Microsoft: Vista Safer than OS X, Linux

[Anusha]

Microsoft security strategy director Jeff Jones this week published a report comparing the security vulnerability profile for various high-profile operating systems in the 90 days of their existence. Surprisingly, Vista came out in front: Vista had 5 vulnerabilities in its first 90 days, one of them fixed, and one pending with a High severity rating. By comparison, XP had a total of 17 vulnerabilities in its first 90 days, 8 of which were rated High, when it shipped in 2001.

The surprises, however, come when you compare the non-Microsoft competition. Mac OS X 10.4, a darling of the press, actually suffered from 20 vulnerabilities in its first 90 days, 8 of which were rated High. Worse, OS X 10.4 still suffered from 17 publicly disclosed but unpatched vulnerabilities at the end of those 90 days. "The data doesn't support [Apple's] marketing," Jones writes. Linux fared even worse: Ubuntu 6.06 suffered from a whopping 71 vulnerabilities in its first 90 days, 27 of those rated High. And there were at least 29 unpatched vulnerabilities in that OS after the 90 day period ended. And so on. You can read the entire report (PDF), and look forward, as I am, to Jones' 6-month and 1-year updates.

View: Report (http://www.csoonline.com/pdf/Vista_Vuln_Report.pdf) (.pdf)
News source: WindowsIT Pro (http://www.windowsitpro.com/Articles/ArticleID/95554/95554.html?Ad=1)

[shanX]

Good news :) But vulnerabilities, yet thr z tym to be discovered ;)

But OS X :rolleyes: :lol:

[pasanlaksiri]

But linux is good for the developers.

[elaTHEbra]

P** thama :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[madurax86]

may b may b not
but linux has only abt 2,000 viruses n da developers r goin evn further to stop dose 2000 viruses
windows vista eh? same bullshit windows kernel wit a new look da number of kernel affective viruses r way beyond 2000 n its stil countin hehe so my conclusion

VISTA SUKS!!

[madurax86]

n abt da vulnerabilities dude u hav to think of da ones that dont get caught not da otherway around. n ubuntu is new in da business find out abt opensuse, redhat,debian tell me if u find out ny "vulnerabilities " in dem

[Anusha]

may b may b not
but linux has only abt 2,000 viruses n da developers r goin evn further to stop dose 2000 viruses
windows vista eh? same bullshit windows kernel wit a new look da number of kernel affective viruses r way beyond 2000 n its stil countin hehe so my conclusion

VISTA SUKS!!
Wonder how people get so many viruses. I've only had one infection and it was in 1998. No harm has come my way ever since. I come across trojans once in a while, but that too if I look for a crack.

[Anusha]

n abt da vulnerabilities dude u hav to think of da ones that dont get caught not da otherway around. n ubuntu is new in da business find out abt opensuse, redhat,debian tell me if u find out ny "vulnerabilities " in dem
Well, it's the detected vulnerabilities that matter. How can someone exploit one that's impossible to find :confused:

[ashan_ok]

thnx 4 d info bro!!!

[thusithagh]

I think u r wrong abt dis. U can't say Vista is safer than Linux. bcos linux is nt static it improves dynamically. so many developers involved in it. so it gets better and better everyday..but vista is nt like this.

[Anusha]

I think u r wrong abt dis. U can't say Vista is safer than Linux. bcos linux is nt static it improves dynamically. so many developers involved in it. so it gets better and better everyday..but vista is nt like this.
Dude, I'm not the one who's telling this :D

[gayannr]

these days i'm heavily suffered by viruses,trojan horses etc etc etc etc.u know wat i do before plugging my PEN drive to win XP after going home first thing is log in to LINUX n remove all shits from the PEN then restart to Win XP.why is that???:rolleyes:

[Anusha]

these days i'm heavily suffered by viruses,trojan horses etc etc etc etc.u know wat i do before plugging my PEN drive to win XP after going home first thing is log in to LINUX n remove all shits from the PEN then restart to Win XP.why is that???:rolleyes:
How do you remove viruses from pen drive from Linux?

[madurax86]

Well, it's the detected vulnerabilities that matter. How can someone exploit one that's impossible to find :confused:

hey man i didnt get da point correctly wut i said was virus developers make use of the vulnerabilities that r not detected by de MICROSOFT hehe coz dey r da ones hu can repair it;hehe(unlike linux)
havnt u heard dat microsoft's main server runs on linux? evn dey use it coz dey knw whts best ..linux is the best in security

[madurax86]

How do you remove viruses from pen drive from Linux?
hehe dont ask stupid Qs k? windows viruses dont run in linux; so u can remove the file dat brings up the virus or starts the virus in windows thro linux...i hav an opensuse installation; i use it freaquently it do dat ;P

[Anusha]

hey man i didnt get da point correctly wut i said was virus developers make use of the vulnerabilities that r not detected by de MICROSOFT hehe coz dey r da ones hu can repair it;hehe(unlike linux)
havnt u heard dat microsoft's main server runs on linux? evn dey use it coz dey knw whts best ..linux is the best in security
But this is not about repairing the vulnerabilities. This is about detected vulnerabilities. By whom they were detected, it doesn't matter.

[Anusha]

hehe dont ask stupid Qs k? windows viruses dont run in linux; so u can remove the file dat brings up the virus or starts the virus in windows thro linux...i hav an opensuse installation; i use it freaquently it do dat ;P
Don't give stupid answers. How the hell do you know which file is a virus and which is not?

[shan]

ammata hudu kawda ban me devoloper

[sri_lion]

"Vulnerabilities" ha..ha..ha..:lol: :lol: this is what Microsoft is so good at.... playing with words!!! I thought "BUGS" is more easier to spell and write!!

Anyway, I think you guys should stop arguing and read the article 1st, the article doesn't even give a clue about what's better Windows or Linux in fact it doesn't even touch that side!!!

This Microsoft guy says that Vista had fewer bugs than any other OS in the market within the 1st 90 days of release , I'm surprised if its not, because Vista has to learn from everybody's mistakes!!!

This is like comparing a 1980's Toyota Corolla's performance to a 2007 one!! He just says Vista had less problems within its first days than the other OS's had in their early days... of course it has to be that way cuz people pay for it!!!!

ha..ha... funny what Microsoft comes up with sometimes!!!

[Anusha]

This is like comparing a 1980's Toyota Corolla's performance to a 2007 one!! He just says Vista had less problems within its first days than the other OS's had in their early days... of course it has to be that way cuz people pay for it!!!!

ha..ha... funny what Microsoft comes up with sometimes!!!
It's not this bad :D
True. We can't compare Vista with XP or OSX. We'll see how things go with OSX Leopard ;)

[heshan123]

Thanks 4 the news bro.

[chamithal]

ohoma baladdi mac wala thiyenne lassa witharai ne?

[Anusha]

ohoma baladdi mac wala thiyenne lassa witharai ne?
No no. Mac's are fast because they are optimized for a limited hardware and they have a limited number of software. But that limit is a problem.

[chamithal]

No no. Mac's are fast because they are optimized for a limited hardware and they have a limited number of software. But that limit is a problem.

eth machan ea limited scope ekadi honda performance mara widihatma thiyenawa! for instance... Final Cut Pro... While most of the other s/w in PCs(Windows) crash when working with 3 or more clips simultaneously, an apples runs smooth even with 10 videos! (Yup, Final cut pro is designed for apples hardware.. but c... it works ne..)

[gayannr]

Don't give stupid answers. How the hell do you know which file is a virus and which is not?

most of latest viruses/Trojan horses can be easily removed coz they generate unfamiliar .EXE s and autorun.inf s and also Desktop.inf s.since ur Pen Drive is <4GB(most people have 1,2GB(mine 1GB) u can easily recognize what has been added to ur Drive without ur intention.thats d way i do with virusus.:yes: :yes:

[Anusha]

most of latest viruses/Trojan horses can be easily removed coz they generate unfamiliar .EXE s and autorun.inf s and also Desktop.inf s.since ur Pen Drive is <4GB(most people have 1,2GB(mine 1GB) u can easily recognize what has been added to ur Drive without ur intention.thats d way i do with virusus.:yes: :yes:
But why can't you do that from Windows? :confused:

[shanX]

most of latest viruses/Trojan horses can be easily removed coz they generate unfamiliar .EXE s and autorun.inf s and also Desktop.inf s.since ur Pen Drive is <4GB(most people have 1,2GB(mine 1GB) u can easily recognize what has been added to ur Drive without ur intention.thats d way i do with virusus.:yes: :yes:
Yeah, viruses cud be detected rnning @ Windows Task Manager ;) or by seeing unfamiliar files, specially exe's

