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x-pert
08-04-2009, 08:01 AM
A Sudanese journalist facing 40 lashes for wearing "indecent" trousers vowed on the eve of her judgement that she is ready to be whipped 40,000 times in her bid to change the country's harsh laws.

Lubna Ahmed al-Hussein, who works for the media department of the United Nations Mission in Sudan, is to be judged on Tuesday after waiving the immunity granted to UN workers.

She is to be judged under Article 152 of Sudanese law, which promises 40 lashes for anyone "who commits an indecent act which violates public morality or wears indecent clothing".

Hussein, who is in her 30s and whose husband died of kidney failure, told AFP in a telephone interview: "I'm ready for anything to happen. I'm absolutely not afraid of the verdict."

Police arrested Hussein and 12 other women wearing trousers at a Khartoum restaurant on July 3. Two days later 10 of the women accepted a punishment of 10 lashes, but Hussein is appealing in a bid to eliminate such rough justice.
The other two women are also facing charges.

"If I'm sentenced to be whipped, or to anything else, I will appeal. I will see it through to the end, to the constitutional court if necessary," Hussein said.
"And if the constitutional court says the law is constitutional, I'm ready to be whipped not 40 but 40,000 times."

Hussein invited scores of journalists to her first court hearing on Wednesday, when she made a point of wearing the same clothes she wore when she was arrested - moss-green slacks with a loose floral top and green headscarf.

Hordes of people, many of them female supporters and some also wearing trousers out of solidarity, crammed into the courthouse for the hearing.

"My main objective is to get rid of Article 152," Hussein said. "This article is against both the constitution and sharia," the Islamic law ruling northern Sudan.
Adding insult to injury, some of the women whipped in July were from animist and Christian south Sudan where sharia law does not apply.

"If some people refer to the sharia to justify flagellating women because of what they wear, then let them show me which Koranic verses or hadith (sayings of the Prophet Mohammed) say so. I haven't found them."

Unlike many other Arab countries, particularly in the Gulf, women have a prominent place in Sudanese public life. Nevertheless, human rights organisations say some of the country's laws discriminate against women.

"Tens of thousands of women and girls have been whipped for their clothes these last 20 years. It's not rare in Sudan," Hussein said.

"It's just that none of them would dare complain, because who would believe that they were whipped just for wearing trousers? They're afraid of scandal, of raising doubts about their morals.

"I want people to know. I want these women's voices to be heard."
By bringing the practice into the public eye "I've already won half the battle," she said, vowing to wear the same "indecent" clothes to her judgment on Tuesday.

AAP via Yahoo (http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/5770964/woman-faces-40-lashes-for-wearing-pants/)

prasadana2
08-04-2009, 08:06 AM
o dam....middle east is so bad..

Grim Reaper
08-04-2009, 08:42 AM
I hate middle east!!!!!!!!!

tdevinda
08-04-2009, 08:59 AM
It was on BBC, I saw it. She's trying to get more media attention to the trial.
But,....
remember what BBC and CNN reported about our country??? They may be lying here too!

prasadana2
08-04-2009, 09:18 AM
It was on BBC, I saw it. She's trying to get more media attention to the trial.
But,....
remember what BBC and CNN reported about our country??? They may be lying here too!

ya may be..but in middle east women are treated badly...:( thats true..
coz i have some friends on middle east..

jayanthah
08-04-2009, 09:37 AM
It was on BBC, I saw it. She's trying to get more media attention to the trial.
But,....
remember what BBC and CNN reported about our country??? They may be lying here too!

I agree, if not lying they are exagerating..............remember Norma Khouri & her book forbidden love???

These media men would create news for a few dollars more, they are the worst of the terrorists!!!!

x-pert
08-04-2009, 09:39 AM
It was on BBC, I saw it. She's trying to get more media attention to the trial.
But,....
remember what BBC and CNN reported about our country??? They may be lying here too!

Yes, she is trying to get the attention of the global community through media to show about Sudan's human rights violations.

