Ubuntu Linux Coming to Dell PCs

[Anusha]

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w224/anushand/fp__Ubuntu.pngUbuntu will officially be the first Linux distribution offered by Dell

Once Dell confirmed that it would offer the Linux operating system on select PCs in the future, Linux enthusiasts anxiously awaited the announcement of which Linux distributions would be offered. Dell today announced that it would preinstall the Ubuntu operating system on some PC and notebook models.

Canoncial, the lead sponsor behind the Ubuntu project, has started working on the operating system to ensure that it will properly work on Dell PCs and notebooks. "Dell are going to work with us to make sure Ubuntu works fully on its hardware," said Chris Keynon, director of business development for Ubuntu.

Along with appealing to popular demand, the computer company will likely save money by stripping out the cost of purchasing the operating system license from Microsoft. It appears that OS support would be provided by the open source and Linux communities, while Dell would exclusively provide hardware support.

Michael Dell previously disclosed that he has Ubuntu installed on his personal laptop.

Dell has not announced models, configurations or prices of PCs and notebooks that will feature Ubuntu. Dell also did not eliminate the possibility of other Linux distributions being installed on future product lines.

Linux fans hope that Dell embracing Linux will begin a shift in which more PC vendors will switch to open source technology.

[madurax86]

naraka naa
habai OpenSuse hari Debian hari Alienware ekka enawa nam thama hoda!!:yes:

[chaminga_d]

I think this is a huge loss for Apple. Apple had the chance to be "the" alternative OS by allowing Dell and HP to load OS X on their machines, but now that place is about to be usurped by Ubuntu Linux.

Yeah, yeah, Apple says it's a hardware company first. Blah, blah, blah. They're just selling repackaged pretty PCs that happen to run a very nice OS. If they just let someone else build the Mac/PCs to their specs and kept their own branded hardware at a premium, they could have made a killing selling just the OS. There's this one company that did that, Micro-something or other...

Oh well, sounds like Ubuntu has a bright future ahead of it. :)

[prasadana2]

wow..

[Anusha]

naraka naa
habai OpenSuse hari Debian hari Alienware ekka enawa nam thama hoda!!:yes:
That will never happen. Alienware PCs are gaming PCs and Linux is not a Gaming OS. I think they are giving only Vista.

[madurax86]

That will never happen. Alienware PCs are gaming PCs and Linux is not a Gaming OS. I think they are giving only Vista.

hey hu told dat??? .. linux is bettr 4 gamin dan windows !...da prob is dat gaming for linux is at a early stage if u want goto tuxgames.com ...vista eats memory ne.....how can u game wit dat? n unlike directx opengl is easier to program wit(i hav personal experience) ...dats y i used opegl for my calculator

[elakirisasika]

UBUNTU ?? Not Bad

But Not as good as Susse Linux 10 :yes: :yes: :yes:

[Anusha]

hey hu told dat??? .. linux is bettr 4 gamin dan windows !...da prob is dat gaming for linux is at a early stage if u want goto tuxgames.com ...vista eats memory ne.....how can u game wit dat? n unlike directx opengl is easier to program wit(i hav personal experience) ...dats y i used opegl for my calculator
Ok, try playing games on Linux then.

[elakirisasika]

Ok, try playing games on Linux then.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[elakirisasika]

Aparade suuse danna thibune

[Anusha]

Aparade suuse danna thibune
Why don't u use it then?

[elakirisasika]

Why don't u use it then?


I will, Soon (Better than Vista :yes: , But can't play games :( :( )

Dual boot daanawa - XP N Susse 10

[Anusha]

I will, Soon (Better than Vista :yes: , But can't play games :( :( )

Dual boot daanawa - XP N Susse 10
Good luck with that :P

[elakirisasika]

Good luck with that :P


Thanx Bro and same to you with your VISTA :D :D :D :D

ME :P :P :P Kiyanne mokakda?????

[Anusha]

Thanx Bro and same to you with your VISTA :D :D :D :D

ME :P :P :P Kiyanne mokakda?????
I don't need luck with Vista, because I've been using it for almost 6 months now. (exclusing the betas and RCs)

Type :P in Windows Messenger and you'll know.

[elakirisasika]

I don't need luck with Vista, because I've been using it for almost 6 months now. (exclusing the betas and RCs)

Type :P in Windows Messenger and you'll know.


