Killing Animals and HALAL

[rapa]

In Buddhism, killing a living being is always considered to be a sin as we have no right to take some other living creature's life. But as I can see in other religions there are variations for this.

Muslims do believe in animal welfare "Whoever is kind to the creatures of God is kind to himself" (Wisdom of Prophet Mohammad; Muhammad Amin; The Lion Press, Lahore, Pakistan; 1945)

They have regulations in meat. But... He hath forbidden you only carrion and blood and swine flesh and that which hath been immolated to any other than Allah.. (Quran Chapter II , Verse 173) The prophet has forbidden flesh only if it is not a sacrifice for himself. Does that mean he always expect sacrifices from men?.NO. Obviously he can't be that much cruel to accept meat from billions of people per day!.

That sacrifice ritual is called HALAL ( correct me if i am wrong ). As I know the original ritual of killing an animal is, the killer should be on a plate which is heated to become red and kill the animal. That ritual make sense, as no one would do such a commitment to kill another. So, he meant not to kill ( in an implicit way ). But the time has changed, you wouldn't believe how the ritual carried out now. They use a red colored plate as the seat when killing animals. You really can't symbolize a ritual in that way. But they perform other ritual there. That is never show the weapon to the animal before being killed :).

The religion should sometimes be adapted to the current society , but not in a selfish manner like this. I don't think this post would hurt Muslims ( as I didn't criticize holy prophet ) . This is what I see as truth. Always open for debate.

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http://thripitaka.blogspot.com/2006/12/killing-animals-and-halal.html

[lakmal4u]

Always open for debate.
:confused: :confused: :confused:

[Tissaka]

machan.. pravesamen.. :yes: prashnekata mula piruwa wage wei :rolleyes: :(

[lakmal4u]

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[lakmal4u]

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[Wal Bada]

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Mama hithanne elakiri kattiyage umba gana aakalpaya ooka thama!:angry:

[sridanu]

:eek:

[MCLINER]

:eek::shocked::confused:

[crazy_m]

:shocked: :eek: :oo::baffled:

[sridanu]

Ive herd about this. But wen i askd abot this frm a Muslim frend he told me that it wasnt true. Meaning HALAL doesnt mean standing on top of a Heated plate ect...

[MCLINER]

Ive herd about this. But wen i askd abot this frm a Muslim frend he told me that it wasnt true. Meaning HALAL doesnt mean standing on top of a Heated plate ect...
den wat ?

[sridanu]

den wat ?

den nothing. end of story. Obviosly he knows about his religion mo than i do.

[udaraumd]

But the time has changed, you wouldn't believe how the ritual carried out now. They use a red colored plate as the seat when killing animals. You really can't symbolize a ritual in that way. But they perform other ritual there. That is never show the weapon to the animal before being killed .

Wowwww............ this is really funny................ :lol: :lol: :lol: what a replacement ? :lol: :lol:

[life]

Minissunta ona widiyata agamath wenas karagenada dan? :(

[udaraumd]

den nothing. end of story. Obviosly he knows about his religion mo than i do.
yeahhhhhh.......... me too have heard !!! there's something more than that.......... :yes:

[udaraumd]

Minissunta ona widiyata agamath wenas karagenada dan? :(

minissu hada gaththa agama minissunma wenas kara ganna eka ahanndath deyakda bun ? :D :D :D :D :D :D

[life]

Agam hadana ayayi ewa thamanta ona hatiyata wenas karaganna minissunui athara thiyena wenas kamawath therenne nadda ubata?minissu hada gaththa agama minissunma wenas kara ganna eka ahanndath deyakda bun ? :D :D :D :D :D :D

[udaraumd]

Agam hadana ayayi ewa thamanta ona hatiyata wenas karaganna minissunui athara thiyena wenas kamawath therenne nadda ubata?
Okkoma minissune bun ???? ithin ai oya tika wath therum ganna bari une oya aagam hadapu euntai wenas karana euntai....... ???

[cj_sniper]

http://mayang.com/textures/Architectural/html/Signs/no_dogs_sign_1011395.JPG

whts dis........explain..............

[malkavi]

Mmath meka ahuwa mage yaluwekugen...Eya mata kiwwe....Holy kuran eke ehema kiyala nahallu..hbai agmama gena hondata hoyala blana aya...(ape soma hamuduruwo wage..) aya kiyanawalu ehma kathawak thiyenawa kiyala...Eya kiyanne ape budhdhagameth eka eka matha thiyenawane...ae wage ae agameth ae wage matha thiyenawalu...habai ae aya piliganne /holy kuran eke thiyena ewalu......

Thawa ekkenekuge ahuwahama eya me kathawa eka paratama piligaththa.....eka nisa meka hariyatama kiyanna amarui....

[malkavi]

Kattiyama poddak meke date eka balanna.....Meka parana eka.....Kagewath comments nethuwa yata giya ekak.....

Kawuda me lakmal4u kiyanne....mu hadanne case adinna.....RAPA ekka mokadda muge thiyena tharaha....mu hadanne rapawa sawuththu karanna.....meetaa kalinuth mu gon katha kiwwa....muta one methana jathi bebde awussanna........Parissam wenna.....

[gazaly]

That sacrifice ritual is called HALAL ( correct me if i am wrong ).
Halal (حلال, ḥalāl, halaal) is an Arabic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language) term meaning "permissible". In the English language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language) it most frequently refers to food (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food) that is permissible according to Islamic law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_law). In the Arabic language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language) it refers to anything that is permissible under Islam..

[amilajohn]

interesting in4. want more. bcoz mamath oya gana hoya hoya hitiye detail.:yes: :yes: :yes:

[amilajohn]

Halal (حلال, ḥalāl, halaal) is an Arabic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language) term meaning "permissible". In the English language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_language) it most frequently refers to food (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food) that is permissible according to Islamic law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_law). In the Arabic language (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_language) it refers to anything that is permissible under Islam..


ya macho.:yes: :yes: :yes:
I think Halal is good & Haram is bad :confused: :confused: :confused:

[Mjr.DzAzTr]

Why Mock Islam?


Because it is therapeutic! Mocking is a very powerful way to convince those who are unwilling to think to do it. Shame is a great motivator.

Muhammad suffered from malignant narcissistic personality disorder. His followers, to the degree that they emulate him, think like him and try to behave like him, have entered into his narcissistic bubble universe and have become narcissists by extension. This happens to all cultists. In all cults, the insanity of the guru reflects on the followers who surrender their intelligence to him and follow him unquestioningly and brainlessly.

The narcissists feel grandiose and self-important. They want to be acknowledged without commensurate merit. They want recognition and preferential treatment. They expect respect without feeling any obligation to reciprocate. They get their sense of self- importance by putting you down, criticizing you, decrying your world and disparaging your values, but you are not allowed to slight them. It is okay for them to violate your rights, abuse you and even kill you, but you are not supposed to mistreat them in the slightest way. In fact, they demand privileges that are not available to others. What they want is your submission. That is what Islam is all about – submission.

Never comply

The narcissists are bullies. They should not get what they want or they become emboldened and demand more. They will never be satisfied. The more you give in, the more demanding they become. They can never have enough narcissistic supplies. It is a mistake to give in to their caprices and comply with their demands.

