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Hi guys and girls!
As you already know Ninda Noyana Handawe (2004) song by Iraj has been copied by an Indian film called Vilaiyattu. They have refused to remove this song and they are going to release this film very soon. So Iraj going to take legal action about this and he needs your support!
We are going to support srilankan music and srilankan talent by making a whole thread with your votes and comments about this matter. We are planning present this as sound of srilankan people against this injustice in the courts.
This is your opportunity to support srilankan music and make sound against people who trying to copy our music illegally.
Be wise think srilankan and make your comment!
Remember your comment counts.
Original Song Ninda Noyana Handawe
http://www.speedyshare.com/771999224.html
Copied Song Vilaiyattu [Nilavennila Indha Thevadhai]
http://www.speedyshare.com/868157370.html
Film Information -
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4027/43349872lb0.jpg
Vilaiyattu
Music Director : Jassie Gift
Year : 2007
RAZOR xxxxx
10-27-2007, 03:09 PM
yaaaaaaaa yaaaaaaaaaaaa do itttttt.......they shud remove it frm the film........ they cnt copy ur sngs like that..there s a thing called copyrights........
i.am.the.best
10-27-2007, 03:10 PM
Downloading...
i.am.the.best
10-27-2007, 03:12 PM
Ohh man... Maaraine... E wagemaine song eka...
Sriwi
10-27-2007, 03:15 PM
Ya!! They cant copy Srilankan Music just like that!! This is Wrong!!! That is a Srilankan Creation and that song should Go arround the world as A SRILANKAN CREATION!! not as a indian copy!!
isuru009
10-27-2007, 03:21 PM
Ela Ela okunta hoda padamak ugananna ona
Samanali
10-27-2007, 03:22 PM
Well
Indians have NO RIGHT to COPY OUR MUSIC
It's simple as that
mozart
10-27-2007, 03:42 PM
Mokkada machng mekae awula???
cuz if v can copy their music... Y THEY CAN"T?. Tel that dirctor to put irjz name n that film then this thing over no!. this is gud chance 2 iraj i think. ( though i dnt like him) and r u SURE this is a IRAJZ OWN CREATION??? r u sure.
:eek: :eek: :eek:
rukshankb
10-27-2007, 03:42 PM
monawada apen wenna oone?
suma30
10-27-2007, 03:46 PM
yes iraj shoud take legal action.
Mokkada machng mekae awula???
cuz if v can copy their music... Y THEY CAN"T?. Tel that dirctor to put irjz name n that film then this thing over no!. this is gud chance 2 iraj i think. ( though i dnt like him) and r u SURE this is a IRAJZ OWN CREATION??? r u sure.
:eek: :eek: :eek:
hi machan the thing is legally reproducing music is something and illegally reproducing music is another thing.
So don't mix that bro.
That director don't want to put any name he just going to publish as it is.
You may not like him and you may not belive its Iraj's creation how much others tell you.
You are welcome to think like coz this is not a thread to discuss about that..
But i guess you belive its some srilankan creation. Then support that!
Thats what i am talking about bro
shaaj
10-27-2007, 04:48 PM
ANIWAAA... APE LICH BHAIT OYA NEWS EKA GENA KIWWA.... :yes:
INDIAN KAARAYONTA WELE WEL NETI WEDAK DENNA ONE... WE HV TO PROTECT OUR TALENTS... :yes:
Aniwa Api iraj bahai Akkai.but maco unga ewun nadu dammothe apita??mokada apithe indian melody copy karanawana>
shaaj
10-27-2007, 04:57 PM
MAMA NEWS EKA MAGE ADDRESS BOOK EKE HITAPU HEMA EKATAMA FWD KARA...MULU LANKAWAMA ME GENA DENAGANNA ONE...
Aniwa Api iraj bahai Akkai.but maco unga ewun nadu dammothe apita??mokada apithe indian melody copy karanawana>
machan there is a law about reproducing other peoples creations.
So reproducing not gonna make any problem if its legal. We are talking about illegal reproduction of music and not even accepting it and making money out of it.
That should be completely stopped.
Anyway if anyone reproduced indian or any type of music illegally, then they will get sued when the respective parties who own the original content take action against them in the court.
machan there is a law about reproducing other peoples creations.
So reproducing not gonna make any problem if its legal. We are talking about illegal reproduction of music and not even accepting it and making money out of it.
That should be completely stopped.