I Don't use it Mokakda me :P

[MCLINER]

wow eLA

[chaminga_d]

Ok, try playing games on Linux then.

Why Not?

[Anusha]

Why Not?
You too then

[chaminga_d]

You too then

If We Want to Use .exe in Linux we can Use Wine... Other thing is OpenGL is Nice as DirectX

[chaminga_d]

Check out These two Sites....

http://www.linux-gamers.net
http://www.linuxgames.com/

[madurax86]

If We Want to Use .exe in Linux we can Use Wine... Other thing is OpenGL is Nice as DirectX

WRONG! OpenGL is better dan DirectX [R]
y?
OpenGL's concepts r understandable by all..so simple
OpenGL supports NO business therefore they dont hav updates when new hardware comes out -dey hav only real software updates
Dey Do NOT favour ny kinda GPU type[etc nVidia, ATI..]
--guess wht microsoft's own support for directx 9 in VB6 is lower dan OpenGL's support for the same programin lang.[i hav personal experience]
dats y i used OpenGL wen developin ma calc
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/3/28/933147/Setup.zip
**WINE's gaming port has now successfully ported Max Payne II and sum othr games to Linux--OpenGL handles evrything n more dat directX handled

[Anusha]

If We Want to Use .exe in Linux we can Use Wine... Other thing is OpenGL is Nice as DirectX
No it's not as nice as DirectX.

[madurax86]

No it's not as nice as DirectX.

believing is not da ryt way man
da gud is seperated frm da bad by evidence

[chaminga_d]

No it's not as nice as DirectX.

http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/d3d-vs-opengl.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Direct3D_and_OpenGL
http://www.gamedev.net/reference/articles/article1775.asp

Read These Articles and get Clear Understand about Those two...

[Anusha]

believing is not da ryt way man
da gud is seperated frm da bad by evidence
I want to tell you the same.

[zCexVe]

If We Want to Use .exe in Linux we can Use Wine... Other thing is OpenGL is Nice as DirectXthere are two others better than wine.But one is commercial.

[Anusha]

http://www.xmission.com/~legalize/d3d-vs-opengl.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Direct3D_and_OpenGL
http://www.gamedev.net/reference/articles/article1775.asp

Read These Articles and get Clear Understand about Those two...
They only compare old DirectX models. Not even DX9 and definitely not DX10.

[Anusha]

Check this out:
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/487/1/

Wait few seconds. There are two portions on all the images. When you move the mouse over them, they will show how DX10 will look like.

[zCexVe]

OpenGL is better than DirectX.IMHO.ppl think direct X is better coz
1.Many use that.
2.ATI dont knw how to write drivers for OpenGL.
3.nVidia writes drivers only to surpass ATIs and hang on with MS.

[madurax86]

I want to tell you the same.
but i told it first HEHE

u knw Intel n nVidia r da only card makers i knw dat offers OpenGL support frm hardware level

[madurax86]

They only compare old DirectX models. Not even DX9 and definitely not DX10.

well tell me atleast ten main differences between DX8.1 AND DX9 ...it would b hard to find evn 5 hehe like most ms stuf its just da shell no updates to da CORE!....u knw dere r registry values stil in da windows registry dat say da windows version is 3.1 HEHHHHEE if u dont laugh 4 dat wht kinda stuf du u laugh at??

[chamithal]

Ela ela!!!! Ubuntu habai hitapu gaman pissu natanawa! math dala thibila ayin kare ekay!! dan nam hard eka nathi handa inneth ubuntu live cd ekaka!!! Eth.. Mmm... Ubuntu godak aya use karaddi thawa aul hadei!! ethakota sira!!!!!!!!! mama ethakota ayith ubuntu danawa!

[gayannr]

UBUNTU-Linux For Human Beings

[Anusha]

but i told it first HEHE

u knw Intel n nVidia r da only card makers i knw dat offers OpenGL support frm hardware level
ATI don't support Opengl in hardware level? Jeez. Wonder how people can run Doom 3 and Quake4 on ATI cards :rolleyes:
(BTW, this is something I would laugh about)

[Anusha]

well tell me atleast ten main differences between DX8.1 AND DX9 ...it would b hard to find evn 5 hehe like most ms stuf its just da shell no updates to da CORE!....u knw dere r registry values stil in da windows registry dat say da windows version is 3.1 HEHHHHEE if u dont laugh 4 dat wht kinda stuf du u laugh at??
I only care the quality (effects) and performance.
DX9 doesn't sped up things, but allows more effects on the same hardware.

