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rapa
05-03-2007, 11:14 AM
By Ven. Ajahn Brahmavamso


Since the very beginning of Buddhism over 2500 years ago, Buddhist monks and nuns have depended on almsfood. They were, and still are, prohibited from growing their own food, storing their own provisions or cooking their own meals. Instead, every morning they would make their day's meal out of whatever was freely given to them by lay supporters. Whether it was rich food or coarse food, delicious or awful tasting it was to be accepted with gratitude and eaten regarding it as medicine. The Buddha laid down several rules forbidding monks from asking for the food that they liked. As a result, they would receive just the sort of meals that ordinary people ate - and that was often meat.

Once, a rich and influential general by the name of Siha (meaning 'Lion') went to visit the Buddha. Siha had been a famous lay supporter of the Jain monks but he was so impressed and inspired by the Teachings he heard from the Buddha that he took refuge in the Triple Gem (i.e. he became a Buddhist). General Siha then invited the Buddha, together with the large number of monks accompanying Him, to a meal at his house in the city the following morning. In preparation for the meal, Siha told one of his servants to buy some meat from the market for the feast. When the Jain monks heard of their erstwhile patron's conversion to Buddhism and the meal that he was preparing for the Buddha and the monks, they were somewhat peeved:

"Now at the time many Niganthas (Jain monks), waving their arms, were moaning from carriage road to carriage road, from cross road to cross road in the city: 'Today a fat beast, killed by Siha the general, is made into a meal for the recluse Gotama (the Buddha), the recluse Gotama makes use of this meat knowing that it was killed on purpose for him, that the deed was done for his sake'..." [1].

Siha was making the ethical distinction between buying meat already prepared for sale and ordering a certain animal to be killed, a distinction which is not obvious to many westerners but which recurs throughout the Buddha's own teachings. Then, to clarify the position on meat eating to the monks, the Buddha said:

"Monks, I allow you fish and meat that are quite pure in three respects: if they are not seen, heard or suspected to have been killed on purpose for a monk. But, you should not knowingly make use of meat killed on purpose for you." [2]

There are many places in the Buddhist scriptures which tell of the Buddha and his monks being offered meat and eating it. One of the most interesting of these passages occurs in the introductory story to a totally unrelated rule (Nissaggiya Pacittiya 5) and the observation that the meat is purely incidental to the main theme of the story emphasizes the authenticity of the passage:

Uppalavanna (meaning 'she of the lotus-like complexion') was one of the two chief female disciples of the Buddha. She was ordained as a nun while still a young woman and soon became fully enlightened. As well as being an arahant (enlightened) she also possessed various psychic powers to the extent that the Buddha declared her to be foremost among all the women in this field. Once, while Uppalavanna was meditating alone in the afternoon in the 'Blind-Men's Grove', a secluded forest outside of the city of Savatthi, some thieves passed by. The thieves had just stolen a cow, butchered it and were escaping with the meat. Seeing the composed and serene nun, the chief of the thieves quickly put some of the meat in a leaf-bag and left it for her. Uppalavanna picked up the meat and resolved to give it to the Buddha. Early next morning, having had the meat prepared, she rose into the air and flew to where the Buddha was staying, in the Bamboo Grove outside of Rajagaha, over 200 kilometres as the crow (or nun?) flies! Though there is no specific mention of the Buddha actually consuming this meat, obviously a nun of such high attainments would certainly have known what the Buddha ate.

However there are some meats which are specifically prohibited for monks to eat: human meat, for obvious reasons; meat from elephants and horses as these were then considered royal animals; dog meat - as this was considered by ordinary people to be disgusting; and meat from snakes, lions, tigers, panthers, bears and hyenas - because one who had just eaten the flesh of such dangerous jungle animals was thought to give forth such a smell as to draw forth revenge from the same species!

Towards the end of the Buddha's life, his cousin Devadatta attempted to usurp the leadership of the Order of monks. In order to win support from other monks, Devadatta tried to be more strict than the Buddha and show Him up as indulgent. Devadatta proposed to the Buddha that all the monks should henceforth be vegetarians. The Buddha refused and repeated once again the regulation that he had established years before, that monks and nuns may eat fish or meat as long as it is not from an animal whose meat is specifically forbidden, and as long as they had no reason to believe that the animal was slaughtered specifically for them.