Anyway if anyone reproduced indian or any type of music illegally, then they will get sued when the respective parties who own the original content take action against them in the court.
hahha Ya maco I agree for u
heshan123
10-27-2007, 05:01 PM
yeah of course. Anyway, with or without our comments Iraj will win the case. Its a matter about intellectual property. If he has copy rights over that song he will be protected by the international law. If the Indian film producer is still gonna release that film, he will have to pay royalty to Iraj plus compensation.
surabada
10-27-2007, 05:18 PM
hi machan the thing is legally reproducing music is something and illegally reproducing music is another thing.
So don't mix that bro.
That director don't want to put any name he just going to publish as it is.
You may not like him and you may not belive its Iraj's creation how much others tell you.
You are welcome to think like coz this is not a thread to discuss about that..
But i guess you belive its some srilankan creation. Then support that!
Thats what i am talking about bro
Machan ethakota Sawanaka eke hindi song eka api copy kare ekata un apita nadu dammoth mokada wenne
tckrockz
10-27-2007, 05:21 PM
maxa dapan iraj nadu maxa Deyan indian karayanta :P
Diyathi
10-27-2007, 05:21 PM
HOw dare Indians are..
Nash'
10-27-2007, 05:25 PM
This is so wrong!! A great piece of music has been violated by the Music Director of that Indian Film. This cope of our own original song "Ninda Noyana Handaawe" should be removed from this film right away as it is illegal!! Don't copr Sri Lankan music....and even without permission!!
As a Sri Lankan I vote and comment and plea the right authorities to take immediate actions, and remove this copied song from that Indian film right away!!
Don't harm Sri Lankan originality!!
Machan ethakota Sawanaka eke hindi song eka api copy kare ekata un apita nadu dammoth mokada wenne
eka machan legally karanna aththe. ehema naththan melahatath nadu dala.
mama issella kiwwa wage machan illegally kaloth ona kenekta ekata muna denna wenwa.
Wal Bada
10-27-2007, 05:40 PM
Well
Indians have NO RIGHT to COPY OUR MUSIC
It's simple as thatWe have no right to copy Indians if you think as a fair සමණලයා
Wal Bada
10-27-2007, 05:41 PM
Mokkada machng mekae awula???
cuz if v can copy their music... Y THEY CAN"T?. Tel that dirctor to put irjz name n that film then this thing over no!. this is gud chance 2 iraj i think. ( though i dnt like him) and r u SURE this is a IRAJZ OWN CREATION??? r u sure.
:eek: :eek: :eek:ElaKiri machan. That should be the spirit.
Wal Bada
10-27-2007, 05:43 PM
machan there is a law about reproducing other peoples creations.
So reproducing not gonna make any problem if its legal. We are talking about illegal reproduction of music and not even accepting it and making money out of it.
That should be completely stopped.
Anyway if anyone reproduced indian or any type of music illegally, then they will get sued when the respective parties who own the original content take action against them in the court.I never heard of Iraj taking any permission from Jikki to produce "Mata Aloke":no: :no:
We have no right to copy Indians if you think as a fair සමණලයා
Indians srilankans or anyone can reproduce music if they take the legal right machan. Its simple as that.
Wal Bada
10-27-2007, 05:47 PM
Indians srilankans or anyone can reproduce music if they take the legal right machan. Its simple as that.Fully agreed. But even then there is moral obligation not to copy blatantly.
I never heard of Iraj taking any permission from Jikki to produce "Mata Aloke":no: :no:
Then may be you don't know machan. There are lot of factors they consider when it comes to copy right law. Age of the track is one.
Wal Bada
10-27-2007, 05:51 PM
It's less than 50 years old. The film was first intheatre in 1959. Iraj did it about 3 yeas back. So only 45 years have elapsed.
Then even if it's more than 50 years, there is a moral obligation not to copy blatently
We have no right to copy Indians if you think as a fair සමණලයා umba india we ekek da.. he he.. nattam india wala ekek umbata mokak hari kalada
tckrockz
10-27-2007, 06:02 PM
umba india we ekek da.. he he.. nattam india wala ekek umbata mokak hari kalada
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: machan meka Indian supporter knek wage ne :P
Fully agreed. But even then there is moral obligation not to copy blatantly.
Well as you know when you talk about open source factors there is something about improving the level or going to the next step/version.
I see it like that, music also should be reproduced with real rights from the original owners. It can be great improvement based on old song or the old melody.
In the same time it can be a total disaster. It depends on the person who doing it.
So as i think music also should be improved if the author or the owner allows it. But should be done with total care which will improve the old track and will create something better.
blood_brotha
10-27-2007, 06:14 PM
we copied a lot of their music ne...
Wal Bada
10-27-2007, 06:17 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: machan meka Indian supporter knek wage ne :PDuka wunata machan, api hindi / tamil songs copy kala. Athta ekayi. E hinda api berihan denna kalin balanna ona api kale monawada kiyala.