The narcissist takes himself too seriously. He lacks self-esteem and what he dreads most is humiliation. For him, image is everything. He attacks you, verbally, physically, or both. He highlights your faults and belittles you. By doing so he feels better about his own failures. He hides behind a false image of self righteousness. That image must be destroyed and the way to do that is through ridicule.

Charlie Chaplin knew the great power of ridicule. A strong opponent of racism, in 1937 Chaplin decided to make a film on the dangers of fascism. As Chaplin pointed out in his autobiography, attempts were made to stop the film being made: "Half-way through making The Great Dictator I began receiving alarming messages from United Artists. They had been advised by the Hays Office that I would run into censorship trouble. Also the English office was very concerned about an anti-Hitler picture and doubted whether it could be shown in Britain . But I was determined to go ahead, for Hitler must be laughed at." (Charles Chaplin, My Autobiography- 1964)

Just like in the thirties, today there are many useful idiots who defend Islam, apply censorship and try to silence its critics. These fools must be put to shame too.

Do not underestimate the power of ridicule. This is not a laughing matter. Mock Muhammad and Islam as this will eventually help the Muslims get rid of their cult. They must feel embarrassed for calling themselves Muslim.

This therapy works. I have seen it work many times. Intelligent people, who at first defend Islam, feel embarrassed to be called Muslims, once they see the stupidity of this cult, and claim they are not Muslims. They try to dissociate themselves from it. At first this distancing may not be heartfelt, but the very fact that they prefer to hide their real sentiment about Islam because they are embarrassed of it is the first step -a very important one - for them to leave Islam in reality. It is just a matter of time that they cut their umbilical cords from it and get rid of this cult completely.

Today Muslims become angry if you ridicule their faith, but once they are free from this bondage of the mind they will thank you for it.

Ridicule Islam and ridicule those who defend it. Put to shame the appeasers and the useful idiots even if their name is Charles Windsor or Bill Clinton. Expose the stupidity of Islam and laugh at its ignorant supporters.

Islam will become history once the asininity of it becomes so obvious that any person with intelligence feels embarrassed associating himself with it or defending it.

In not a very distant future, calling a person "Muslim" will be seen as an insult and one could be seriously offended if he is called that, just as today one is offended if he is called a "Nazi".



These pages mirror Dr. Aziz's superb comic book on Muhammad. You can order this hilarious book from here.

This booklet is priceless but it costs only $3.95. It makes a great gift, especially now that everyone wonders what is up with Islam. Buy several of them and give them to your friends. They will laugh their heads off. That is the best way to get rid of Islam. Devil cannot stand to be mocked. So destroy him with ridicule.

The book is based on the sayings of Muhammad in the Quran and the hadith. It is all "facts" - believe it or not! You can preview these cartoons in this site.

Muslims boycotted Denmark for reproducing the cartoons of Muhammad. If they are offended by those cartoons, what would they say of these? Forward the link to them and find out.


footnote: this is not something I've created. This is something I've found on www.faithfreedom.org
If there is any inaccuracy in what is said about the holy Islamic scripture please let me know. If you think this is very inaccurate you can debate on the matter with Ali Sinha himself at www.faithfreedom.org as some have done on the debates forum www.faithfreedom.org/debates.

[amilajohn]

Why Mock Islam?


Because it is therapeutic! Mocking is a very powerful way to convince those who are unwilling to think to do it. Shame is a great motivator.

Muhammad suffered from malignant narcissistic personality disorder. His followers, to the degree that they emulate him, think like him and try to behave like him, have entered into his narcissistic bubble universe and have become narcissists by extension. This happens to all cultists. In all cults, the insanity of the guru reflects on the followers who surrender their intelligence to him and follow him unquestioningly and brainlessly.

The narcissists feel grandiose and self-important. They want to be acknowledged without commensurate merit. They want recognition and preferential treatment. They expect respect without feeling any obligation to reciprocate. They get their sense of self- importance by putting you down, criticizing you, decrying your world and disparaging your values, but you are not allowed to slight them. It is okay for them to violate your rights, abuse you and even kill you, but you are not supposed to mistreat them in the slightest way. In fact, they demand privileges that are not available to others. What they want is your submission. That is what Islam is all about – submission.

Never comply

The narcissists are bullies. They should not get what they want or they become emboldened and demand more. They will never be satisfied. The more you give in, the more demanding they become. They can never have enough narcissistic supplies. It is a mistake to give in to their caprices and comply with their demands.

The narcissist takes himself too seriously. He lacks self-esteem and what he dreads most is humiliation. For him, image is everything. He attacks you, verbally, physically, or both. He highlights your faults and belittles you. By doing so he feels better about his own failures. He hides behind a false image of self righteousness. That image must be destroyed and the way to do that is through ridicule.

Charlie Chaplin knew the great power of ridicule. A strong opponent of racism, in 1937 Chaplin decided to make a film on the dangers of fascism. As Chaplin pointed out in his autobiography, attempts were made to stop the film being made: "Half-way through making The Great Dictator I began receiving alarming messages from United Artists. They had been advised by the Hays Office that I would run into censorship trouble. Also the English office was very concerned about an anti-Hitler picture and doubted whether it could be shown in Britain . But I was determined to go ahead, for Hitler must be laughed at." (Charles Chaplin, My Autobiography- 1964)

Just like in the thirties, today there are many useful idiots who defend Islam, apply censorship and try to silence its critics. These fools must be put to shame too.

Do not underestimate the power of ridicule. This is not a laughing matter. Mock Muhammad and Islam as this will eventually help the Muslims get rid of their cult. They must feel embarrassed for calling themselves Muslim.

This therapy works. I have seen it work many times. Intelligent people, who at first defend Islam, feel embarrassed to be called Muslims, once they see the stupidity of this cult, and claim they are not Muslims. They try to dissociate themselves from it. At first this distancing may not be heartfelt, but the very fact that they prefer to hide their real sentiment about Islam because they are embarrassed of it is the first step -a very important one - for them to leave Islam in reality. It is just a matter of time that they cut their umbilical cords from it and get rid of this cult completely.

Today Muslims become angry if you ridicule their faith, but once they are free from this bondage of the mind they will thank you for it.

Ridicule Islam and ridicule those who defend it. Put to shame the appeasers and the useful idiots even if their name is Charles Windsor or Bill Clinton. Expose the stupidity of Islam and laugh at its ignorant supporters.

Islam will become history once the asininity of it becomes so obvious that any person with intelligence feels embarrassed associating himself with it or defending it.

In not a very distant future, calling a person "Muslim" will be seen as an insult and one could be seriously offended if he is called that, just as today one is offended if he is called a "Nazi".



These pages mirror Dr. Aziz's superb comic book on Muhammad. You can order this hilarious book from here.

This booklet is priceless but it costs only $3.95. It makes a great gift, especially now that everyone wonders what is up with Islam. Buy several of them and give them to your friends. They will laugh their heads off. That is the best way to get rid of Islam. Devil cannot stand to be mocked. So destroy him with ridicule.

The book is based on the sayings of Muhammad in the Quran and the hadith. It is all "facts" - believe it or not! You can preview these cartoons in this site.

Muslims boycotted Denmark for reproducing the cartoons of Muhammad. If they are offended by those cartoons, what would they say of these? Forward the link to them and find out.


footnote: this is not something I've created. This is something I've found on www.faithfreedom.org
If there is any inaccuracy in what is said about the holy Islamic scripture please let me know. If you think this is very inaccurate you can debate on the matter with Ali Sinha himself at www.faithfreedom.org as some have done on the debates forum www.faithfreedom.org/debates.


:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

[fazaal24]

Ive herd about this. But wen i askd abot this frm a Muslim frend he told me that it wasnt true. Meaning HALAL doesnt mean standing on top of a Heated plate ect...

Yes itz wrong......it is sAID BY SOME PPL against our prophet......(muslims against our prophet):yes:

[shanX]

They use a red colored plate as the seat when killing animals.

Is a total rubbish :yes:

And pls Rapa you better stop posting this kind of topics :)

[fazaal24]

Is a total rubbish :yes:

And pls Rapa you better stop posting this kind of topics :)

yeah..plz.....it can harm ppl:(

[sandu_ls]

:no: :no: :no: :no: :no: :no:

[Wal Bada]

Is a total rubbish :yes:

And pls Rapa you better stop posting this kind of topics :)
:growl: :growl: :growl: :growl:
Here comes the attitude la la la la laa . . . .
Go and post in forums of Disneyland. This is for gron ups and people who wnat to grow up. Not for big babies.

[amilajohn]

:growl: :growl: :growl: :growl:
Here comes the attitude la la la la laa . . . .
Go and post in forums of Disneyland. This is for gron ups and people who wnat to grow up. Not for big babies.


:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

[shanX]

:growl: :growl: :growl: :growl:
Here comes the attitude la la la la laa . . . .
Go and post in forums of Disneyland. This is for gron ups and people who wnat to grow up. Not for big babies.
Yes Mr.Grownup, Where can I find the forum of Disneyland??? :D http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1658/hapfac01tj1.gif

[shanX]

:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
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[amilajohn]

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mokada umbata 1parata une?

[madurax86]

Buddhism has sum of deese glitches too, it's said dat trees n animals r living things..although trees do not show their actions as fast as animals they do act according to da situation(growin towards da sunlight)..anyway dey do feel everything but we do not see dat. Its da other way around for animals. Animals cry, scream n act accordin to a situation more quickly(than trees)..

so dey say eatin meat is a sin..den whts eatin leaves of trees?? n other stuf frm them??(im not considerin to stuf like eatin apples coz it isnt a sin coz its a way of spreadin seeds)..SO r we left to eat nothin??...........in conclusion i say that "da weeaker bcomes da da stronger's food"---its da way dat da world goes...but in straight talk growin and killin has its own side effects

[madurax86]

-- lord Buddha only answered da questions dat were raised those days...may b this q wasnt raised by da ppl hu lived then, nyway accordin to ma knowledge i dont knw da exact answer for this ...

[Wal Bada]

Yes Mr.Grownup, Where can I find the forum of Disneyland??? :D http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1658/hapfac01tj1.gifAhh, I just could forgot that you lack the basic intellect to go to Yahoo.com and type in the key words!:eek: :eek:

[Wal Bada]

Buddhism has sum of deese glitches too, it's said dat trees n animals r living things..although trees do not show their actions as fast as animals they do act according to da situation(growin towards da sunlight)..anyway dey do feel everything but we do not see dat. Its da other way around for animals. Animals cry, scream n act accordin to a situation more quickly(than trees)..

so dey say eatin meat is a sin..den whts eatin leaves of trees?? n other stuf frm them??(im not considerin to stuf like eatin apples coz it isnt a sin coz its a way of spreadin seeds)..SO r we left to eat nothin??...........in conclusion i say that "da weeaker bcomes da da stronger's food"---its da way dat da world goes...but in straight talk growin and killin has its own side effectsAccording to Buddhism there should be five things to complete teh sin of killing

1. Know that the thing has life
2. The will for killing
3. Planning a method to kill
4. Implementation of the method
5. Killing the animal.

According to Buddha, only animals have a Vingnana. The differentiation between trees and animals don't necesarily be the same among Buddhism and Science. So condition number 5 can occur only in an animal because killing is regarded as detaching Vingnana from the physical body.

[madurax86]

k aite. but i do hav this simple thingy for ya
in da older days ...dere were more trees n less animals
now its more animals less trees...can dis b a sumthin like,

no. of animals + no. of trees = constant??
..i dont no...

[madurax86]

n dere is a sayin among village ppl;(i once saw it on a short story book) ...dat lord buddha said to monks not to break leaves frm trees.. i dont knw for sure tho

[shanX]

Ahh, I just could forgot that you lack the basic intellect to go to Yahoo.com and type in the key words!:eek: :eek:
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1658/hapfac01tj1.gif Yeah Thnx Mr.GrownuP http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/1658/hapfac01tj1.gif

[Wal Bada]

n dere is a sayin among village ppl;(i once saw it on a short story book) ...dat lord buddha said to monks not to break leaves frm trees.. i dont knw for sure thoThe monks are not adviced to break leaves off trees as it was regarded as in appropriate in the time of Buddha. It causes a monk a "awatha" repeated such acts could lead to explusion from the sangha society.

[nvidura]

:growl: :growl:

[Heshanck93]

i think killing animals in any religion is bad

[GNS]

:rolleyes:

[shanX]

:lol: nice thread bump :P

[gazaly]

Hello,
I would like to bring to your notice some factual errors in this post.

Firstly it says, "The prophet has forbidden flesh only if it is not a sacrifice for himself. Does that mean he always expect sacrifices from men?.NO. Obviously he can't be that much cruel to accept meat from billions of people per day!."

Correct me if I am wrong but this statement implies that Muslims kill animals as a sacrifice for Muhammad! This gives me the feeling that the writer of this post is ignorant of Islam. FYI - prophet Muhammad is just a human being like you and me. God ('Allah' in Arabic) choose Muhammad as a messenger (prophet) to mankind to guide them in the correct path for our benefit in this world and the hereafter.

And this path (Islam) allows us to kill animals for our benefit in this world and hereafter. In Islam killing a animal is not a sin provided you have a good reason. We our allowed to kill animals for 1) for Food, 2) as a sacrifice to God, 3) for protection (e.g. like killing a snake) I don't need to explain about killing animals for food or protection but I'll expound about sacrificing animals.

You may already know that Muslims sacrifice animals on occasions like Haj festival or when a new baby is born etc. If a animal is killed as a sacrifice that should only be in the name of God not for any human being or anything else. And also God is not in need of our sacrifices like this article tries to imply. A animal sacrifice is done only as an act of worship through which the person/s sacrificing the animal intends to seek God's pleasure and gain good deeds for them. (note: What matters here is the intention. You can eat the meat of the sacrificed animal just like you would if you had killed it for food but it is encouraged to be distributed among the poor and needy.)

And what is this rot about Halal procedure that a plate needs to be heated etc. etc. Halal means anything that is permissible for a Muslim to consume or use be it clothing, employment etc. not only meat or flesh.

In the natural state meat or animal flesh is not Halal. If a Muslim wishes to eat meat it should be made Halal (i.e. lawful) through a simple ritual. This ritual requires that you kill the animal by cutting its throat and when cutting you invoke God. (you invoke God by saying "Bismillahi Allahu Akbar"). After this ritual the meat is Halal and you can consume it.

Also you must remember that only a few animals are Halal (lawful) to eat. These include camels, cows, rabbits, some birds, goats, horses among a few more. It should also be noted that fish or any creature that lives only in the water need not be made Halal. They are suitable for consumption whatever way they are killed.