The Vinaya, then, is quite clear on this matter. Monks and nuns may eat meat. Even the Buddha ate meat. Unfortunately, meat eating is often seen by westerners as an indulgence on the part of the monks. Nothing could be further from the truth - I was a strict vegetarian for three years before I became a monk. In my first years as a monk in North-East Thailand, when I bravely faced many a meal of sticky rice and boiled frog (the whole body bones and all), or rubbery snails, red-ant curry or fried grasshoppers - I would have given ANYTHING to be a vegetarian again! On my first Christmas in N.E. Thailand an American came to visit the monastery a week or so before the 25th. It seemed too good to be true, he had a turkey farm and yes, he quickly understood how we lived and promised us a turkey for Christmas. He said that he would choose a nice fat one especially for us... and my heart sank. We cannot accept meat knowing it was killed especially for monks. We refused his offer. So I had to settle for part of the villager's meal - frogs again.

Monks may not exercise choice when it comes to food and that is much harder than being a vegetarian. Nonetheless, we may encourage vegetarianism and if our lay supporters brought only vegetarian food and no meat, well... monks may not complain either!

May you take the hint and be kind to animals.

References:

[1] Book of the Discipline, Vol. 4, p. 324
[2] ibid, p. 325

Ajahn Brahmavamso

(Newsletter, April-June 1990, Buddhist Society of Western Australia.)

crazer_z
05-03-2007, 11:32 AM
MAn Oya HIMIYANGE Poth Kiyavala thiyenava

crazer_z
05-03-2007, 11:32 AM
Thanx RApa DIga vadiy bun Kiyavanna

diz
05-03-2007, 12:40 PM
yah im ok i hate eating meat m vege person!

madurax86
05-03-2007, 12:50 PM
u vegetarians read this

gazaly
07-20-2007, 02:19 PM
Muslims, Christians, Hindus la nam Mas kanawaa... Mokada Eyalata Eyalage aagamema kiyanawaa Kanna kiyalaa.. A'nisa wena katawath A'ka waradi kiyala katawath kiyannath Baha... ehema neyda rapa..?

Alaya
07-20-2007, 02:24 PM
Muslims, Christians, Hindus la nam Mas kanawaa... Mokada Eyalata Eyalage aagamema kiyanawaa Kanna kiyalaa.. A'nisa wena katawath A'ka waradi kiyala katawath kiyannath Baha... ehema neyda rapa..?

ow eka awulak naha machan

meka relevant venne piliganna kamathi ayata withrai

hemalsilva
07-20-2007, 02:26 PM
MAS KANA EKA THIRANAYA UNE EKA KEA AGAM BIHIUNA AREAS ANUWA.BUDDHIST SOUTH ASIN REGION EKE NISA MAS KANNA EPA KIUWA, MOKADA SA WALA HODATA GAS KOLAN THIYENAWA.NAMUTH CATHOLIC, MUSLIM WAGE AGAM BIHIUNE KANTHARA PETHIWALA, ITHIN EDA KIYANNA PULUWAN KAMAK THIBUNE NEHE MAS KANNA EPA KIYALA, MOKADA AE MINISSUNTA KANNA THIBUNE MAS VITHARAI, GAHAK KOLAK VEUNE NTHI NISA.

x-pert
07-20-2007, 02:27 PM
Muslims, Christians, Hindus la nam Mas kanawaa... Mokada Eyalata Eyalage aagamema kiyanawaa Kanna kiyalaa.. A'nisa wena katawath A'ka waradi kiyala katawath kiyannath Baha... ehema neyda rapa..?


and machang mama danna widihata budu haamuduruwoth mas kaala thiyanawane neda...???

Ara mokakda bade amaaruwak ehema haduna kiyala kiyanne..

matath sure naha.. Buddhist kauru hari kiyanna balanna... :)

Dath
07-20-2007, 02:29 PM
Rapoooo oya Ajahn Brahmavamso hamuduruwange gena thread ekak damuda????

It would b great if u can :)

x-pert
07-20-2007, 02:30 PM
Rapoooo oya Ajahn Brahmavamso hamuduruwange gena thread ekak damuda????

It would b great if u can :)


Kauda e haamuduruwo..??

Lankaaaweda wena ratakada machang??

