Install Vista on a USB stick in three minutes

[Anusha]

OMFG!!! http://theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=38348
CORSAIR IS COMING out with faster USB sticks, dubbed Voyager GT. These allegedly indestructible drives are supposed to be so fast, that you can install Windows Vista Home Premium edition in a matter of minutes. Three minutes, to be precise.
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[The_Ace]

man! is it the end of HDD ?

[lasanka]

what the hell is dis like a joke??? vista in 3 minutes??? oh god!

[Anusha]

what the hell is dis like a joke??? vista in 3 minutes??? oh god!
It's hard to believe, but I don't think it is a joke. This a reputed website.

[Michael]

3 Minutes :eek: :eek: How Come

[Anusha]

man! is it the end of HDD ?
Well, flash drives can't beat the price of hard disks. Hopefully those hybrid drives will give us the best of both worlds.

[MCLINER]

wat ???

[Anusha]

3 Minutes :eek: :eek: How Come
Because of the 25 times faster random accessing + the image based Vista installation.
Buy a 16GB model and try installing Vista on it :D

[The_Ace]

but how is it going faster than the USB 2 data transfer limits ?? Does it use a new USB protocol as well ?

[milindayu]

Wow..............isnt this great............

[Anusha]

wat ???
Faintish? :D

[fazaal24]

WOAH!!in 3 minz...thats cool newzzz........unbeleivable but

[Anusha]

but how is it going faster than the USB 2 data transfer limits ?? Does it use a new USB protocol as well ?
No, no. This is USB 2.0 Hi-speed (what we all know).
Theoretically, Vista installation will be about 6GB, so ~6000MB/60MBps = 100s < less than 2 minutes. But we all know it's not like that. I think it has a lot to do with the way Vista installation is made.

[Anusha]

Wow..............isnt this great............
Of course it's great. Too bad none of use will be installing Vista on a flash drive :D

[MCLINER]

Faintish? :D
ya
It's unbelivable

Even new computers takes hours 2 install VISTA ne...................

[milindayu]

Of course it's great. Too bad none of use will be installing Vista on a flash drive :D


Why:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: not

[The_Ace]

No, no. This is USB 2.0 Hi-speed (what we all know).
Theoretically, Vista installation will be about 6GB, so ~6000MB/60MBps = 100s < less than 2 minutes. But we all know it's not like that. I think it has a lot to do with the way Vista installation is made.

umm isnt that 48000/60MBps = 800s ~ about 13 minutes ?

Data transfer rates are given in bits not bytes..

[Anusha]

umm isnt that 48000/60MBps = 800s ~ about 13 minutes ?

Data transfer rates are given in bits not bytes..
480Mbps = 60MBps

[lasanka]

woah oki dude tnx for the info.. really incredible though!

[Anusha]

ya
It's unbelivable

Even new computers takes hours 2 install VISTA ne...................
Pissu. My old PC could install within 30 minutes. This one can do within 25 minutes. :rolleyes:

[MCLINER]

Pissu. My old PC could install within 30 minutes. This one can do within 25 minutes. :rolleyes:
hari hari

3minz walin bane

[Anusha]

hari hari

3minz walin bane
Why not? Hard disk is the slowest component in the PC. If the access time of flash drives is 25 times better than typical 7200RPM drives, well, we can expect it to install fast. Maybe not exactly 3 minutes. We don't know from which point to which point they counted 3 minutes ne?

[The_Ace]

maybe from the 'Installing Windows' bit ? :P :P

[Anusha]

maybe from the 'Installing Windows' bit ? :P :P
Well, let's hope not :D

Anyways, I can "sort of" install Vista within 10 minutes ;)

[chanakacm]

mala sekarai vista 3 minutes valin install karanna???????

[ashan_ok]

elata thiyei!!!!!!!

[chamithal]

Wow! Onna machan readyboost walata kiyapu bande... Shaaa... Machan.. but if flash memory keeps getting faster like this day by day.. it'll most probably dominate the storage world.. ofcourse after some major developments...

[Anusha]

Wow! Onna machan readyboost walata kiyapu bande... Shaaa... Machan.. but if flash memory keeps getting faster like this day by day.. it'll most probably dominate the storage world.. ofcourse after some major developments...
Still can't beat the price of magnetic storage. They only cost your around Rs.50-60 per GB.

[chamithal]

Still can't beat the price of magnetic storage. They only cost your around Rs.50-60 per GB.

Still ne macho... Eth kiyanna bane... performance matters ne... balanna dan aurudu 2ta 3ta kalin USB n nw! Price kohoma adu welada?

[Anusha]

Still ne macho... Eth kiyanna bane... performance matters ne... balanna dan aurudu 2ta 3ta kalin USB n nw! Price kohoma adu welada?
But I don't think it will ever come down to even closer to economies of magnetic storage.

[prasadana2]

cnt v install xp like this.

[Anusha]

cnt v install xp like this.
You can I guess. Google and see. :D

[SAN_APIIT]

I have a question


Does that means the delay we are getting at installing is coz of the slow data tranfer speed of our data storage devises?????