Animals that have claws, or sharp teeth and prey on other animal (e.g. cats, dogs, vultures, tigers , lion etc) and repulsive animals like snakes, lizards etc. and animals that eat dirty things (e.g. pigs etc) are not permissible to eat even if you do the Halal ritual on them.

I hope I have explained about Halal. If you have anything about it I would be glad to discuss it with you. Also you can discuss anything about Islam and Muslims by visiting our group blog at - muslimunity.blogspot.com/

[iboo]

Is a total rubbish :yes:

And pls Rapa you better stop posting this kind of topics :)
i agree with u :yes: :yes: :yes:

[shanX]

yep, thx :)

[gazaly]

yep, thx :)
:yes: reply is here (http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37910) for this Thread...!!!:yes:

[uhox]

kohoma unath "gopalu samaja" wala bihiuna agam hetiyata yudeu, islam saha christian agam ganna puluwan..Mema agam athi une middle east wala. kAanthara wala saha yudda wala divi gewapu ayage akalpa mema agam wala ta godak balapala thiyenawa.

mewaye base thama

1- dewa wadaya (dewiyek innawa kiyana eka--Allah/ god)

2- prachandathwaya yam tharamakata anumatha kireema

3- thirisan sathunta wada minisa usas.. e nisa satthu merima kamak nehe kiyala.

4- pawata athi bayak nehe. Mokada maranen passe yanne swaragayata hari,, Allah langata kiyala vishwasa karanawa

Egypt wala eka muslim festival ekakata relawal pitin eluwan ge beli kapala maranawa mama dekka...

kohoma unath buddhism wala thiyena awihinsa wadaya e agam wala nehe...

E agam thunema samanatha bohomai....hariyata ekama thenakin patan gatthawage
:yes:

[gazaly]

kohoma unath "gopalu samaja" wala bihiuna agam hetiyata yudeu, islam saha christian agam ganna puluwan..Mema agam athi une middle east wala. kAanthara wala saha yudda wala divi gewapu ayage akalpa mema agam wala ta godak balapala thiyenawa.

mewaye base thama

1- dewa wadaya (dewiyek innawa kiyana eka--Allah/ god)

2- prachandathwaya yam tharamakata anumatha kireema

3- thirisan sathunta wada minisa usas.. e nisa satthu merima kamak nehe kiyala.

4- pawata athi bayak nehe. Mokada maranen passe yanne swaragayata hari,, Allah langata kiyala vishwasa karanawa

Egypt wala eka muslim festival ekakata relawal pitin eluwan ge beli kapala maranawa mama dekka...

kohoma unath buddhism wala thiyena awihinsa wadaya e agam wala nehe...

E agam thunema samanatha bohomai....hariyata ekama thenakin patan gatthawage
:yes:
Okkoma dannawa wagey katha karata kisima deyak Danney naha....Naththinam oyawidiyata kiyavida...4- pawata athi bayak nehe. Mokada maranen passe yanne swaragayata hari,, Allah langata kiyala vishwasa karanawa
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Ahata Peynadey vitharak hari kiyala hithanna Eppa A'gana A'aagamwala kiyanney Mokadda kiyana 1th Hoyala balanna... Mehema kiyanna kalin...Egypt wala eka muslim festival ekakata relawal pitin eluwan ge beli kapala maranawa mama dekka....... O'wa katha karanna Eppa mokada oya samaharun balanney Kohenkaata hari Gahala waraddak kiyala Eyala Hari Anith Aya Okkoma Waradi Kiyannai.... Dan Api Oya Kathawa Nawaththamu...

[skystar]

yo whats up niggas, u all fuckers are thinking that buddist religon is the gretast religon in the world, altest u cant reach with tamil. but y u all fuckers insult to chrstian and muslim

mind ur worlds when ur posting

this admin will never take carea bout this or what. stupids!!!!!!!!

when ur posting u guys dont have a rights to talking about religons

[wizkido]

yo whats up niggas, u all fuckers are thinking that buddist religon is the gretast religon in the world, altest u cant reach with tamil. but y u all fuckers insult to chrstian and muslim

mind ur worlds when ur posting

this admin will never take carea bout this or what. stupids!!!!!!!!

when ur posting u guys dont have a rights to talking about religons

:confused: Not so Chap., each and every one has the right to talk about any religion they want just as well you have right to follow any of which as same.

If you do not agree with one's views, either contest it or neglect it.:rolleyes: Thought I do not understand 80% of which was written here, I agree with Gastly on most of his points.

At the end of the day, he's a Muslim, so what he writes has the tendency to be biased., so what ever you take in., make sure you don't look through coloured glasses.

On the question of religion, I ran into an interesting point some time ago. I would like gastly if you can shed some light into this.

As you see, except for few, all most all the major religions which people follow at present, have emerged during the last two thousand years and surprisingly all are revolved around the geographical continent of South- South east Asia.

Though I am a Christian my self, I have this weired feeling that all these religions are broken down by one religion at large. And my 2 cents are at Buddhism. Taking out all the bull crap about GODs both in Quaran & Bible., you will be surprised to see how much it is similar to the core of Buddhism.

Now here's the catch. I was taught that Buddhist monks were ordered to spread the Buddhist vision after 300 years of Buddha's dismissal. And it is the same time around that both Christianity and Muslim emerged.

In the bible we are taught that Christ was a yellow robed man who preached a new way of living and forgiving for the Roman slaves. :confused: and to make things interesting the word "Allah" is said to be broken down from the word "ARAHATH" of Buddhist monks :confused: Because Araibian people cannot pronounce the dialect "RAH" :confused:

hm, and yes, Halal, was invented to keep the meat from rotting in hot desert climate. :yes: By draining the blood out of an animal without chopping it head off will make sure the moisture within the animal body will be drained out and in-turn will help to preserve the meat for a longer period of time. NO such GOD or ALLAH in that theory as I see it.

[nabil]

minissu hada gaththa agama minissunma wenas kara ganna eka ahanndath deyakda bun ? :D :D :D :D :D :D
watch ur words man

[x-pert]

In the bible we are taught that Christ was a yellow robed man who preached a new way of living and forgiving for the Roman slaves.

Wrong comment...

Jesus Christ was a man who wore a red color or may be a redish color robe. Not Yellow.

[Alaya]

Muslims la kiyanne machan ee satha wada widinne nathuwa eka paratama maruwama Halal kiyala

ee para mama ahuwa fish wala ee wage problem ekak nadda kiyala

nahalu

mama ahuwa maalu daelakata hari nathnam bili piththakata hari ahu wunama un kochchara wada widalada marenne kiyala

ee para uu kiyanawa pothe kiyala thiyanne ohoma thamalu

[x-pert]

Why bother about the religions... ??????

All the religions tell us to do the correct thing....

Neither tell us to kill people, rob others, tell lies... etc.. aint it..??

So whats the point of talking about a concept called religions.

I never was a catholic by my knowledge, Nabil or Fazal isn't a Musalman by their knowledge, Rapa and my girl dint become buddhists by their knowledge...

We all got our religions by our parents... and they all tell us to do the correct thing...

After referring the bible I realised catholic is the best, but after I meet my girl friend I used to read buddhist stuff as well. The only I realised all are almost same... Islam is also another religion.. that's it..