Dath
07-20-2007, 02:37 PM
and machang mama danna widihata budu haamuduruwoth mas kaala thiyanawane neda...???

Ara mokakda bade amaaruwak ehema haduna kiyala kiyanne..

matath sure naha.. Buddhist kauru hari kiyanna balanna... :)

It was a "danayak" bang one time a professor (cant remember his name) explained why load Buddha accepted it....
There were so many reasons pal like Logical & also Phsycological

And this meat is also doubted, some say it is some kinnda Mushrooms !

Alaya
07-20-2007, 02:38 PM
and machang mama danna widihata budu haamuduruwoth mas kaala thiyanawane neda...???

Ara mokakda bade amaaruwak ehema haduna kiyala kiyanne..

matath sure naha.. Buddhist kauru hari kiyanna balanna... :)

naha ban Budu Hamaduruwo kawadawath mas kawe naha

oya kiyana seen eka passe minissu hada gatta kathawak

kisima pothaka sandahan wenne naha machan Un Wahanse mas kawa kiyala

gazaly
07-20-2007, 02:38 PM
ow eka awulak naha machan

meka relevant venne piliganna kamathi ayata withrai

Aagam kiyanney Deviyan Padanam karagaththu Deyak Darshanayak kiyanney Manussayek padanam kara gaththu deyak ithin Deywath-wayeth,Manushshath-wayeth Kohomath Ekahaa samana Adahas naha... Ahasai Polawai wagey... Minissunta Aney Paw kiyala Hitenna Puluwan namuth Deviyan ge ana idiriye Kochchara paw kiyala apita(Minissunta) hithunath Deviyan gana apita thiyena wishwasaya nisa api adahana deviyangey anata api yatath wennama O'ney...

Dath
07-20-2007, 02:42 PM
Kauda e haamuduruwo..??

Lankaaaweda wena ratakada machang??

He is an English scientist bang, Dan mahana wela

Kiribathgoda Hamuduruwo gena ahala thiyeda?They hav some kidda connection

Eaa hamuduruwange whole web site ekak thiyenawa dont u know??????? :)

x-pert
07-20-2007, 02:43 PM
naha ban Budu Hamaduruwo kawadawath mas kawe naha

oya kiyana seen eka passe minissu hada gatta kathawak

kisima pothaka sandahan wenne naha machan Un Wahanse mas kawa kiyala


Hmmmm.. ehemada scene eka :)

Mama ahala thibune machang ooru mas kaala bade amaaruwakuth un wahanseta haduna kiyala scene ekak...

Owu ithin.. baageta baagayak kohomath minissu hadaa gaththa eewane bung thiyanne aagam kiyala... mona aagame unath.. ;)

Dath
07-20-2007, 02:45 PM
naha ban Budu Hamaduruwo kawadawath mas kawe naha

oya kiyana seen eka passe minissu hada gatta kathawak

kisima pothaka sandahan wenne naha machan Un Wahanse mas kawa kiyala

:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
Could b or may be not

Fact is when u have loads of things 2 learn from Load Buddha why waste ur time on these kidda things :no:

x-pert
07-20-2007, 02:46 PM
He is an English scientist bang, Dan mahana wela

Kiribathgoda Hamuduruwo gena ahala thiyeda?They hav some kidda connection

Eaa hamuduruwange whole web site ekak thiyenawa dont u know??????? :)


Machang mage girl witharai buddhist... mama naa :)

Danne naha machang kiribathgoda haamuduruwo ganath...

ammatasiri ehemada.. English kenekda ee kiyanne.. hodaine bungz.. Mokada English minissu Buddhism piligannawa godak aduine bung...

Alaya
07-20-2007, 02:47 PM
Aagam kiyanney Deviyan Padanam karagaththu Deyak Darshanayak kiyanney Manussayek padanam kara gaththu deyak ithin Deywath-wayeth,Manushshath-wayeth Kohomath Ekahaa samana Adahas naha... Ahasai Polawai wagey... Minissunta Aney Paw kiyala Hitenna Puluwan namuth Deviyan ge ana idiriye Kochchara paw kiyala apita(Minissunta) hithunath Deviyan gana apita thiyena wishwasaya nisa api adahana deviyangey anata api yatath wennama O'ney...

ee athin machan Budu Dahame maara freedom ekak thiyanawa

thaman kamathinam karanna nathnam nikan inna

namuth thamanta labenne thaman karana dewal wala prathipala thamai

Budu Hamuduruwo kiwwe "mama kiyana deyakwath hithin vimasala balanne nathuwa pili ganna epa" kiyala

Dath
07-20-2007, 02:56 PM
Machang mage girl witharai buddhist... mama naa :)

Danne naha machang kiribathgoda haamuduruwo ganath...

ammatasiri ehemada.. English kenekda ee kiyanne.. hodaine bungz.. Mokada English minissu Buddhism piligannawa godak aduine bung...