Check this out:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2281&p=2

[Anusha]

UBUNTU-Linux For Human Beings
Other distro's are for animals I suppose :rolleyes:

[madurax86]

ATI don't support Opengl in hardware level? Jeez. Wonder how people can run Doom 3 and Quake4 on ATI cards :rolleyes:
(BTW, this is something I would laugh about)

do u knw abt HAL? hardware abstraction layer ?? i was talkin abt special registers for the special effects like rendering support n GPU control :rolleyes: n y do u support ms stuf soo much ? do dey pay u? HEHE

[KishanW]

elane...

[deffa]

u can get free ubantu cd's

[Anusha]

do u knw abt HAL? hardware abstraction layer ?? i was talkin abt special registers for the special effects like rendering support n GPU control :rolleyes: n y do u support ms stuf soo much ? do dey pay u? HEHE
What does it have to do with HAL?

[The_Ace]

and isnt HAL closed source ?

[Anusha]

and isnt HAL closed source ?
Yes, but y r v now talking about HAL?

[The_Ace]

no idea. :lol:
I wanna know how HAL is related to gaming as well..

[Anusha]

no idea. :lol:
I wanna know how HAL is related to gaming as well..
Confusing.
HAL is there for every hardware. It's the API's the do whatever that they do related to gaming.

[The_Ace]

maybe the other guy who brought it up in the first place, can explain..

[Anusha]

maybe the other guy who brought it up in the first place, can explain..
I hope so.

[The_Ace]

back to the main topic :
I not much of an Ubuntu fan I would prefer if Dell made Debian to be their choice of Linux or simply support all linux version by offering the main board and peripheral whitepapers for free so that all linux disro maintainers can create the drivers for their distro

[Anusha]

Well, I don't really care what DELL does because I might never buy a DELL PC ever. If I buy one, it will be a lappie. Ubuntu on a Laptop is cool, because laptops generally are not meant for gaming.

[dineitdark]

That will never happen. Alienware PCs are gaming PCs and Linux is not a Gaming OS. I think they are giving only Vista.
without linux most of the mutiplayer games won't run. and btw linux can run all the coolest games around. you name it linux runs it.

[dineitdark]

Ok, try playing games on Linux then.
i do that everyday, and it is much much better than playing them in windows.

[Anusha]

without linux most of the mutiplayer games won't run. and btw linux can run all the coolest games around. you name it linux runs it.
Can it run Tiberium Wars? This is what I'm playing these days.

[Anusha]

i do that everyday, and it is much much better than playing them in windows.
What games do you play?

[dineitdark]

No it's not as nice as DirectX.
if you are a DirectX fan you can run DirectX in linux too.

[dineitdark]

What games do you play?
war craft, UT... thats all i play. but just go around the net and you will find a lot of people paying other games as well.

[Anusha]

war craft, UT... thats all i play. but just go around the net and you will find a lot of people paying other games as well.
UT is old and I never liked War Craft.

[dineitdark]

Can it run Tiberium Wars? This is what I'm playing these days.
i don't know. but it is possible. if all the other ways of playing it fails. you can run it in vmware ;)

[Anusha]

i don't know. but it is possible. if all the other ways of playing it fails. you can run it in vmware ;)
Playing it in VMWare? :shocked:
With that 8MB emulated graphics driver?

[dineitdark]

UT is old and I never liked War Craft.
thats your problem :) i play what i like... i am pretty sure that if you want you can get almost anything to work in linux.

[dineitdark]

Playing it in VMWare? :shocked:
With that 8MB emulated graphics driver?
thats just a idea, the 'last resort' thing... VMware now has more built in support in the linux kernel...

[Anusha]

thats your problem :) i play what i like... i am pretty sure that if you want you can get almost anything to work in linux.
Now this is the problem.
In Linux, either a game doesn't run at all, or when you finally somehow get it to work, you could have finished it 10 times in Windows.