But SATA has a grater transfer speed than USB 2.0 ne????
And the read/write speed is also high ne???
So how come we can't install on a SATA in 3 minuets???

What do u guys think about this?

[dineitdark]

Of course it's great. Too bad none of use will be installing Vista on a flash drive :D
why not people? if u install your OS in a USB(as some of us has already done with linux ;)) you can carry ur desktop + settings + files + apps anywhere u go and plug in your USB and boot! there u have your desktop in that computer.. and all the work u do will be saved to the USB so u can just remove the USB and take asomewhere else and start working from the place you stopped when u left the last place... :)

its mobile, and people already do it with linux distros... i don't know about vista, hey! there is this commercial thing called mojo pack... give it a search.. it does the same thing with XP..

[Anusha]

why not people? if u install your OS in a USB(as some of us has already done with linux ;)) you can carry ur desktop + settings + files + apps anywhere u go and plug in your USB and boot! there u have your desktop in that computer.. and all the work u do will be saved to the USB so u can just remove the USB and take asomewhere else and start working from the place you stopped when u left the last place... :)

its mobile, and people already do it with linux distros... i don't know about vista, hey! there is this commercial thing called mojo pack... give it a search.. it does the same thing with XP..
Ahem! Who has a 16GB flash drive?
Yeah, maybe XP.

[The_Ace]

There's Bart PE. FOSS Windows XP Live CD maker. It can be used to create Windows XP Live environment for a USB stick too.
Only problem is that no many PCs can be booted from a USB stick.

I'm sure Vista can be turned in to a Live CD or DVD as well. It'll not have the loads of eye candy that vista has but only the core system with additional tools to use it as a rescue CD/DVD

[blackroses]

amamta hudu

[dineitdark]

Ahem! Who has a 16GB flash drive?
Yeah, maybe XP.
hehe.. well if u have a 2GB one... u can carry some 4.5GB of data... in it... with some liveCD like linux environments... with a compressed file system... if not u simply buy a external HD! ;) haha now thats not hard to do??? hehe... and then if u get a 80Gig hard you can get some 160Gig data.. space.. with a compressed file system.. or if u want more speed u can just use the 80Gigs with out any compressing... :cool:

but there is a risk when u are using a flash drive... when u run a OS from a flash drive it tend to die very quickly than normally... so better opt for a HD.(i guess this happens cause of the constant read write...)

[pasanlaksiri]

OMG. Thanks for the awesome info. :lol:

[shanX]

WOW :shocked:

3mins... :D

[shanX]

Ahem! Who has a 16GB flash drive?
Yeah, maybe XP.
Well am not sure, but I remember sm1 posted a XP USB edition here

[Anusha]

hehe.. well if u have a 2GB one... u can carry some 4.5GB of data... in it... with some liveCD like linux environments... with a compressed file system... if not u simply buy a external HD! ;) haha now thats not hard to do??? hehe... and then if u get a 80Gig hard you can get some 160Gig data.. space.. with a compressed file system.. or if u want more speed u can just use the 80Gigs with out any compressing... :cool:

but there is a risk when u are using a flash drive... when u run a OS from a flash drive it tend to die very quickly than normally... so better opt for a HD.(i guess this happens cause of the constant read write...)
Compressed? :confused:
Now, that adds too much system overhead ne?
Besides, who has so much data to move from one place to another? :D

[dineitdark]

Compressed? :confused:
Now, that adds too much system overhead ne?
Besides, who has so much data to move from one place to another? :D
no soo much system overhead... cause this is compression/decompression built in to the kernel as kernel modules... so its on the fly... and not soo slow....

like if u are gonna use that as ur system, u will need that mem... it depends though...

[Anusha]

no soo much system overhead... cause this is compression/decompression built in to the kernel as kernel modules... so its on the fly... and not soo slow....

like if u are gonna use that as ur system, u will need that mem... it depends though...
Yes, it won't be that slow because the CPU is always faster than the flash drives (but depends on the compression algorithms and the level of compression). But can the compression in the file system make so much of a difference? 100%???

[The_Ace]

definetly not 100% Infact compression systems like these are not recommented for normal installations. They are meant for special cases like Live CD or Live USB envornments.
Main reason is that you cannot practically use a system with 100% compressed HDD. FOr example, if you have a 40GB HDD compressed to hold 80GB, then yo must have AT LEAST 80GB free memory to expand that HDD. Otherwise you're gonna crash your system. The Live CDs uses a special technique where only wanted programs are extracted in to memory but that can only be used if at the end of the day, the amount of data that is compressed remains the same. That's why live CDs cannot store new data or even changes you do over reboots.

[dineitdark]

Yes, it won't be that slow because the CPU is always faster than the flash drives (but depends on the compression algorithms and the level of compression). But can the compression in the file system make so much of a difference? 100%???

a liveCD(lets take it as 750MBs...) can have a compressed file system of more than twice the size of it self.. it works by extracting only the needed data to the RAM... all the linux live CDs use number compressed files systems...