Ohhhh is that so.

Hama agamema core eka mama nam hithanne miniha thanpath kenek karana eka nee.......
So mona agame wunath thamange agama hadawathin nemei oluwen follow karana kena is a better man mama nam hithanne......
;)

x-pert
07-20-2007, 03:00 PM
Ohhhh is that so.

Hama agamema core eka mama nam hithanne miniha thanpath kenek karana eka nee.......
So mona agame wunath thamange agama hadawathin nemei oluwen follow karana kena is a better man mama nam hithanne......
;)


Anna hoda kathawak kiyuwa..

Aniwaa... mamath aagam 4k piliganna manussayek... :yes:
Moko mama ammala ekka church yanawa, girl ekka pansal yanawa (giya), yaaluwo ekka kovilatath yanawa.. ;)

Hama aagameema kiyanne minihata hoda dewal karagena waradi deewal nokara inna and karapu deewal walata pala wipaaka hambenawa kiyalane.. :yes:

Ditta dammawedaneeya Karmaya kiyanne eekane neda... :yes:

Dath
07-20-2007, 03:08 PM
Anna hoda kathawak kiyuwa..

Aniwaa... mamath aagam 4k piliganna manussayek... :yes:
Moko mama ammala ekka church yanawa, girl ekka pansal yanawa (giya), yaaluwo ekka kovilatath yanawa.. ;)

Hama aagameema kiyanne minihata hoda dewal karagena waradi deewal nokara inna and karapu deewal walata pala wipaaka hambenawa kiyalane.. :yes:

Ditta dammawedaneeya Karmaya kiyanne eekane neda... :yes:

Sirawata bang hamoma thama thange agam hariyata follow karan anik agam walata garu karagena innawa nam oya yudda anang manang monawath naa :D

gazaly
07-20-2007, 03:23 PM
Sirawata bang hamoma thama thange agam hariyata follow karan anik agam walata garu karagena innawa nam oya yudda anang manang monawath naa :D
A'ka nam Sampoorna Aththa machan... kawadaawath Wena aagamak thaman Adahana aagamen maninna Honda naha... Ethakota hithenney Api witharai hari kiyalaa.. A'ka hariyata bageta aruna dorak bageta wahala kiyanawa wagey deyak namuth dekama waradi naha... balana koney anuwai thiyenney...

gazaly
01-08-2008, 11:52 AM
ee athin machan Budu Dahame maara freedom ekak thiyanawa

thaman kamathinam karanna nathnam nikan inna

namuth thamanta labenne thaman karana dewal wala prathipala thamai

Budu Hamuduruwo kiwwe "mama kiyana deyakwath hithin vimasala balanne nathuwa pili ganna epa" kiyala

Ow A'ka Hari... a'kai mama Kiwwey Aagam Adahanawa Kiyanne Dewiyange Anata Keekaru wena Ekai kiyalaa... A' Deviyange Ana Kawa Daakawath Waradinna Baha Kiyana Wishwaase api Hmtama thiyena Nisaa...

Darshanaya E'ta Haath Pasinma Wenas... A'ka Manushsha Adahasak Padanam Karagath Ekak Nisaa Kiyana Dey desarayak Hthaana kiyala Kiyana Eka Waradinaha... Mokada Deywath wayai Manushshath wayai Dekakney...
:yes: A'kai Budu Hamu Duruwo Kiwwe "mama kiyana deyakwath hithin vimasala balanne nathuwa pili ganna epa"
:yes:

amilabanuka
01-08-2008, 12:37 PM
naha ban Budu Hamaduruwo kawadawath mas kawe naha