[Anusha]

thats just a idea, the 'last resort' thing... VMware now has more built in support in the linux kernel...
It's like going back to square one.

[dineitdark]

do u knw abt HAL? hardware abstraction layer ?? i was talkin abt special registers for the special effects like rendering support n GPU control :rolleyes: n y do u support ms stuf soo much ? do dey pay u? HEHE
i have the same feeling? may be he have a advertising job in MS. who knows :D

[dineitdark]

Now this is the problem.
In Linux, either a game doesn't run at all, or when you finally somehow get it to work, you could have finished it 10 times in Windows.
when something runs in linux it runs. low memory usage, more throughput... don't get stuck... etc added benifits.

all this trial and error things are there casue these people who develop the games don't support linux. and thats there fault and not linux's fault.

[Anusha]

i have the same feeling? may be he have a advertising job in MS. who knows :D
I wish!
And I guess your hobby is to get things to work, not actually working with things.

[dineitdark]

It's like going back to square one.
oh well. there are so many ways to 'run it' i am not very much in to this. as i got what i want working. but i can tell you most of the windows programs + games run better in linux.

[dineitdark]

I wish!
And I guess your hobby is to get things to work, not actually working with things.
haha... you will get a job there don;t worry. show your attitude and be professional. thats all... its so easier to go to MS than surviving as a open source developer. best of the luck on that MS thing ;)

well what's the deference?

[Anusha]

haha... you will get a job there don;t worry. show your attitude and be professional. thats all... its so easier to go to MS than surviving as a open source developer. best of the luck on that MS thing ;)

well what's the deference?
Someone's jealous :rolleyes:

If you don't understand the difference, then no point talking about this.

You'll always say Linux is better. I'll always say Windows is better. This is going nowhere.

[dineitdark]

Someone's jealous :rolleyes:

If you don't understand the difference, then no point talking about this.

You'll always say Linux is better. I'll always say Windows is better. This is going nowhere.
whos jelous? haha... i am not jelous... i love the fun more than the money so thats why i don't wanna go the MS... way. thats ma attitude buddy! :)

and yea.. thats true... but i just can't understand you. but still i want to understand you :)

[Anusha]

whos jelous? haha... i am not jelous... i love the fun more than the money so thats why i don't wanna go the MS... way. thats ma attitude buddy! :)

and yea.. thats true... but i just can't understand you. but still i want to understand you :)
The OS a person wants to use is his/her choice. If his/her choice is good enough for his/her work, then fine. Linux can't provide what I want. If you are saying that you can emulate Windows software and work them in Linux (WINE or whatever mechanism it is), that's not good enough (for me). Still, it's running in an environment they are not supposed to run - that's my feeling. If one is fine with that, I don't care. Hell, I don't like running 32bit software in 64bit environment either. But that's unavoidable in both Linux and Windows.

I'm not saying Linux is totally crap. There are certain things that I would like to see in Windows. But those features alone can't make it better than Windows for what I expect from a system.

[madurax86]

The OS a person wants to use is his/her choice. If his/her choice is good enough for his/her work, then fine. Linux can't provide what I want. If you are saying that you can emulate Windows software and work them in Linux (WINE or whatever mechanism it is), that's not good enough (for me). Still, it's running in an environment they are not supposed to run - that's my feeling. If one is fine with that, I don't care. Hell, I don't like running 32bit software in 64bit environment either. But that's unavoidable in both Linux and Windows.

I'm not saying Linux is totally crap. There are certain things that I would like to see in Windows. But those features alone can't make it better than Windows for what I expect from a system.

dude v r not sayin u to use linux; v r sayin y linux is better dan windows no matter wht da ppl say it IS better dan windows both in graphics n software u like vista's graphics ne? chek out SUSE's new look ...it runs on OpenGL can windows run its desktop fully on DirectX?? ms copied frm suse [its tru] SUSE's open version OpenSuse 10.2 [wit da new look xgl] was out b4 vista ...i choose linux for use wit an internet conection coz deres not dat irritating word 'BUY' its free u use it u contribute it by doin sum of ur own development ---or u can jst simply use it no money.

leave all those stuf i sed jst think wher does GNUtella n da concept for mass file sharing comes

[Anusha]

or u can jst simply use it no money .
That's exactly how I use Windows.