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Anusha
03-28-2007, 07:45 AM
Asus and Gigabyte Cease Gigabyte United Proceedings

Asustek Computer and Gigabyte Technology, two leading suppliers of computer hardware from
Taiwan, have announced cancellation of the joint-venture between the two companies. It is believed that the companies decided to shelve the joint venture that would control over the largest part of the global mainboard market after emergence of internal opposition and outside pressure.

In August, 2006, Asus and Gigabyte agreed to form a joint-venture, which would produce mainboards and graphics cards under Gigabyte brand-name. Under the terms of the agreement, Gigabyte itself should cease production of mainboards and graphics cards, whereas Asus would continue to ship its products to the market. Gigabyte would control 51% of the newly-formed Gigabyte United company, while Asustek would have 49% stake in the joint-venture.

However, Asustek reportedly delayed to remit approximately NT$4 billion ($241.8 million, €181.2 million) of investments into the company that started to operate on the 1st of January, 2007. In addition to Asustek’s strange business behaviour, the new joint-venture also faced some other problems, which included internal opposition, pressure from clients who wanted to ensure consistent new products development by Gigabyte and possible violation of European antitrust laws.

As a result of the break up between the two companies, Gigabyte United will become a fully-owned subsidiary of Gigabyte Technology, which emphasized during a press conference that the computer hardware giant has no plans to sell of its mainboard/graphics cards division or find another partner for this business unit, reports China Economic News Service. Gigabyte earlier admitted that it used to be a target for acquisition by Foxconn Group, one of the world’s largest producer of electronics.

Competition in the markets of mainboards, graphics cards and other equipment of this kind is very fierce these days and establishing a joint venture which would control over lion’s share of the motherboards market might lessen price war between the players. But while there is a distinct trend towards merges between companies in those markets, channel players and other participants of the PC supply chain might not want to give Asus monopoly control over the market.

thusithagh
03-28-2007, 08:35 AM
oh no i was hoping that it would succeed.

Anusha
03-28-2007, 08:43 AM
oh no i was hoping that it would succeed.
I hoped it wouldn't. Less competitiveness = less innovation.

gayannr
03-28-2007, 08:50 AM
Why Asus and GB.Highquality vs:angry: low quality

thusithagh
03-28-2007, 08:50 AM
I hoped it wouldn't. Less competitiveness = less innovation.
but better products 4 low cost....

gayannr
03-28-2007, 08:59 AM
i dont like this combination

Anusha
03-28-2007, 09:00 AM
Why Asus and GB.Highquality vs:angry: low quality
That's where you've made the mistake. Both manufacturers make crappy products as well as shear masterpieces. Gigabyte is more innovative than Asus in most cases. Asus doesn't necessarily deliver better performance than Gigabyte.

Anusha
03-28-2007, 09:01 AM
but better products 4 low cost....
Better? Without innovation, how could there be better products? Monopoly will do us no good.

Anusha
03-28-2007, 09:02 AM
i dont like this combination
True. It's like ATI and nVidia getting together to build an empire against S3, SIS, XGI, Intel etc. :D

gayannr
03-28-2007, 09:20 AM
That's where you've made the mistake. Both manufacturers make crappy products as well as shear masterpieces. Gigabyte is more innovative than Asus in most cases. Asus doesn't necessarily deliver better performance than Gigabyte.

but durability with gb is less than asus no?

Anusha
03-28-2007, 09:28 AM
but durability with gb is less than asus no?
Not the highend motherboards. Gigabyte D class motherboards (eg: 965P-DS3, 965P-DQ6) use solid state capacitors and components and are few of the most durable motherboards with excellent performance. They even have 8 phase or 12 phase power supplies with excellent power stability.

gayannr
03-28-2007, 09:35 AM
Not the highend motherboards. Gigabyte D class motherboards (eg: 965P-DS3, 965P-DQ6) use solid state capacitors and components and are few of the most durable motherboards with excellent performance. They even have 8 phase or 12 phase power supplies with excellent power stability.

solid state capacitors are now also comes with asus ne? and asus boards comes with 8 phase power design.but after GB invented those no?:yes:

Anusha
03-28-2007, 09:38 AM
solid state capacitors are now also comes with asus ne? and asus boards comes with 8 phase power design.but after GB invented those no?:yes:
Yes, Gigabyte invented them and we can think that they have mastered in them. Asus only have 8 phase power regulators and only on highend models. Gigabyte has 8 phase power regulators in midrange motherboards as well. They have 12 phase regulators on highend models.