oya kiyana seen eka passe minissu hada gatta kathawak

kisima pothaka sandahan wenne naha machan Un Wahanse mas kawa kiyala

kawe natte na ban.
Dayakaya dena onama deyak piliganna ona. Mas tiyenawada nadda kiyala balanna ba.
Oka loku awulak yana kathawak. Thrikotika parishudda sheelaye tiyena kathawata anuwa minissunta eka eka widiyata hitanna puluwan. oka tama anage tiyenne. wadi wistara mama heta kiyannam hoyala

dan gedara yanna ona. heta kiyannam

ereshthush
01-08-2008, 12:46 PM
tikak digai kiyawala balamu

englishpunk77
02-05-2008, 10:41 PM
Thanks Rapa malli. Good post! I was a vegetarian for years but when i started visiting sri lanka i found it difficult to eat without eating meat or fish. Dried fish in everything as a flavouring!! I now eat meat and fish and don't see it as a problem.

the Dalai Lama (leader of Tibettan mahayana Buddhism) was once asked whether he was a vegetarian. He said he tried being a vegetarian in the 1960's but became ill from lack of protein. So now he eats meat or fish one day and the next day, eats a vegetarian diet. That way, he says, he is a vegetarian for six months of the year :)

Sasika@Elakiri
02-06-2008, 12:37 AM
I just saw the thread and thought of adding my comments too..

I wrote this using what I have learned so far and I believe that I don't know everything in Buddhism.

First of all I would like to tell you that Buddhism is not a religion that obey a certain kind of god. although there are gods in Buddhist teachings, they are less powerful than humans.

To understand Buddhism, we must understand it's concept, otherwise you wont believe anything which are taught in Buddhism.

According to my point of view Buddha Darmaya = Nature (swabawadarmaya). What you are really doing when understanding Dharmaya is that you are understanding nature, the way it act. and you begin to understand that there is a balance in everything. (most basic concept in nature),

In order to understand nature you must have to have a good control of your mind. And that is taught in buddhism in steps , seela> samadhi > prag(J)hna

Person who understood the Dharma easily recognize that this life is a displeased one and that it happens bcoz of the greediness we all humans have (here the greediness is not just greedy we think, it has a deep meaning, refer books) and to end the chain of life that person can go further more deep into buddhist teaching and can reach Nirvana if want

and eating meat is the same, if someone want to reach nirvana soon first of all that person should stop doing sins (akusala karma) . (sin in Buddhism is a different one and hard to understand, Karma means all the things we do after thinking about it with the knowledge we have).

eg: (Karma)
We eat meat knowing that an animal has been killed to get the flesh , and also we know that if we stop eating meat the killings to get meat for us will stop.

here the Act = we eat meat
Thought formed during the act = animal has been killed to get the flesh

So it is upto you to decide whether it is a "akusala Karma" or "kusala Karma"

What you get is what have you done (bt it should be a Karma) , its quite simple as that - that happens because to keep the balance in everything.

just think if there is no balance in this world can anything exist?????
Eg : there are good people because of that there are bad people.
Dark is there because of the light
Hard is there because of the soft etc .......... for everything

just think :

How can you recognize bad if there is no good
Dark if there is no light
Hard if there is no soft

ok so its upto you to decide

anyone can say anything regarding this in their point of view, but the truth remains.

forget buddhism, islam, Hindu teachings, christian teachings etc. for a moment.
But always remember what goes around comes around :lol:

and that is to keep the balance of our life, of our world , the whole universe and that happens automatically by nature not by a person or a god of any kind, just think twice.

gazaly
02-06-2008, 12:43 AM
universe and that happens automatically by nature not by a person or a god of any kind, just think twice. :P:lol::lol::lol:


meyka kiyanaEkkenage roope balannana newei kiyanadey ahanna...:)
E2s14T6x5AM

About This Video

Dr. Zakir Naik proves to atheists that there is a creator of the universe. i.e - a God

lasanka
02-06-2008, 12:52 AM
ok umm way too long to read but er thnx for postin it i guess... i eat whatever i want... but i dun go around killin anythin for the purpose of eating :)

sri_lion
02-06-2008, 01:41 AM
:P:lol::lol::lol:


meyka kiyanaEkkenage roope balannana newei kiyanadey ahanna...:)

About This Video

Dr. Zakir Naik proves to atheists that there is a creator of the universe. i.e - a God

I have a question....

The Dr. who speaks in this video, says all those scientific theories has been mentioned in the Quran long time ago.. So he admits that science is infact true!