[Anusha]

Yeah, viruses cud be detected rnning @ Windows Task Manager ;) or by seeing unfamiliar files, specially exe's
Oh! Seeing them is taskmanager means you're already infected ne? :shocked:

[shanX]

Oh! Seeing them is taskmanager means you're already infected ne? :shocked:
Heh heh yeah, whn infected :D Repair, Delete or Quarantine :lol:

:lol: So keep watchin for unfamiliar files and turn on the 6th sense to know which file is a virus and which is not :D

Coz there are a lot ppl out there with their pc's with hundreds of startup apps, of which they hav no idea..

[Anusha]

Heh heh yeah, whn infected :D Repair, Delete or Quarantine :lol:

:lol: So keep watchin for unfamiliar files and turn on the 6th sense to know which file is a virus and which is not :D

Coz there are a lot ppl out there with their pc's with hundreds of startup apps, of which they hav no idea..
Unless it hasn't already done the damage, like deleting all the files in the hard drive :D

[lasanka]

i still think microsoft is better than the rest therefore even though im not usin vista i fink its wayy better than linux etc!

[shanX]

Unless it hasn't already done the damage, like deleting all the files in the hard drive :D
Not every virus does tht :D

Anyway, turn on the 6th sense to know which file is a virus and which is not, keep watchin for unfamiliar files :D

[gayannr]

But why can't you do that from Windows? :confused:

coz autorun.inf.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Anusha]

coz autorun.inf.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
But you can disable it.
Anyway, in Vista, we don't have that problem. We can manually change autoplay options. ;) Damn! I've already forgotten XP :D

[gayannr]

But you can disable it.
Anyway, in Vista, we don't have that problem. We can manually change autoplay options. ;) Damn! I've already forgotten XP :D

yep in Win XP we can also manually change autoplay option.dont try dat hard.Just press Shift key wen u insert ur PEN or CD/DVD into ur PC.Autorun Will b disabled.:D

[gayannr]

But you can disable it.
Anyway, in Vista, we don't have that problem. We can manually change autoplay options. ;) Damn! I've already forgotten XP :D

not only autorun.inf but dat unfamiliar .EXEs if u suddenly D.Click one of those!

[Anusha]

yep in Win XP we can also manually change autoplay option.dont try dat hard.Just press Shift key wen u insert ur PEN or CD/DVD into ur PC.Autorun Will b disabled.:D
Yes, but i always forget to press the shift key and most of the times it didn't work. Problem with my timing :D

The shift key thingy doesn't work in Vista. It has a somewhat better system level autoplay menu. It's safer than XP's.

[Hustle]

thx dude

[ICE]

i still think microsoft is better than the rest therefore even though im not usin vista i fink its wayy better than linux etc!


Well!! Deciding whether Linux or windows is better completely depends on the circumstances.

[gayannr]

Well!! Deciding whether Linux or windows is better completely depends on the circumstances.

yup you are correct.I've got OpenSuSe10.1 +WinXP+Vista 32-bit(Genuine) +Running Ubuntu(Virtual Machine) altogether coz i use them to satisfy my various needs:yes: :yes:

[gayannr]

the most security risk dat i face with are Viruses like things.Linux is best for that prob!

[Anusha]

the most security risk dat i face with are Viruses like things.Linux is best for that prob!
You can switch to a standard user account instead of using an admin account.
The default user in Linux is standard user ne?

[ICE]

Linux is also more stable.

U only need to restart a linux machine for kernal updates.

[gayannr]

You can switch to a standard user account instead of using an admin account.
The default user in Linux is standard user ne?

i didnt get ur point that u related UAC to this.however in OpenSuSe u can set de default user to be ADMIN;)

[Anusha]

i didnt get ur point that u related UAC to this.however in OpenSuSe u can set de default user to be ADMIN;)
I wasn't talking about UAC. You can do your normal work in a standard user account. Then XP is very less vulnerable to malicious software, because they can't do hard to the system (can't touch the registry, can't alter any system file etc. etc.)

[Anusha]

Linux is also more stable.

U only need to restart a linux machine for kernal updates.
Some people told me otherwise :D

[gayannr]

I wasn't talking about UAC. You can do your normal work in a standard user account. Then XP is very less vulnerable to malicious software, because they can't do hard to the system (can't touch the registry, can't alter any system file etc. etc.)

in Linux although u r logged as root u have to provide ur pwd for certain kind of things like u mentioned earlier(That is not with XP)

[gayannr]

Linux is also more stable.

U only need to restart a linux machine for kernal updates.

yup.that stability must be the reason for even Microsoft to run a Linux Server:yes:

[Anusha]

yup.that stability must be the reason for even Microsoft to run a Linux Server:yes:
Even if they are running a Linux server, which I'm not sure of, they must be running in command prompt. Linux is not more stable than Windows with GUI. :D

[Anusha]

in Linux although u r logged as root u have to provide ur pwd for certain kind of things like u mentioned earlier(That is not with XP)
Yeah. But it's there in Vista. Besides, there are a lot of other user levels in Windows. Only Admin and Standard user is visible in control panel.

[gayannr]

Even if they are running a Linux server, which I'm not sure of, they must be running in command prompt. Linux is not more stable than Windows with GUI. :D

may be UNIX shell however Great Bill Gates has skipped :lol: from his own Track.

[gayannr]

Yeah. But it's there in Vista. Besides, there are a lot of other user levels in Windows. Only Admin and Standard user is visible in control panel.

In vista its just a notification to ask whether u wanna continue or not,not Advanced Authentication ne?

[ICE]

Even if they are running a Linux server, which I'm not sure of, they must be running in command prompt. Linux is not more stable than Windows with GUI. :D

Servers are meant run on command line.

So the resources which will be allocated for running a GUI can be allocated to run additional application.

I dont think windows can do it.

[gayannr]

Servers are meant run on command line.

So the resources which will be allocated for running a GUI can be allocated to run additional application.

I dont think windows can do it.

:yes: :yes: :yes:

[Nero]

thx 4 th info

[Anusha]

In vista its just a notification to ask whether u wanna continue or not,not Advanced Authentication ne?
If you are a standard user, you have to put an admin password. There isn't any risk in not putting the password, because in secure desktop, nothing can attack the system.

[Anusha]

Servers are meant run on command line.

So the resources which will be allocated for running a GUI can be allocated to run additional application.

I dont think windows can do it.
But in classic theme, Windows hardly uses any resources.

[amila325]

hey man i didnt get da point correctly wut i said was virus developers make use of the vulnerabilities that r not detected by de MICROSOFT hehe coz dey r da ones hu can repair it;hehe(unlike linux)
havnt u heard dat microsoft's main server runs on linux? evn dey use it coz dey knw whts best ..linux is the best in security
wow i never knew this thing dude thanx for the info

[amila325]

But why can't you do that from Windows? :confused:
ok anusha can you say how can i get my folder options back IT WAS in the tools menu now phew..!! it's gone wht happen :lol: :lol: can you suggest something

[amila325]

If you are a standard user, you have to put an admin password. There isn't any risk in not putting the password, because in secure desktop, nothing can attack the system.
ekath ahemada ane manda api kochchara password dammath windows walata (admin pass) ewa kadannath kattiya dannawane :yes: ane manda security hodada kiyala windows wala

[amila325]

Well!! Deciding whether Linux or windows is better completely depends on the circumstances.
yeah you are right now im using ubuntu and in these days im installing windows softwares in ubuntu like microsoft office :D :D :D ill put some screen shots in near future :D

[ICE]

yeah you are right now im using ubuntu and in these days im installing windows softwares in ubuntu like microsoft office :D :D :D ill put some screen shots in near future :D


Try installing SINHALA Unicodes too.......

http://sinhala.linux.lk/enabling-sinhala

[dineitdark]

Microsoft security strategy director Jeff Jones this week published a report comparing the security vulnerability profile for various high-profile operating systems in the 90 days of their existence. Surprisingly, Vista came out in front: Vista had 5 vulnerabilities in its first 90 days, one of them fixed, and one pending with a High severity rating. By comparison, XP had a total of 17 vulnerabilities in its first 90 days, 8 of which were rated High, when it shipped in 2001.