I also thought I will never like Gigabyte after seeing several motherboards fail a year or two ago. But they have somehow overcome that dark period and now seems to make superb motherboards.

gayannr
03-28-2007, 09:48 AM
Yes, Gigabyte invented them and we can think that they have mastered in them. Asus only have 8 phase power regulators and only on highend models. Gigabyte has 8 phase power regulators in midrange motherboards as well. They have 12 phase regulators on highend models.

I also thought I will never like Gigabyte after seeing several motherboards fail a year or two ago. But they have somehow overcome that dark period and now seems to make superb motherboards.


as my past always hurt me about GB.i dont feel like going again with GB.:( :(

Anusha
03-28-2007, 10:08 AM
as my past always hurt me about GB.i dont feel like going again with GB.:( :(
Well, if EPSI wasn't so bad at their pricing :rolleyes:

ashan_ok
03-28-2007, 10:21 AM
thnx 4 d info bro!!!!!!

gayannr
03-28-2007, 01:02 PM
what abt MSI and ABIT,i think we cant buy ABIT in LK.:rolleyes:

Anusha
03-28-2007, 01:06 PM
what abt MSI and ABIT,i think we cant buy ABIT in LK.:rolleyes:
MSI is OK, but their Intel boards doesn't have much features as the others offer. ABIT has excellent boards too, Quad GT and AW9 I think.

gayannr
03-28-2007, 01:18 PM
ASUS always advertise that they have much bandwidth in their products

Anusha
03-28-2007, 01:19 PM
ASUS always advertise that they have much bandwidth in their products
Hehe. Wonder where they have so much bandwidth :D

gayannr
03-28-2007, 01:25 PM
Hehe. Wonder where they have so much bandwidth :D

but i have experienced that with ASUS VGAs perform better than other Brands that have the same chipset(most likely to be STLABS(i prefer call them unbranded-coz i've got two blown VGAs of them n i hate :growl: :growl: buying STLABS))

Anusha
03-28-2007, 01:27 PM
but i have experienced that with ASUS VGAs perform better than other Brands that have the same chipset(most likely to be STLABS(i prefer call them unbranded-coz i've got two blown VGAs of them n i hate :growl: :growl: buying STLABS))
Well, you can't compare ASUS and a no-name brands.

gayannr
03-28-2007, 01:37 PM
Well, you can't compare ASUS and a no-name brands.

thats not no name men.unity is full of these junks:confused:
its STLAB

Anusha
03-28-2007, 01:39 PM
thats not no name men.unity is full of these junks:confused:
its STLAB
Well, I wasn't talking about Sri Lankan people's categorization of no-name or named brands. International market doesn't identify these as brand names.

gayannr
03-28-2007, 01:45 PM
Well, I wasn't talking about Sri Lankan people's categorization of no-name or named brands. International market doesn't identify these as brand names.
but here in LK these junks are sold than branded.coz they may offer twice the memory as branded cards for less price than branded ones.that why they have a market here unless otherwise they are just junks.:yes: :yes:

Anusha
03-28-2007, 01:51 PM
but here in LK these junks are sold than branded.coz they may offer twice the memory as branded cards for less price than branded ones.that why they have a market here unless otherwise they are just junks.:yes: :yes:
Sri Lankan people are stupid. They think having 256MB or 512MB VRAM will let them play any game out there. :rolleyes:
These resellers are taking full advantage of this situation.

gayannr
03-28-2007, 01:54 PM
Sri Lankan people are stupid. They think having 256MB or 512MB VRAM will let them play any game out there. :rolleyes:
These resellers are taking full advantage of this situation.
ya i agree they have much less fill rates than branded cards(when it comes to ASUS they have the highest fill rate as i know)
then it takes much time to fill up that memory.but the branded one does that much quickly.so the less momory one performs better.isnt it?:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Anusha
03-28-2007, 01:59 PM
ya i agree they have much less fill rates than branded cards(when it comes to ASUS they have the highest fill rate as i know)
then it takes much time to fill up that memory.but the branded one does that much quickly.so the less momory one performs better.isnt it?:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Fill rate = clock speed x pixel pipelines. (it's not that simple with DirectX 10 cards though)

So it's the clock speed which is the variable. You know, nVidia 8800GTS (reference) is slightly faster than ASUS 8800GTS at same clock speeds. (500/800x2) It's not the fillrate that makes them faster. It's the other electronics such as using high quality components. Some people don't stick to the reference design, so their circuits might give better or worse performance than the reference design.

gayannr
03-28-2007, 02:02 PM
Fill rate = clock speed x pixel pipelines. (it's not that simple with DirectX 10 cards though)

So it's the clock speed which is the variable. You know, nVidia 8800GTS (reference) is slightly faster than ASUS 8800GTS at same clock speeds. (500/800x2) It's not the fillrate that makes them faster. It's the other electronics such as using high quality components. Some people don't stick to the reference design, so their circuits might give better or worse performance than the reference design.

i wonder why dont nVidia make their own GPU boards as like ATI used to be few years ago.

Anusha
03-28-2007, 02:05 PM
i wonder why dont nVidia make their own GPU boards as like ATI used to be few years ago.
Well, ATI never made boards. BUILT BY ATI boards were actually built by Sapphire. All the others are POWERED BY ATI.

gayannr
03-28-2007, 02:10 PM
Well, ATI never made boards. BUILT BY ATI boards were actually built by Sapphire. All the others are POWERED BY ATI.
but i thought ATI never revealed it to the public.and they did it like their own
i read it from an article on the web few years ago

Anusha
03-28-2007, 02:13 PM
but i thought ATI never revealed it to the public.and they did it like their own
i read it from an article on the web few years ago
It's not a secret. :D
http://www.digital-daily.com/editorial/sapphire_ati/

gayannr
03-28-2007, 02:16 PM
what abt BFGtech.i've seen most VGA benchmarks use BFG tech boards

Anusha
03-28-2007, 02:18 PM
what abt BFGtech.i've seen most VGA benchmarks use BFG tech boards
It's a reputed brand name. Usually they and also some other 2nd tier manufacturers such as XFX offer heavily overclocked cards, still with lower price than tier-1 brands. Very good value for money.

gayannr
03-28-2007, 02:25 PM
what about physics card.i know them little

Anusha
03-28-2007, 02:31 PM
what about physics card.i know them little
Well, they don't necessarily improve the performance. Only the physics calculations will be relieved from the CPU. It let's you use more polygons. But the problem is, it's not the CPU that's bottlenecked most of the times. It's the video card. So a physics accelerator can't speed things up.
But future graphics cards will have physics processing capabilities. Then we won't need a physics accelerator card. :D

gayannr
03-28-2007, 02:35 PM
Well, they don't necessarily improve the performance. Only the physics calculations will be relieved from the CPU. It let's you use more polygons. But the problem is, it's not the CPU that's bottlenecked most of the times. It's the video card. So a physics accelerator can't speed things up.
But future graphics cards will have physics processing capabilities. Then we won't need a physics accelerator card. :D
Thanks for the info men..:D

fazaal24
03-28-2007, 03:18 PM
i dnt care....lollzzz

thanks 4 da info

Hustle
03-28-2007, 03:54 PM
oh no i was hoping that it would succeed.
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