But then he doesn't explain how God exist according to science?

or

Is he saying that..... since this much in Quran has been proved true by science...... that he believes the rest is true too?

gazaly
02-06-2008, 01:49 AM
I have a question....

The Dr. who speaks in this video, says all those scientific theories has been mentioned in the Quran long time ago.. So he admits that science is infact true!

But then he doesn't explain how God exist according to science?

or

Is he saying that..... since this much in Quran has been proved true by science...... that he believes the rest is true too?
check this out:)
http://www.scienceislam.com/proof_from_truth.php

and

http://www.science4islam.com/

sri_lion
02-06-2008, 01:57 AM
check this out:)
http://www.scienceislam.com/proof_from_truth.php

and

http://www.science4islam.com/

This site says "Big Bang" is busted! the Dr. in your video says "Big Bang" already mentioned in the Quran.. so which is true?

terrencekpeiris
02-06-2008, 02:41 AM
mamath mas kana eka nathara kala! mama dan veg!

uhox
02-06-2008, 02:53 AM
naha ban Budu Hamaduruwo kawadawath mas kawe naha

oya kiyana seen eka passe minissu hada gatta kathawak

kisima pothaka sandahan wenne naha machan Un Wahanse mas kawa kiyala


sampurana attha......

onema deyaka attha "vikurthi" karanna kata katha samahara minissu hadanawa...
Udaharanayak washayen "NIDAN WADULA" pothe case eka balanna...

eka nidan ganeema sambandawa liya una pothak...boho aya dhanne nethi unata eka liyuwe "baudda virodee balawegayak"...Mokada nidan gannaya kiyala kedenne perani Bauddha vehera vihara nisa...

hema dema anumanaye inna aya nam eka "ehema wenna behei" kiyala kiyai :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Kalindugayan
02-06-2008, 08:03 AM
thanx machan

omaladithya123
02-06-2008, 08:04 AM
Dats rite in sumway

Sasika@Elakiri
02-06-2008, 09:37 AM
:P:lol::lol::lol:


meyka kiyanaEkkenage roope balannana newei kiyanadey ahanna...:)
E2s14T6x5AM

About This Video

Dr. Zakir Naik proves to atheists that there is a creator of the universe. i.e - a God


Machan everything he say is correct, :D bt not every word, fault is not with any religion

We all know, including you that humans do mistakes (you believe it right?)

And we all know that in every religion, the records or the teachings were kept in books or studied by heart by ordinary humans throughout these past years. (even in islam . although your god gave the kuran it was later copied by ordinary humans. Same in Buddhism and other religions. So they may have done mistakes when describing things, specially when describing a thing that they have never seen before eg : god in islam, Dharma in Buddhism. etc.,)

However what I'm really saying is that All the religions describe a one thing in different names

eg : Islam - God, Buddhism - Dharma,....., Christianity - God So all are same but we call them in different names

What i say is God = Dharma = Nature , No one can still describe exactly how they look like. At last Nature is the power which we all obey.

I'll get back to the video

there Dr. Zaik says that manufacturer = producer = inventor and he tries to prove that it is god created them all , yes i believe but what he say god also = God in other religions = Dharma = power of the nature

and he says about the big bang and say that it is mentioned in Kuran 1400 years ago But friend remember it is mentioned in Buddhism 2500 years ago in more informative way. (theres a whole suthraya written about it) and theres another soothrayas that describes not about only the moon,sun and our planet earth but the whole universe 2500 years ago. not in chapters but in books.

That creator,that manufacturer, that inventor you call as Allah, others call it Dharma, God, great power, ......... , it can also called as power of nature

so what im tried to tell is that all these things are the same, we never saw them, touch them but it exists, But it will always maintain the balance in everything :yes: and that is unarguable.

When we do a bad thing again that bad will come to us, But if we do a good thing that good will effect to us

i think you understood my friend, Think about it widely, read twice

I think we went off topic a bit , but we cant make anyone understand without telling these things.

:) :) :) :)

Chamila
02-06-2008, 10:20 AM
ela lokka.hamoma mas kana eka nawaththuwoth thami hoda.

Sasika@Elakiri
02-06-2008, 11:43 AM
ela lokka.hamoma mas kana eka nawaththuwoth thami hoda.
:yes: :yes: