type. Mine was a bar or rectangular looking thingy. Available from Tandy/Radio-Shack. Almost any type will do. I experimented with different models from 22K to 100K and all worked fine after replacing the trimmer pot.
The one used in the above circuit diagram was a 50K model made by Fenwal (#197-503LAG-A01). This 50K was measured at exactly 25 °C and with 10% tolerance. The resistance increases as the surrounding temperature decreases. Tolerance for my application (cooling a large powersupply coolrib) is 10%. Another name for this thing is 'NTC'. NTC stands for "Negative Temperature Coefficient" which means when the surrounding temperature decreases the resistance of this thermistor will increase. You may have to shop around to get the cheapest price. Some thermistors can be had for as little as $4.00 but as much as $55.00 Canadian currency for the glass encapsulated type (the best).
I replaced my thermistor for a 60K hermetically sealed glass type since the environment for my application may contain corrosive particles which may affect performance on a future date.
P1 is a regular Bourns trimmer potentiometer and adjusts a wide range of temperatures for this circuit. I used the 10-turn type for a bit finer adjustment but the regular type may work for your application.
R1 is a 'security' resistor just in case the trimmer pot P1 is adjusted all the way to '0' ohms. At which time the thermistor would get the full 12 volt and it will get so hot that it puts blisters on your fingers... :-)
R3 feeds a bit of hysteresis back into the op-amp to eliminate relay 'chatter' when the temperature of the thermistor reaches its threshold point. Depending on your application and the type you use for Q1 and Re1, start with 330K or so and adjust its value downwards until your satisfied. The value of 150K shown in the diagram worked for me. Decreasing the value of R2 means more hysteresis, just don't use more then necessary. Or temporarily use a trimmer pot and read off the value. 120K worked for me.
Transistor Q1 can be a 2N2222(A), 2N3904, NTE123A, ECG123A, etc. Not critical at all. It acts only as a switch for the relay so almost any type will work, as long as it can provide the current needed to activate the relay's coil.
D1, the 1N4148, acts as a spark arrestor when the contacts of the relay open and eliminates false triggering. For my application the 1N4148 was good enough since the tiny relay I used was only 1 amp. However, you can use a large variety of diodes here, my next choice would be a regular purpose 1N4001 or something and should be used if your relay type can handle more then 1 amp.
If you like to make your own pcb, try the one below. The pcb is fitted with holes for the relay but may not fit your particular relay. It was designed for a Aromat HB1-DC12V type. The variety and model of relays is just to great. How to mount it then? Well, I left ample space on the pcb to mount your relay. You can even mount it up-side-down and connect the wires individually. Use Silicon glue, cyanoacrylate ester (crazy glue), or double-sided tape to hold the relay in place. Works well. Note that the pcb and layout is not according to the circuit diagram in regards to the hookup of the fans. The PCB measures approximately 1.5 x 3 inches (4.8 x 7.6mm)
If you print the pcb to an inkjet printer it is probably not to scale. Try to fit a 8-pin ic socket on the printed copy to make sure it fits before making the pcb...
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/circ/autofanp.gif
More Info Go Here >>> http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/circ/auto-fan.html
Anusha
01-07-2007, 04:06 PM
That circuit is simple, yeash, but it will drive zCexVe away to retail stuff. The ones I gave were much, much simpler.
pasanlaksiri
01-07-2007, 04:09 PM
That circuit is simple, yeash, but it will drive zCexVe away to retail stuff. The ones I gave were much, much simpler.
Yep. Mmmm balamu hadala:D
Anusha
01-07-2007, 04:12 PM
Yep. Mmmm balamu hadala:D
Balamu balamu. :yes: :yes:
zCexVe
01-09-2007, 12:38 AM
Hadala balanna oya keli hoyaganna eka thama prashne.Athe sallith ne me davasvala...
Anusha
01-09-2007, 06:06 AM
Hadala balanna oya keli hoyaganna eka thama prashne.Athe sallith ne me davasvala...
Those parts are easy to find, and cheap!
pasanlaksiri
01-09-2007, 06:29 AM
Those parts are easy to find, and cheap!
Do u have 100 bucks ( less than 100 ) ? Ah its enoughf to make that Anusha's CCT:yes: :D
themera
01-09-2007, 08:10 AM
i have 4 fans i fink
dunits
01-09-2007, 08:30 AM
only 2 :(
only 2 :(
Ube eke 3k thiyenawane...
power supply unit eke hari video card eke fan eka amathaka wunada? :lol: :lol:
Anusha
01-09-2007, 09:11 AM
Ube eke 3k thiyenawane...
power supply unit eke hari video card eke fan eka amathaka wunada? :lol: :lol:
Have you seen his PC?
There are some PCs which don't have a single FAN!!!
Have you seen his PC?
yep :yes: :yes: :lol:
Anusha
01-09-2007, 09:18 AM
yep :yes: :yes: :lol:
dunits is busted! :D :lol: :lol:
pasanlaksiri
01-09-2007, 12:42 PM
yep :yes: :yes: :lol:
Ube brain eketh main processor eke fan ekak thiyenawaneda. Ekathama uba nikan inna kota podi noise ekak enne:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Ube brain eketh main processor eke fan ekak thiyenawaneda. Ekathama uba nikan inna kota podi noise ekak enne:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Mage molen "noise" enawa?? :eek: :lol: :lol: :lol:
shanX
01-09-2007, 10:18 PM
Mage molen "noise" enawa??nut ekak loose wenta athi :lol:
zCexVe
01-09-2007, 11:33 PM
ekak witharada?:lol:
Machan la nathi nut wuth athi karanawa wage :rolleyes: :lol: :lol:
zCexVe
01-10-2007, 12:06 AM
Ai nut nethuva bolt vitharada thiyenne:lol: :lol:
shanX
01-10-2007, 10:18 AM
Ai nut nethuva bolt vitharada thiyenne
Hebey mata sure, oyata nang screws nae
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ;)
zCexVe
01-10-2007, 09:15 PM
Hebey mata sure, oyata nang screws nae
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ;)
Umbata divas thiyenavada mage eeva balanna.
zCexVe
01-10-2007, 09:17 PM
Do u have 100 bucks ( less than 100 ) ? Ah its enoughf to make that Anusha's CCT:yes: :D
Anushage ara dot board eke thiyena circuit eke NTC thermitor 1 nethuva 58k giya.
Galle vala kohevath eka nehe.Kada 9ka check kala.PTC nam 1k thibuna.
Anek eke VR IC eka hoyanna amarui..
pasanlaksiri
01-12-2007, 11:05 PM
Anushage ara dot board eke thiyena circuit eke NTC thermitor 1 nethuva 58k giya.
Galle vala kohevath eka nehe.Kada 9ka check kala.PTC nam 1k thibuna.
Anek eke VR IC eka hoyanna amarui..
Machan mama ada badu tika gatha. But values nam tikak venas but upset ekak naha. Mama thama haduwe naha
1) IRFZ44n
2) 100ohm and 3.3kohm Thermisters
3) 50Kohm Preset
pasanlaksiri
01-13-2007, 11:49 AM
http://www.heatsink-guide.com/control.gif
http://www.heatsink-guide.com/control-front.jpg
Hey friends this Anusha's CCT is working more than perfectly. Fans r vary its speeds like processor fan. And that circut is vary very smoothly.
U dont want any electronic knowledge to make this cct.
I use these parts to make this cct.
1) IRFZ44N ( Normally we cald FET. And that last N means N channel )
2) 3.3k thermister with 2.2K resister ( Couz 10K thermister eka hoyaganna bariuna nisa )
3) 10K preset
TRY IT. And Reduce ur fans noise:yes: :yes: :D :D :D
I'll upload some pics latter:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
shanX
01-13-2007, 12:10 PM
U dont want any electronic knowledge to make this cct.
Then tell exactly step by step how to :yes:
zCexVe
01-13-2007, 09:16 PM
Macho colombo valin parts tika ganna thenak kiyanna.Mehe parts thama neththe..
pasanlaksiri
01-13-2007, 09:51 PM
Macho colombo valin parts tika ganna thenak kiyanna.Mehe parts thama neththe..
Machan 1st cross street eke Vicrama Plaza kiyala Building ekak thiyenawa. Eke DIGITAL Electronic kiyala shop ekak thiyenawa. Minihagawa godak parts thiyenawa
zCexVe
01-13-2007, 10:16 PM
thanx macho.ehenam mam oya hadapu circuit eka hadanna ona..
pasanlaksiri
01-14-2007, 12:31 AM
thanx macho.ehenam mam oya hadapu circuit eka hadanna ona..
Eka ela. Mage PC eke fans 2kata Circuit 2k dala thiyenne. Ewa elata wada:yes:
chaminga_d
01-14-2007, 10:26 AM
use water cooling system... it will be better than fan cooling....
Anusha
01-14-2007, 11:09 AM
use water cooling system... it will be better than fan cooling....
Really? A tiny leak and bye bye!
chaminga_d
01-14-2007, 11:49 AM
Really? A tiny leak and bye bye!
dont produce rats inside your system unit....
chaminga_d
01-14-2007, 11:50 AM
Really? A tiny leak and bye bye!
Then dont bite it's pips your self...
Anusha
01-14-2007, 11:53 AM
:P :P :P
Anyways, the only advantages a water cooling system has over a good air cooler is the noiselessness.
chaminga_d
01-14-2007, 12:03 PM
stupid person....
chaminga_d
01-14-2007, 12:04 PM
Nobody has ever doubted the advantages of water cooling as compared to air. Water is some twenty five times more efficient than air at conducting heat, which makes it an obvious choice for cooling all manner of hot running computer components.
chaminga_d
01-14-2007, 12:05 PM
Unfortunately it also comes with several disadvantages too.
pasanlaksiri
01-14-2007, 05:24 PM
Nobody has ever doubted the advantages of water cooling as compared to air. Water is some twenty five times more efficient than air at conducting heat, which makes it an obvious choice for cooling all manner of hot running computer components.
Yes machan. PC walata witharak nemei Watter cooling set karanne. Samahara Hi Power Out thiyena transmitters walatath watter cooling danawa. They use Special liquid. Mama ehema ekak dakala thiyenawa swarna wahinee eke athuledi
zCexVe
01-14-2007, 05:50 PM
Too for about 3000W amplifiers like things..
BTW there was a guy in SL who produced a cheap and gr8 watercooling system which costed around 2500Rs. at that time in 2005 who won a runnerup or winner in a foreign competition for new inventions told that he will produce it to market with some alliance with a company in a 6~12 months time but I never heard of him after that which is very unlucky of us coz if it has been active,we would never run hot.
Sorry 4 the very long sentence.I'm used to them.
zCexVe
01-14-2007, 05:53 PM
Pasan did u fix the resistor with the thermistor?does thermistors have N/P poles?
what about that tiny heat sensors comes with Mobos located in the middle of some processor sockets? (formerly ZIP sockets?)
Anusha
01-14-2007, 06:15 PM
Pasan did u fix the resistor with the thermistor?does thermistors have N/P poles?
what about that tiny heat sensors comes with Mobos located in the middle of ZIP sockets?
I think there are both unipolar and bipolar thermisters. Haven't used them in any circuit, so I have no idea at the moment. But looking at the circuit diagram, it looks as if they are unipolar ones as the cheaper ones are resisters which chance their resistive properties according to temperature.
Dunno anything about how those motherboard heatsensors work.
BTW, that's ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) socket, not ZIP (if it wasn't a typographical error).
zCexVe
01-14-2007, 06:39 PM
sorry buddy i was in a hurry.helping mom,typing posts ,helping dad etc etc...
I'll correct that,and now i realized that not all zif sockets have a hole in the middle[Like socket 939]..
chaminga_d
01-14-2007, 06:49 PM
sorry buddy i was in a hurry.helping mom,typing posts ,helping dad etc etc...
Oh... zCexVe your big boy party....
zCexVe
01-14-2007, 07:11 PM
I have told you once.That party is not big boy, girl , man..alright?
It is called puberty or attain party..And remember,ur 18th will be 20 days frm 2day.I'm waiting 4 it..............
pasanlaksiri
01-14-2007, 08:06 PM
Pasan did u fix the resistor with the thermistor?does thermistors have N/P poles?
what about that tiny heat sensors comes with Mobos located in the middle of some processor sockets? (formerly ZIP sockets?)
No man. Thermister is also a kind of RESISTOR:yes:
zCexVe
01-14-2007, 08:27 PM
no no.. the 100 ohm one..Is it a thermister too?
zCexVe
01-14-2007, 08:28 PM
Then pls post ur circuit diagram...I'm confused now..
Anusha
01-14-2007, 08:53 PM
Aren't we talking about the one given in the 144th post?
pasanlaksiri
01-14-2007, 09:28 PM
Then pls post ur circuit diagram...I'm confused now..
http://www.heatsink-guide.com/control.gif
Mekedi mama use kare 3.3Kohm Thermister, IRFZ44N , 1K preset.
Values tikak wenas unata upset ekak naha
Hey, tell me how cud we hav the bios show our system fan speed??? or wts the system fan? :confused:
PSU Fan
CPU Fan
(My past MBoard had only 1 Fan for PSU)
Anusha
01-14-2007, 09:38 PM
PSU Fan
CPU Fan
(My past MBoard had only 1 Fan for PSU)
PSU fan eka motherboard eken nemei weda karanne. :confused: :confused:
Oh! ShanX I'm Sorry machan.
I've replied with the Quote of your Post...
PSU fan eka motherboard eken nemei weda karanne. :confused: :confused:
Ehenam???
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Are you අනූෂ*or අනූෂා ?
