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zCexVe
02-13-2009, 03:42 AM
Barely a week into the introduction of the DDR3-supportive AM3 socket CPUs, the processors seem to be having design flaws. This, as circulated by AMD in its revision guide document for the 10h family of processors (found here (http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/41322_PUB_Rev3_40v2.pdf), page 80). The issue, as described by AMD, centers around the DDR3 memory sub-system. On machines with more than one PC3-10600 (1333 MHz) memory module populating a memory channel, the users may experience unreliable operation. The company does not get into the specifics of the symptoms. This issue however, does not affect systems with a module per channel (one or two modules installed in the motherboard), and only those with three to four modules installed.

The AMD K10 memory controllers on AM3-socket processor provide a 128-bit wide memory interface (with DRAM Ganged mode enabled), which amount to two 64-bit wide memory channels. On most motherboards, four DIMM slots with two slots sharing a memory channel are present. With this issue, one is not recommended to use more than one DDR3-1333 memory module per channel. AMD recommends a quick fix for the issue for systems using more than one DDR3-1333 module per memory channel: to manually specify the memory to run at 533 MHz (1066 MHz DDR), and accordingly set DRAM timings. As a little compensation, one can tighten DRAM timings with the drop in frequency. AMD will fix this issue in the next stepping (sub-version) of the CPUs. The "x-factor" with this erratum revolves around DRAM voltage, a significant factor. One might note AMD saying "the processor memory subsystem may exhibit unreliable operation over the allowable VDDIO voltage range", which leads us to think if there is a potential workaround with adjusting the DRAM voltage beyond the allowable range (read: over-volting the memory). We hope to hear more from AMD on this.

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Bigspin
02-13-2009, 04:10 AM
God! they are going to fix it.

Bravo.....AMD

deegopower
02-13-2009, 09:24 AM
amd is no failure......

coxgulo
02-13-2009, 09:34 AM
Typical AMD! (SUXXX Big time!! ) :D :D :D

tharinduak
02-13-2009, 05:08 PM
great finaly can shift from my intel piece of crap to a phenom 2

Anusha
02-13-2009, 06:36 PM
great finaly can shift from my intel piece of crap to a phenom 2
ROFL. Intel is crap? YES. It is, compared to AMD's CPUs which will be released in another decade ROFL (hopefully :P)
If Intel doesn't make another half a dozen new CPUs by then, I will surely switch to AMD :P

coxgulo
02-13-2009, 06:46 PM
great finaly can shift from my intel piece of crap to a phenom 2


Man! Didn't u read da topic? Phenom II AM3 plagued??? :confused::confused:

Either u cannot read properly or a just plain old Dumass !!:rofl::rofl: OR Better both!!! :yes::yes:

Intel_Nehalem
02-13-2009, 07:23 PM
great finaly can shift from my intel piece of crap to a phenom 2
well the intel pieces of crap are beating the pants out of the phenom IIs :lol: :dull:

tharinduak
02-15-2009, 06:14 AM
dude my intel PC suxs big time.my previous athlon 64 is much better than this because in energy consumption.I didn't turn off my pc because I download movies all day.But what can I clearly see is that AMD is much better in power consumption.Phenom 2 is bugged yes only for now.they will be releasing a fix which will remove the bug & another features.I agree for now AMD isn't King of performance but it is best in power consumption & gaming intel chipsets is no match for AMD chipsets.so the only downfall of purchasing AMD cpu is it's low performance but there isn't a very large performance gap.therefore i choose to shift to AMD.

zCexVe
02-15-2009, 06:19 AM
dude my intel PC suxs big time.my previous athlon 64 is much better than this because in energy consumption.I didn't turn off my pc because I download movies all day.But what can I clearly see is that AMD is much better in power consumption.Phenom 2 is bugged yes only for now.they will be releasing a fix which will remove the bug & another features.I agree for now AMD isn't King of performance but it is best in power consumption & gaming intel chipsets is no match for AMD chipsets.so the only downfall of purchasing AMD cpu is it's low performance but there isn't a very large performance gap.therefore i choose to shift to AMD.
Its because when Athlon 64 goes power saving(Cool n Quiet)Ity can drop the multiplier by half but Intel goes power saving it cant drop that much,always more than half.So If you are downloading its better.But with the 45nm Intel chips AMD cant beat ti up with the same performance.

DJ ASHAN
02-15-2009, 06:43 AM
ahaaaa good