BBC/ CNN and almost all foreign media are somehwat biased to the party which gives them the bigger benefit. And they always try to find out about human rights and raise their voice.

In Sri Lanka the situation was far more different. Without proper investigations they reported because both parties were publishing contradicting statements. And as I've said before, biased to the bigger benefit provider.

But in this Sudanese case, it's different don't you think?

Let's say even a woman did a wrong thing (of cause not like wearing some jeans), would you justify whipping (kasa pahara) a woman under any circumstances?

That's what this is all about. Women should have their right to choose what they want to wear as long as it doesn't do any 'harm' to others in the community. And if any country or a religion restricts and whips women who don't obey the so called rules, then there is a problem somewhere.

jayanthah
08-04-2009, 09:46 AM
That's what this is all about. Women should have their right to choose what they want to wear as long as it doesn't do any 'harm' to others in the community. And if any country or a religion restricts and whips women who don't obey the so called rules, then there is a problem somewhere.

Who knows if she was given a whipping at all, who knows if she was punished for some other crime??? Remember, different regimes have different penal codes & practices, whipping is brutal, if you go on that line, even imprisonment is inhuman, look what happened to Australian criminal justice system by trying to be "HUMANE"..........dont you think that the crimes have increased dramatically over last few years?? Dont you think the relaxed penalties are one of the reasons for that increase??? I do :)

coolgayathra
08-04-2009, 09:53 AM
who belivbes CNNshit
i hate them
how they completely destroyted our countries image ALSO BBC shit..

ruwanfer
08-04-2009, 10:01 AM
who belivbes CNNshit
i hate them
how they completely destroyted our countries image ALSO BBC shit..

TOTAL AGREE:yes:

prasadana2
08-04-2009, 10:01 AM
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/woman-faces-40-lashes-for-wearing-pants/article1234736/

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicanisima/2009/08/woman-faces-40-lashes-for-wearing-pants.html

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2009/07/sudanese-journalist-taken-to-court-for-sensational-clothing.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jul/30/briefly-41646362/

x-pert
08-04-2009, 10:01 AM
Who knows if she was given a whipping at all, who knows if she was punished for some other crime??? Remember, different regimes have different penal codes & practices, whipping is brutal, if you go on that line, even imprisonment is inhuman, look what happened to Australian criminal justice system by trying to be "HUMANE"..........dont you think that the crimes have increased dramatically over last few years?? Dont you think the relaxed penalties are one of the reasons for that increase??? I do :)

Good Rational thinking Jay bro :) Thanks.

Well actually the final verdict will be given today as I saw. So still nobody knows.

In my personal terms (mind you this is a very personal opinion), punishments with any physical and mental harm is inhumane. In other terms, a punishment to be 'inhumane' it has to punish the person physically and mentally.

Physical punishments are also inhumane to a certain extent, but if it's for a real crime, I don't mind. Like hanging by neck untill death if the criminal has commited a severe crime, I don't mind.

Whipping a woman involves physical and mental punishment elements.
So I really don't accept that. And given the crime was wearing a jean, then I won't really accept it.

Again, according to some scholarly research, punishments will not solve or stop all the crimes. In fact some punishments stimulate more crimes and formation of criminal gangs. Best way to stop those crimes are to propagate equality and justise from childhood into ones mind and heart. How to do it.. I don't know. But 1 thing is for sure. We all live in a world full of crimes.

[Yes, the issue of as to whether the woman has done any other crime, and/or was that punishment really involved still remains unsolved.]

Shann..
08-04-2009, 10:36 PM
hhahahhahahahahahahahahaah

sandun_kg
08-04-2009, 10:47 PM
Munge mara gon rules tiyenne ban....kalakirenawa..

sanath ekanayake
08-05-2009, 01:02 AM
who belivbes CNNshit
i hate them
how they completely destroyted our countries image ALSO BBC shit..:yes::yes::yes:ABSOLUTELY YES!!!PLUS AL-JAZEERA.:growl:

twisted
08-05-2009, 01:14 AM
just hope lanka wont end up like this.