The surprises, however, come when you compare the non-Microsoft competition. Mac OS X 10.4, a darling of the press, actually suffered from 20 vulnerabilities in its first 90 days, 8 of which were rated High. Worse, OS X 10.4 still suffered from 17 publicly disclosed but unpatched vulnerabilities at the end of those 90 days. "The data doesn't support [Apple's] marketing," Jones writes. Linux fared even worse: Ubuntu 6.06 suffered from a whopping 71 vulnerabilities in its first 90 days, 27 of those rated High. And there were at least 29 unpatched vulnerabilities in that OS after the 90 day period ended. And so on. You can read the entire report (PDF), and look forward, as I am, to Jones' 6-month and 1-year updates.

View: Report (http://www.csoonline.com/pdf/Vista_Vuln_Report.pdf) (.pdf)
News source: WindowsIT Pro (http://www.windowsitpro.com/Articles/ArticleID/95554/95554.html?Ad=1)

so what? that doesn't mean that vista is secure than linux at all!!! why are u ppl so ignorant???

1.vista n OSx is closed source so it is much harder to discover vanus. but linux is open source and a lot of people do read the code so more vanus are discovered so quickly(which is very very very good!)

2. More vanus discovered mean less vanus remaining. where in closed OS... there are so many vanus waiting to be discovered officially, but moving fast in the underground ;)
and making money for the bot owners + spammers... and the like

3.ubuntu have a LOT of programs bundled in it when compared to other OSs... and that stuff includes all the servers, music players, OOffice, Blender(3D ani...).....etc so it is very normal for it to have this number of vanus discovered!!! cause its not the just the linux kernel but all of the programs in the OS which is a very large number!.

4. I don't know why most of the ppl still don't get it.... if u use vista then may god bless you. cause you are pawned in no time! but i know that still most of you will use MS stuff... well thats how the world goes, truth is not known to everyone.

Most of you choose the wrong pill ;)

Linux rocks, MS should be doing better marketing, this is funny shit!!! haha :lol:

[dineitdark]

How do you remove viruses from pen drive from Linux?
by using a virus scanner dude! ex: Kclaim (i may have misspelled this :) )

[dineitdark]

Well, it's the detected vulnerabilities that matter. How can someone exploit one that's impossible to find :confused:
dude there are so many vanus in the wild out there! bad guys get to know about em much earlyir than the good guys... and MS.. oh well they get to know it even after the good guys... they will never give a fair rating to a bug... and they will try to hide stuff as much as possible.

and you know what? there are ppl who are way smarter than any ass in MS out there, and they do know of the zero day vanus....

shit... man if vanus aren't exploited just because they are not yet officially discovered... most of the serious stuff would have never happen in the info sec world...

[dineitdark]

Wonder how people get so many viruses. I've only had one infection and it was in 1998. No harm has come my way ever since. I come across trojans once in a while, but that too if I look for a crack.
hmmm... may be you don't know what you have? :) who knows..

[dineitdark]

eth machan ea limited scope ekadi honda performance mara widihatma thiyenawa! for instance... Final Cut Pro... While most of the other s/w in PCs(Windows) crash when working with 3 or more clips simultaneously, an apples runs smooth even with 10 videos! (Yup, Final cut pro is designed for apples hardware.. but c... it works ne..)
if u didn't know you can optimiz linux for almost any hardware out there... cause you can get the source and compile it just to fit your hardware.... its the perfect OS then....

[dineitdark]

Yeah. But it's there in Vista. Besides, there are a lot of other user levels in Windows. Only Admin and Standard user is visible in control panel.
yeah like the hidden user accounts... thats a another bug dude!

[dineitdark]

I wasn't talking about UAC. You can do your normal work in a standard user account. Then XP is very less vulnerable to malicious software, because they can't do hard to the system (can't touch the registry, can't alter any system file etc. etc.)
*nix systems have user permissions built in to the system from the ground up unlike windows... this is one of main reasons that linux is much much safer than windows

[dineitdark]

But in classic theme, Windows hardly uses any resources.
oh really? lol! when compared with windows it self i guess, it surely not 'hardly any' when u compare it with linux!!!!

[Anusha]

*nix systems have user permissions built in to the system from the ground up unlike windows... this is one of main reasons that linux is much much safer than windows
UAC is ground up alright, but we'll have to wait for all the software to give pleasant experiences with it. If the programs are coded well, UAC should hardly prompt.

[Anusha]

yeah like the hidden user accounts... thats a another bug dude!
Bug? :rolleyes:
That is just to hide the unwanted stuff from n00bs :D

[Anusha]

hmmm... may be you don't know what you have? :) who knows..
I know what I have. You stay away from crack sites and p0rn sites, and 99.999% of virus infections won't happen. By using a reputed web mail like gmail, infections from emails won't happen either.

[Michael]

I Started Using Vista Too. :yes: Superb OS

[Anusha]

if u didn't know you can optimiz linux for almost any hardware out there... cause you can get the source and compile it just to fit your hardware.... its the perfect OS then....
You mean compile to the instruction set such as those private Firefox/Thunderbird builds?

[Anusha]

I Started Using Vista Too. :yes: Superb OS
I wouldn't call it bug free. Hell no! There are certain things that I don't like in it, overall, it's better than XP for me. (and way better than Linux in terms of usability)

[dineitdark]

UAC is ground up alright, but we'll have to wait for all the software to give pleasant experiences with it. If the programs are coded well, UAC should hardly prompt.
i don't know about UAC, no idea about it. but i know that most of the software never get well coded for a fact! especially the ones that runs in windows platform.

[Anusha]

i don't know about UAC, no idea about it. but i know that most of the software never get well coded for a fact! especially the ones that runs in windows platform.
I don't know what you meant by that. However, the newer releases of certain software comply with UAC and give a better experience overall.

[dineitdark]

Bug? :rolleyes:
That is just to hide the unwanted stuff from n00bs :D
haha... MS seems to think that everyone are n00bs like em! but thats not the truth. go to the MS web site and search for this hidden user vanu... that default admin login in XP remmebmer?

now its fixed yeah, but a lot of people(like toshiba added two accounts with some defult passwords to my laps XP installation!) do add hidden accounts when the box leaves the factory.... so its not secure at all!

[dineitdark]

I know what I have. You stay away from crack sites and p0rn sites, and 99.999% of virus infections won't happen. By using a reputed web mail like gmail, infections from emails won't happen either.
i wouldn't make it 99.999! it would make it 85%... there are bots scanning the whole net all the time!

[Novindu]

hmmm thx for da info.....its 2 bad i still din get ta use vista:(

[dineitdark]

You mean compile to the instruction set such as those private Firefox/Thunderbird builds?
you get the source code(the source trees/CVS...etc etc) and then you compile the source with all the options to optimize it to your box. its like u know what processor you have so you can compile the program to run on that exact processor, which will make it not run on other possessors... but at the same time it will be taking all the advantages of your processor, its instructions set, special registers... or what ever feature that it have...

eventually giving the best out of your hardware. every drop of it will be utilized.

[dineitdark]

I don't know what you meant by that. However, the newer releases of certain software comply with UAC and give a better experience overall.
simply most of the windows app programmers have poor coding discipline than there *nix counter parts.

[Anusha]

haha... MS seems to think that everyone are n00bs like em! but thats not the truth. go to the MS web site and search for this hidden user vanu... that default admin login in XP remmebmer?

now its fixed yeah, but a lot of people(like toshiba added two accounts with some defult passwords to my laps XP installation!) do add hidden accounts when the box leaves the factory.... so its not secure at all!
Isn't your idea: "you configure your own stuff"? :rolleyes:

[shanX]

ok anusha can you say how can i get my folder options back IT WAS in the tools menu now phew..!! it's gone wht happen :lol: :lol: can you suggest something
:D Virus, all my frnds got this

McAfee didnt detect this, Norton did :D

[shanX]

I know what I have. You stay away from crack sites and p0rn sites, and 99.999% of virus infections won't happen. By using a reputed web mail like gmail, infections from emails won't happen either.


Yes exactly, 100% true, Well said ! This is how i also keep my pc clean

:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

[dineitdark]

Isn't your idea: "you configure your own stuff"? :rolleyes:
no what i am tiring to say is MS why are you so stupid? :D adding default user accounts with default passwords so that any ass can get in to your machine is really dumb! its not some pre configuration. its just for the ease of the support personnel.... i don't wanna loose ma security because some dumb ass is too lazy!

and windows allows this kinds of shit...

[Anusha]

Those accounts are for configuration purposes. If Linux came preinstalled with PCs, they will also have such accounts :rolleyes:

[dineitdark]

linux does come pre installed in many PCs n laps, but no they don't have accounts like that. its ultra insane to have them! only some dumb company with "easy to SUPPORT" moto will do something like that...