Can U see above letters?
pasanlaksiri
01-14-2007, 09:59 PM
Ehenam???
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Are you අනූෂ*or අනූෂා ?
Can U see above letters?
Machan Uba ANUSHA or ANUSHAAAA da?:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Anusha
01-14-2007, 10:07 PM
Ehenam???
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Are you අනූෂ*or අනූෂා ?
Can U see above letters?
:angry: :angry: :angry: Of course I can see them. Take a guess...
Oops!
You've got wrong.
I meant not M/B.
I had IBM Mother Board. when it was working I had one fan...
It's only PSU Fan.
But I lost that M/Board because of some Circuit problems.
Now I have GigaByte M/Board with same Hardwares.
But the new M/Board doesn't fit 100% for my Casing.
So I put a new Fan...
then Now I have got 2 Fans...
Anusha
01-14-2007, 10:13 PM
But the new M/Board doesn't fit 100% for my Casing.
So I put a new Fan...
then Now I have got 2 Fans...
What do you mean by, But the new M/Board doesn't fit 100% for my Casing? And what's connection between that and the fan?
zCexVe
01-14-2007, 10:25 PM
IBM casings r made for their mobos so its very hard to put another one ,actually a common vendors' one ,in it.U can see the trouble by buying a HP casing that r everywhere in gov offices and schools.Ur ATX PSU wont fit in there.U hav to cut the casing..
And if u use a IBM PI or PII u r right.Some of them had PSU fan frm the Mobo it self with heat monitoring..Kindda weird.Nowadays it is done by the PSU it self.At least mine.
zCexVe
01-14-2007, 10:26 PM
Mekedi mama use kare 3.3Kohm Thermister, IRFZ44N , 1K preset.
Values tikak wenas unata upset ekak naha
thanx macho,now I'm ok with it..
Anusha
01-14-2007, 10:29 PM
IBM casings r made for their mobos so its very hard to put another one ,actually a common vendors' one ,in it.U can see the trouble by buying a HP casing that r everywhere in gov offices and schools.Ur ATX PSU wont fit in there.U hav to cut the casing..
And if u use a IBM PI or PII u r right.Some of them had PSU fan frm the Mobo it self with heat monitoring..Kindda weird.Nowadays it is done by the PSU it self.At least mine.
Not even my old Pentium1's PSU got the power through the motherboard.
pasanlaksiri
01-14-2007, 10:34 PM
Not even my old Pentium1's PSU got the power through the motherboard.
yes:yes:
zCexVe
01-14-2007, 11:08 PM
Not even my old Pentium1's PSU got the power through the motherboard.
Now dont think I had one.@ ma frnds shop he repairs all kinds of PCs.So second-hand imported DELL,IBM,HP,Micron u name it evrything comes there.
I saw two of this kind which came about 7-8 months ago.It had 3 fan jacks all with sensors.PSU,CPU,Casing.
There was another IBM or DELL one with a weird rectangle blackish brown thing connected to the power button in one PC.It was a P2..Two wires connected.corners r round.We never figured out what it do.
Anybody know of this thing?
What do you mean by, But the new M/Board doesn't fit 100% for my Casing? And what's connection between that and the fan?
Oh No!!!!
Mage Mother Board eka Pichchuna. Ithin mama wena Board ekak demma.
aluth board eka demme parana parts tika ekka (including my Casing)...
Kalin 1 Fan ekai thibbe. eka PSU fan eka. But Processor eka langin thibbe. So CPU ekata wenama Fan ekak one une nehe.
Bt aluth widihata Processor eka PSU eka gawatama set wenne nehe. ithin mama Heat Sink ekath ekka thiyena aluth Fan ekak demma...:lol: :lol: :lol:
Anusha
01-15-2007, 06:45 AM
Now dont think I had one.@ ma frnds shop he repairs all kinds of PCs.So second-hand imported DELL,IBM,HP,Micron u name it evrything comes there.
I saw two of this kind which came about 7-8 months ago.It had 3 fan jacks all with sensors.PSU,CPU,Casing.
There was another IBM or DELL one with a weird rectangle blackish brown thing connected to the power button in one PC.It was a P2..Two wires connected.corners r round.We never figured out what it do.
Anybody know of this thing?
Could be a lock.
මම කියපු ඒක තේරුනාදෝ......????
Anusha
01-15-2007, 06:55 AM
What is your CPU btw?
What is your CPU btw?
Just Pentium III... 800MHz:eek: :eek: :eek:
Anusha
01-15-2007, 08:01 AM
Just Pentium III... 800MHz:eek: :eek: :eek:
And it didn't require a cooler????
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