No point talking about their rituals and stuff... its their choice.

[nabil]

guyz lets stop being racists.. watever muslim , budhist, tamil or hindu here at elakiri v r one community.. so lets act as 1..
end of discussion

[wizkido]

Why bother about the religions... ??????

All the religions tell us to do the correct thing....

Neither tell us to kill people, rob others, tell lies... etc.. aint it..??

So whats the point of talking about a concept called religions.

I never was a catholic by my knowledge, Nabil or Fazal isn't a Musalman by their knowledge, Rapa and my girl dint become buddhists by their knowledge...

We all got our religions by our parents... and they all tell us to do the correct thing...

After referring the bible I realised catholic is the best, but after I meet my girl friend I used to read buddhist stuff as well. The only I realised all are almost same... Islam is also another religion.. that's it..

No point talking about their rituals and stuff... its their choice.


Ever head of thing called "Don't take anything to the face value?":confused:

Following your faith just because you parents ask/ did so is just as same that you would jump into an Ice hole, because you FATHER DID SO ??:confused: :confused:

I beg to differ !

Faith is your choice ! not because your heredity asks you so !:eek:

[wizkido]

I thought

Muslim and Christianity is a Religion which enforces people to follow what their bible or Quran tells them

but Buddhism is a Choice ! as if like., HERE'S THE WAY., TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT YOUR CHOICE ?

[hemalsilva]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal

[charutha1]

machan.. pravesamen.. :yes: prashnekata mula piruwa wage wei :rolleyes: :(
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[gazaly]

Muslims la kiyanne machan ee satha wada widinne nathuwa eka paratama maruwama Halal kiyala

ee para mama ahuwa fish wala ee wage problem ekak nadda kiyala

nahalu

mama ahuwa maalu daelakata hari nathnam bili piththakata hari ahu wunama un kochchara wada widalada marenne kiyala

ee para uu kiyanawa pothe kiyala thiyanne ohoma thamalu
O'kata Uththara denna puluwan Danmama.... Namuth mama kamathi naha nikan boruwata Methana Prashna Athikarannata.... Katha karanawanam O'na kenek gana Honda naraka Katha karanna puluwan... Api (Muslimla.Christiani Aya wagey..aya) aagam kaarayo hariney...ithin aagamak Devikenek Padanam karagena thiyena Deyak... Darshanayak Manussayek Padanam karagena thiyena deyak... Ithin Oya Dekeyma Adahas 1 haa samana wenna baha.. mokada... Manushshathwayai Deywathwayai kiyanney Ahasa Polawa wagey Duras Adahas walin... A'nisaa Aagam kaarayo atharey Thiyena adahas wenaskam wagey newei Darshna wadeen ,Aagam waadin Atharey thiyena Adahas wenaskam...
A'kata Hondama Wadey Api Oya Gana Katha Nokara Emu...

O'ya wagey sankeerna deywal Meywagey Entertainment site 1ka katha karana 1 theyrumak naha... Namuth kauru hari waradi deyak kiwwoth A'kata podiyata Reply 1 k Dennath wenawaa...

[chamithal]

hmmm........ well! I only do sm simple thinking... If you honestly believe tht wht u r doing is ok.. do it.. n vice versa :D

[ifadh132]

dude this is total misunderstanding..it aint suppose to be like this...dude this will lead into serious probz...so becareful with wat u talk.....

[Tissaka]

mona pol buruwada meka apahu udata gaththe? :rolleyes: :angry:

[Wal Bada]

Wrong comment...

Jesus Christ was a man who wore a red color or may be a redish color robe. Not Yellow.Two wrong comments. Robe of buddhist monks is also condiered to be reddish-orange (see the robe of monks in Madakada Aaranyaya, Ingiriya), which is colered using Jak roots. Jak root extracts are dark red brown in color

[shanX]

Arguments abt religious customs wud do no good :D

[uhox]

:lol:

he he gazaly buwa..

wiriththuwata wedak nehe..

Islam agame satthunta respect karanawada?

oya sattu maramin ritual karanne ...athal gannada banz :lol: :lol:

thawa liyanna puluwan unath liyanna yanne nehe me elakiriforum eke thenata respect karala. Kohoma unath yudew buwala ekka game eka clear karaganilla. Neth nam oyalata "ALLAH" gema pihitai :yes:

methana baila dodawanne nethuwa ara palastine wala, Iraq wala oyage "muslim" brothers la marana eka gena public forum walata liyanna. Ai bayada Israel MOSSAD ekata..lolzzz

:-)

[shanX]

Islam agame satthunta respect karanawada?

oya sattu maramin ritual karanne ...athal gannada banz :lol: :lol:
:-)
Respect karanawa :)

Saththu marala aathal ganta puluwanda?? :rolleyes: :lol: :lol:

Saththu maranne kanta oiy :D


thawa liyanna puluwan unath liyanna yanne nehe me elakiriforum eke thenata respect karala. Kohoma unath yudew buwala ekka game eka clear karaganilla. Neth nam oyalata "ALLAH" gema pihitai :yes:

Oya liyapu tikama hondatoama athi :D

Thawa tika dawaseng yudew buwalama clear wey :lol: :lol:

Kohomath muslimsta "ALLAH" gema pihita thama hema daama :yes: :D


methana baila dodawanne nethuwa ara palastine wala, Iraq wala oyage "muslim" brothers la marana eka gena public forum walata liyanna. Ai bayada Israel MOSSAD ekata..lolzzz

:-)

Public forum wala liyawwa kiyala Mozart ekeng allanne nae, ae nisaa baya wenta deyak nae :P :lol: :lol:

[gazaly]

methana baila dodawanne nethuwa ara palastine wala, Iraq wala oyage "muslim" brothers la marana eka gena public forum walata liyanna. Ai bayada Israel MOSSAD ekata..lolzzz


Kawda ban Unta baya Bayanam Mama Iraq wala War Ekata yanawada.. Ado 2 years Ehe Indalai Dan Mehe Inney...

Ado Balapan Api Baya naha Mokekutawath Umba Aluth Ekek A'kai Umba Adakala Naththey Api Open Ekema Unta Banala Dana Post.. Onna Tikak thiyenawaa balaganin Dammey kawadada kiyalaa Date 1th Ekkama...

Crime of US Soldiers (http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25615)
Lies, lies, lies 9-11 (Final cut!) (http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26045)
Now in Iraq (http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25257)
Israeli digging under Al-Aqsa Mosque in occupied Jerusalem (http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17464)

Onna thiyenawa samaharak A'wa.... Api Ponnayo newei Apye Jathiyata Gahanakota Balagena Innai.. Guti kakaa Unta P*ka Dennai...!!!
Umba Oya Bayawena Hena wada kaarayo kiyala Hithan Inna CIA/FBI ekath mama Face karala thiyenawaa.. :yes: :yes: Unlanga magey Vistharath Athi...!!! Api Baya naha ban...!!:yes: :yes: :yes:

Neth nam oyalata "ALLAH" gema pihitai
Anith Eka Machan Umba Kiyanna O'ney naha Apita Api Dannawa Apita ALLAH Deviyangey Pihita thamai... Nathuwa galaka, gahaka pihitak nahaney...:D :D


Saththu maranne kanta oiy :D
A'kaney Machan Saththu maranney Kanna ney.... :yes: :lol: :lol: Nathuwa Balan Inna Neweiney :yes: :yes: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[emes]

Dear Friend ,The story you are telling me about how muslims kill animals is very much alien to muslims. you have got some wrong info.

The Islamic method of slaughtering animals, known as Zabiha has been the object of much criticism from a large number of people.

Before I reply to the question, let me relate an incidence about a discussion between a Sikh and a Muslim regarding animal slaughter.

Once a Sikh asked a Muslim, "Why do you slaughter the animal painfully by cutting the throat instead of the way we do with one stroke i.e. jhatka?" The Muslim replied "We are brave and courageous and attack from the front. We are marad ka baccha (macho men), you are cowards and attack from behind".

Jokes apart, one may consider the following points, which prove that the Zabiha method is not only humane but also scientifically the best:


1. Islamic method of slaughtering animal


Zakkaytum is a verb derived from the root word Zakah (to purify). Its infinitive is Tazkiyah which means purification. The Islamic mode of slaughtering an animal requires the following conditions to be met:

a. Animal should be slaughtered with sharp object (knife)

The animal has to be slaughtered with a sharp object (knife) and in a fast way so that the pain of slaughter is minimised.

b. Cut wind pipe, throat and vessels of neck

Zabiha is an Arabic word which means ‘slaughtered’. The ‘slaughtering’ is to be done by cutting the throat, windpipe and the blood vessels in the neck causing the animal’s death without cutting the spinal cord.

c. Blood should be drained

The blood has to be drained completely before the head is removed. The purpose is to drain out most of the blood which would serve as a good culture medium for micro organisms. The spinal cord must not be cut because the nerve fibres to the heart could be damaged during the process causing cardiac arrest, stagnating the blood in the blood vessels.




2. Blood is a good medium for germs and bacteria


Blood is a good media of germs, bacteria, toxins, etc. Therefore the Muslim way of slaughtering is more hygienic as most of the blood containing germs, bacteria, toxins, etc. that are the cause of several diseases are eliminated.

3. Meat remains fresh for a longer time


Meat slaughtered by Islamic way remains fresh for a longer time due to deficiency of blood in the meat as compared to other methods of slaughtering.

4. Animal does not feel pain


The swift cutting of vessels of the neck disconnects the flow of blood to the nerve of the brain responsible for pain. Thus the animal does not feel pain. While dying, the animal struggles, writhers, shakes and kicks, not due to pain, but due to the contraction and relaxation of the muscles defecient in blood and due to the flow of blood out of the body.

[emes]

‘Vegetarianism’ is now a movement the world over. Many even associate it with animal rights. Indeed, a large number of people consider the consumption of meat and other non-vegetarian products to be a violation of animal rights.

Islam enjoins mercy and compassion for all living creatures. At the same time Islam maintains that Allah has created the earth and its wondrous flora and fauna for the benefit of mankind. It is upto mankind to use every resource in this world judiciously, as a niyamat (Divine blessing) and amanat (trust) from Allah.

Let us look at various other aspects of this argument.


1. A Muslim can be a pure vegetarian


A Muslim can be a very good Muslim despite being a pure vegetarian. It is not compulsory for a Muslim to have non-vegetarian food.


2. Qur’an permits Muslims to have non-vegetarian food


The Qur’an, however permits a Muslim to have non-vegetarian food. The following Qur’anic verses are proof of this fact:

"O ye who believe! Fulfil (all) obligations. Lawful unto you (for food) are all four-footed animals with the exceptions named."
[Al-Qur’an 5:1]

"And cattle He has created for you (men): from them Ye derive warmth, and numerous benefits, And of their (meat) ye eat."
[Al-Qur’an 16:5]

"And in cattle (too) ye have an instructive example: From within their bodies We produce (milk) for you to drink; there are, in them, (besides), numerous (other) benefits for you; and of their (meat) ye eat."
[Al-Qur’an 23:21]


3. Meat is nutritious and rich in complete protein


Non-vegetarian food is a good source of excellent protein. It contains biologically complete protein i.e. all the 8 essential amino acid that are not synthesized by the body and should be supplied in the diet. Meat also contains iron, vitamin B1 and niacin.


4. Humans have Omnivorous set of teeth


If you observe the teeth of herbivorous animals like the cow, goat and sheep, you will find something strikingly similar in all of them. All these animals have a set of flat teeth i.e. suited for herbivorous diet. If you observe the set of teeth of the carnivorous animals like the lion, tiger, or leopard, they all have a set of pointed teeth i.e. suited for a carnivorous diet. If you analyze the set of teeth of humans, you find that they have flat teeth as well as pointed teeth. Thus they have teeth suited for both herbivorous as well as carnivorous food i.e. they are omnivorous. One may ask, if Almighty God wanted humans to have only vegetables, why did He provide us also with pointed teeth? It is logical that He expected us to need and to have both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian food.


5. Human beings can digest both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food


The digestive system of herbivorous animals can digest only vegetables. The digestive system of carnivorous animals can digest only meat. But the digestive system of humans can digest both vegetarian and non-vegetarian food. If Almighty God wanted us to have only vegetables then why did He give us a digestive system that can digest both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian food?


6. Hindu scriptures give permission to have non-vegetarian food


There are many Hindus who are strictly vegetarian. They think it is against their religion to consume non-vegetarian food. But the true fact is that the Hindu scriptures permit a person to have meat. The scriptures mention Hindu sages and saints consuming non-vegetarian food.


It is mentioned in Manu Smruti, the law book of Hindus, in chapter 5 verse 30

"The eater who eats the flesh of those to be eaten does nothing bad, even if he does it day after day, for God himself created some to be eaten and some to be eater."


Again next verse of Manu Smruti, that is, chapter 5 verse 31 says

"Eating meat is right for the sacrifice, this is traditionally known as a rule of the gods."


Further in Manu Smruti chapter 5 verse 39 and 40 says

"God himself created sacrificial animals for sacrifice, ...., therefore killing in a sacrifice is not killing."


Mahabharata Anushashan Parva chapter 88 narrates the discussion between Dharmaraj Yudhishthira and Pitamah Bhishma about what food one should offer to Pitris (ancestors) during the Shraddha (ceremony of dead) to keep them satisfied. Paragraph reads as follows:

"Yudhishthira said, "O thou of great puissance, tell me what that object is which, if dedicated to the Pitiris (dead ancestors), become inexhaustible! What Havi, again, (if offered) lasts for all time? What, indeed, is that which (if presented) becomes eternal?"

"Bhishma said, "Listen to me, O Yudhishthira, what those Havis are which persons conversant with the rituals of the Shraddha (the ceremony of dead) regard as suitable in view of Shraddha and what the fruits are that attach to each. With sesame seeds and rice and barely and Masha and water and roots and fruits, if given at Shraddhas, the pitris, O king, remain gratified for the period of a month. With fishes offered at Shraddhas, the pitris remain gratified for a period of two months. With the mutton they remain gratified for three months and with the hare for four months, with the flesh of the goat for five months, with the bacon (meat of pig) for six months, and with the flesh of birds for seven. With venison obtained from those deer that are called Prishata, they remaingratified for eight months, and with that obtained from the Ruru for nine months, and with the meat of Gavaya for ten months, With the meat of the bufffalo their gratification lasts for eleven months. With beef presented at the Shraddha, their gratification, it is said , lasts for a full year. Payasa mixed with ghee is as much acceptable to the pitris as beef. With the meat of Vadhrinasa (a large bull) the gratification of pitris lasts for twelve years. The flesh of rhinoceros, offered to the pitris on anniversaries of the lunar days on which they died, becomes inexhaustible. The potherb called Kalaska, the petals of kanchana flower, and meat of (red) goat also, thus offered, prove inexhaustible.

So but natural if you want to keep your ancestors satisfied forever, you should serve them the meat of red goat.


7. Hinduism was influenced by other religions


Though Hindu Scriptures permit its followers to have non-vegetarian food, many Hindus adopted the vegetarian system because they were influenced by other religions like Jainism.


8. Even plants have life


Certain religions have adopted pure vegetarianism as a dietary law because they are totally against the killing of living creatures. If a person can survive without killing any living creature, I would be the first person to adopt such a way of life. In the past people thought plants were lifeless. Today it is a universal fact that even plants have life. Thus their logic of not killing living creatures is not fulfilled even by being a pure vegetarian.


9. Even plants can feel pain


They further argue that plants cannot feel pain, therefore killing a plant is a lesser crime as compared to killing an animal. Today science tells us that even plants can feel pain. But the cry of the plant cannot be heard by the human being. This is due to the inability of the human ear to hear sounds that are not in the audible range i.e. 20 Hertz to 20,000 Hertz. Anything below and above this range cannot be heard by a human being. A dog can hear up to 40,000 Hertz. Thus there are silent dog whistles that have a frequency of more than 20,000 Hertz and less than 40,000 Hertz. These whistles are only heard by dogs and not by human beings. The dog recognizes the masters whistle and comes to the master. There was research done by a farmer in U.S.A. who invented an instrument which converted the cry of the plant so that it could be heard by human beings. He was able to realize immediately when the plant itself cried for water. Latest researches show that the plants can even feel happy and sad. It can also cry.


10. Killing a living creature with two senses less is not a lesser crime


Once a vegetarian argued his case by saying that plants only have two or three senses while the animals have five senses.

Therefore killing a plant is a lesser crime than killing an animal. Suppose your brother is born deaf and dumb and has two senses less as compared to other human beings. He becomes mature and someone murders him. Would you ask the judge to give the murderer a lesser punishment because your brother has two senses less? In fact you would say that he has killed a masoom, an innocent person, and the judge should give the murderer a greater punishment.

In fact the Qur’an says:

"O ye people! Eat of what is on earth, lawful and good"
[Al-Qur’an 2:168]


11. Over population of cattle


If every human being was a vegetarian, it would lead to overpopulation of cattle in the world, since their reproduction and multiplication is very swift. Allah (swt) in His Divine Wisdom knows how to maintain the balance of His creation appropriately. No wonder He has permitted us to have the meat of the cattle.


12. Cost of meat is reasonable since all aren’t non-vegetarians


I do not mind if some people are pure vegetarians. However they should not condemn non-vegetarians as ruthless. In fact if all Indians become non-vegetarians then the present non-vegetarians would be losers since the prices of meat would rise.

[emes]

1. Only eating of herbivorous animals allowed


I agree that, what a person eats has an effect on his behaviour. This is one of the reasons why Islam prohibits the eating of carnivorous animals like lion, tiger, leopard, etc. who are violent and ferocious. The consumption of the meat of such animals would probably make a person violent and ferocious. Islam only allows the eating of herbivorous animals like cow, goat, sheep, etc. that are peaceful and docile. We Muslims eat peaceful and docile animals because we are peace loving and non-violent people.


2. The Qur’an says Prophet prohibits what is bad


The Qur’an says:

"The Prophet commands them what is just and prohibits what is evil". "He allows them as lawful what is good (and pure) and prohibits them what is bad (and impure),"
[Al-Qur’an 7: 157]

"So take what the Messenger assigns to you and deny yourselves that which he withholds from you."
[Al-Qur’an 59: 7]

For a Muslim, the Prophet’s statement is sufficient to convince him that Allah does not wish humans to eat some kinds of meat while allowing some other kinds.


3. Hadith of Mohammad (pbuh) prohibiting eating of carnivorous animals

According to various authentic Ahadith narrated in Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim including hadith narrated by Ibn Abbas in Sahih Muslim, Book of hunting and slaughter, Hadith No. 4752 and Sunan Ibn-I-Majah chapter 13 Hadith no. 3232 to 3234, the Holy Prophet (pbuh) prohibited the eating of:

Wild animals with canine teeth, i.e. meat eating carnivorous animals. These are animals belonging to the cat families such as lion, tiger, cats, dogs, wolfs, hyenas, etc.

Certain rodents like mice, rats, rabbits with claws, etc.

Certain reptiles like snakes, alligators, etc.

Birds of prey with talons or claws, like vultures, eagle, crows, owl, etc.

[emes]

The fact that consumption of pork is prohibited in Islam is well known. The following points explain various aspects of this prohibition:


1. Pork prohibited in Qur’an



The Qur’an prohibits the consumption of pork in no less than 4 different places. It is prohibited in 2:173, 5:3, 6:145 and 16:115.

"Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than Allah." [Al-Qur’an 5:3]

The above verses of the Holy Qur’an are sufficient to satisfy a Muslim as to why pork is forbidden.


2. Pork prohibited in the Bible



The Christian is likely to be convinced by his religious scriptures. The Bible prohibits the consumption of pork, in the book of Leviticus

"And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you".

"Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch, they are unclean to you."
[Leviticus 11:7-8]

Pork is also prohibited in the Bible in the book of Deuteronomy

"And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you. Ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass."
[Deuteronomy 14:8]

A similar prohibition is repeated in the Bible in the book of Isaiah chapter 65 verse 2-5.


3. Consumption of pork causes several diseases



The other non-Muslims and atheists will agree only if convinced through reason, logic and science. Eating of pork can cause no less than seventy different types of diseases. A person can have various helminthes like roundworm, pinworm, hookworm, etc. One of the most dangerous is Taenia Solium, which is in lay man’s terminology called tapeworm. It harbours in the intestine and is very long. Its ova i.e. eggs, enter the blood stream and can reach almost all the organs of the body. If it enters the brain it can cause memory loss. If it enters the heart it can cause heart attack, if it enters the eye it can cause blindness, if it enters the liver it can cause liver damage. It can damage almost all the organs of the body.

Another dangerous helminthes is Trichura Tichurasis. A common misconception about pork is that if it is cooked well, these ova die. In a research project undertaken in America, it was found that out of twenty-four people suffering from Trichura Tichurasis, twenty two had cooked the pork very well. This indicates that the ova present in the pork do not die under normal cooking temperature.


4. Pork has fat building material

Pork has very little muscle building material and contains excess of fat. This fat gets deposited in the vessels and can cause hypertension and heart attack. It is not surprising that over 50% of Americans suffer from hypertension.


5. Pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth


The pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth. It lives and thrives on muck, faeces and dirt. It is the best scavenger that I know that God has produced. In the villages they don’t have modern toilets and the villagers excrete in the open air. Very often excreta is cleared by pigs.

Some may argue that in advanced countries like Australia, pigs are bred in very clean and hygienic conditions. Even in these hygienic conditions the pigs are kept together in sties. No matter how hard you try to keep them clean they are filthy by nature. They eat and enjoy their own as well as their neighbour’s excreta.


6. Pig is the most shameless animal


The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate. In America, most people consume pork. Many times after dance parties, they have swapping of wives; i.e. many say "you sleep with my wife and I will sleep with your wife." If you eat pigs then you behave like pigs. We Indians look upon America to be very advanced and sophisticated. Whatever they do, we follow after a few years. According to an article in Island magazine, this practice of swapping wives has become common in the affluent circles of Bombay.

[gazaly]

Wow.....

[shane_shan]

hmmmmmm

[Heshanck93]

mona pol buruwada meka apahu udata gaththe? :rolleyes: :angry:
mama thamai

[uhox]

ado gazaly tho gemata da enne hambaya.

thota respect karala katha kalama gematada enne...

eluwa wage andapan.. Mage post eka umbe geri mas piruna bokkatama wedila neda do ..he..he

mata duka me "hambayanta" biliwena ape eluwanuth innawa ne.

Ado gazaly, tho mokakda do "gemak"gena deduwe... Aha umba Galleda?. Fort walada, Saranthu kadeda, kaluwelleda? he..he apith e peth the thama do.. (hariyata mu liyanne me forum eka uge appa ge wage ne? lolz)

ithin me forum eke game eka nawathwala waren open? Umbata thaththa kenek innawa nam ahapan "ara ekale saranthu kade, thani polgaha handiye, ehema uda penapu thambilata mokada une kiyala"... apita oya ahinsaka saththun ge beli kapala purudu nethi unata, ponna hambayonwa pethi gahala malu leli wala thiyala purudui....

ehenam "hamboyo" kawadada hamuwenne...

1- Samanala palama langada?
2-fort SLA army camp eka langa ground eke da ( he..he umbalage podi "thambi" petau hawasata ethana cricket gahanawa ne...)
3- Bus stand?

or somewhere else?

:-))

[elaTHEbra]

hapo gazaly nikan boru kiyanna epa ban
uba CIA/FBI dekkanam hujja gihin merenawa
nikan heena loka wala idan dodawanna epa
uba heenen Iraq walata gihin udde keruwada ha ha
uba nikan pora talks dala methana pora wenna hadanna epa
boru kiyanne mokatada apinam oya kauruwath danne nee adu gane Gall police wala gambattekwath danne nee
uba galle kiwwa neda ehenam hoya ganna amru wena ekak nee
ubawa hoyagena awillam wisthare aha gannamko
ethakota bala ganna beriya uba oya kiyanatharam weda karuda kiyala

[x-pert]

Okkomalla meka nawaththamu neda dan..

Muslim kiyala moko me Gazalyta kaa ganne ubala bungzzz????

ooth api wagema api ekkama hitapu sire kollekne bunzz...

Nikan nathi prashna athi karanne nathuwa okkomall sadda wahagaththanam hodai neda...

Muslim, Buddhist, Catholic, Hindu okkoma religions ne???
Hama ekeema kiyanne hodin samaadaanayen inna kiyala hamoth ekkama... ;)

[elaTHEbra]

x-pert ai uba oka uta kiyanne neththe
balapan kauda oka mulinma patan gaththe kiyala
ubath mokak hari kiyanna kalin poddak hoyala bala kiyapan kiyana deyak

[x-pert]

Owu.. Hodata kiyawala balahanko mula idalama kauda meeka patan gaththe kiyala....

Anika bung, Kauru patan gaththath apita wadak nahane...

dan iwarayak karahan meeka...

Nikan jaathi waadiyo aagam waadiyo wenna epa... :no:

Sri Lankaawe ooni minihekta jeewath wenna puluwan...

Anika RAPA.. uba meewage scene post karannath epa kolla....
Mama dannawane uba gana. Uba meewa wadiya hitala nemei daanne eeth machang meewa balala sama'harak' waradi deewal hithanna puluwan machang...

[cj_ashan]

Is a total rubbish :yes:

And pls Rapa you better stop posting this kind of topics :)

exactly, Criticizing ppl and religions is not good...
Why should we criticize other religions??? to say that our religion is superior or WHAT?
Extremists ideas will make this world a very bad place....

[GTRZ]

Now this is leading to a religion problem so please no more comments on this, there are extremists in every religion. Anyway in ElaKiri we all same and please do not come up with any of those ideas or try to insult other religions.

So i am telling you guys in very friendly manner lets stop this talk :yes: I normally don't lock threads so please obey ElaKiri rules :)

Thanks X-pert for showing this thread to me :yes:

[uhox]

dear brothers..

samawenna ona hard talk ekata..

eth oyala dekkane kauda "game" gena deduwe kiyala....

ekale Tamil extremist lath me wage.. Ap1 sinhala aya iwasuwa.. passe un arms aragattha.. E wage thamai me "thambi" buwalath.

NIYAPOTHTHEN KADANNA THIYENA DE' PORAWEN KAPANNA PASSATA THIYANNA EPA..

for example, Pakisthan, sri lanka cricket match waladi me lankawe inna muslin ewun cheer karanne pakisthan walata.. ape Sinhala kadekata mun godawenne wath nehe... Ape perenno aganthuka sathkare karala thambi welendo piligattha..
Den mun apitama kelinna enawa..:yes:

oyala kiyanawa wage forum rules walata respect karala nawathimi..

budusaranai

[manjulagww]

killing animals for food is not bad

[badapissa]

In Buddhism, killing a living being is always considered to be a sin as we have no right to take some other living creature's life. But as I can see in other religions there are variations for this.

Muslims do believe in animal welfare "Whoever is kind to the creatures of God is kind to himself" (Wisdom of Prophet Mohammad; Muhammad Amin; The Lion Press, Lahore, Pakistan; 1945)

They have regulations in meat. But... He hath forbidden you only carrion and blood and swine flesh and that which hath been immolated to any other than Allah.. (Quran Chapter II , Verse 173) The prophet has forbidden flesh only if it is not a sacrifice for himself. Does that mean he always expect sacrifices from men?.NO. Obviously he can't be that much cruel to accept meat from billions of people per day!.

That sacrifice ritual is called HALAL ( correct me if i am wrong ). As I know the original ritual of killing an animal is, the killer should be on a plate which is heated to become red and kill the animal. That ritual make sense, as no one would do such a commitment to kill another. So, he meant not to kill ( in an implicit way ). But the time has changed, you wouldn't believe how the ritual carried out now. They use a red colored plate as the seat when killing animals. You really can't symbolize a ritual in that way. But they perform other ritual there. That is never show the weapon to the animal before being killed :).

The religion should sometimes be adapted to the current society , but not in a selfish manner like this. I don't think this post would hurt Muslims ( as I didn't criticize holy prophet ) . This is what I see as truth. Always open for debate.

http://bp2.blogger.com/_AfS-t0ttZC0/RZYkQT_V4YI/AAAAAAAAAAM/ZHmn6fxPSd8/s320/halal.jpg

http://thripitaka.blogspot.com/2006/12/killing-animals-and-halal.html:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: Maraine

[firoz85]

please watch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQUGLNaEXyg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm0yH9DpyzU

http://www.islamicvoice.com/september.99/zakir.htm

http://www.asiantribune.com/?q=node/14022

[olympic]

idk

[sherlock]

:confused: :confused:

[manjulagww]

killing animals for food is good