"Never throw stones, when you are in a glass house"
we copied a lot of their music ne...
Machan this is nothing about total india vs total srilanka.
As i think our people got rights from the Indian authors for many songs. Old days it's like indian film directors came here and made films using indian melodys to earn money in here too.
Anyway there may be people who copied indian music without any rights. So they will get sued as soon as the real owners get to know about it.
blood_brotha
10-27-2007, 06:26 PM
Machan this is nothing about total india vs total srilanka.
As i think our people got rights from the Indian authors for many songs. Old days it's like indian film directors came here and made films using indian melodys to earn money in here too.
Anyway there may be people who copied indian music without any rights. So they will get sued as soon as the real owners get to know about it.
hmm... thats true.. but what can IRAJ do about this... is he planning to go to courts in india?? i dont know anythin abt international copyright laws..:baffled:
milindasenarath
10-27-2007, 06:32 PM
mozarat is corrct
kawomir25
10-27-2007, 07:05 PM
they refused hw immature, yea iraj take legal action n sue them, v r always wit u. ill fly to sri lanka if i hav to, they cnt copy sri lankan music witout permission n refuse to take it out wat do they think of there selves.......
shalinda
10-27-2007, 07:16 PM
remove it remove the song
mozart
10-27-2007, 07:25 PM
We have no right to copy Indians if you think as a fair සමණලයා
Totally agree with u :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
if we can they also can.
mozart
10-27-2007, 07:27 PM
It's less than 50 years old. The film was first intheatre in 1959. Iraj did it about 3 yeas back. So only 45 years have elapsed.
Then even if it's more than 50 years, there is a moral obligation not to copy blatently
You hav quite a gud knowladge ne machng ........
pretty interesting :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
isharackp
10-27-2007, 07:35 PM
yeah v should go against it.. v r with Iraj.. elakiri bro...;) :yes: :yes: :yes:
Should take legal actions!!:yes: :yes:
It's less than 50 years old. The film was first intheatre in 1959. Iraj did it about 3 yeas back. So only 45 years have elapsed.
bro how you know those stats are correct. Lets say they are correct then why don't they come and sue iraj or BNS according to international copyright law?
So machan as i see it may be based on the indian track but they have rights for that too. You can see that track played by BNS too. There is a video done by BNS for that too. And BNS doing a album exclusively for india with hindi lyrics too. So they should also get sued. right? They even promoting album in India.
So machan don't comment if you really don't know they have rights or not. :yes:
aruna47
10-27-2007, 09:14 PM
API ALWAYS SUPPORT TO IRAJ. LAWYERS READY 20000 PER TALK
Totally agree with u :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
if we can they also can.
Sorry to say machan but you talk like a child :) Don't you know there is law called copyright law.
I don't have to say this again but any party srilankan, indian or anyone who copy illegally will get sued.
Its nothing like montessori stuff like you hit me and i hit you.
MCLINER
10-27-2007, 09:16 PM
mchn...if v do so it will lead da path 2 a major damage 2 our sL music industry coz thr r loadz of sngz produced as copies of indian songz..even iraj's...so better 2 stay silent...
gayandinusha
10-27-2007, 09:17 PM
yes iraj shoud take legal action.
:yes: :yes:
You hav quite a gud knowladge ne machng ........
pretty interesting :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
machan you both saying thanks to each other and say weldone to each other without any reason. But see the facts machan. My great friend Mr Walbada just saying it without even knowing who has rights and who not.
mchn...if v do so it will lead da path 2 a major damage 2 our sL music industry coz thr r loadz of sngz produced as copies of indian songz..even iraj's...so better 2 stay silent...
Machan coping should be stopped! Coz sooner or later they will get sued. Srilankan, Indian, American or even Icelanders. It has no life. You can't take it to international level or publish it as international record label. It has no value. May have some value now coz srilanka still closed to legal music world.
But it will end very soon. So helping our younger generation to copy is like ruining their whole music future.
hmm... thats true.. but what can IRAJ do about this... is he planning to go to courts in india?? i dont know anythin abt international copyright laws..:baffled:
You can take action against anyone in any country where they obey international copyright laws.
Wal Bada
10-27-2007, 09:34 PM
bro how you know those stats are correct. Lets say they are correct then why don't they come and sue iraj or BNS according to international copyright law?
So machan as i see it may be based on the indian track but they have rights for that too. You can see that track played by BNS too. There is a video done by BNS for that too. And BNS doing a album exclusively for india with hindi lyrics too. So they should also get sued. right? They even promoting album in India.
So machan don't comment if you really don't know they have rights or not. :yes:I am referring to "Mata Aloke" not "Sawanka"
I am referring to "Mata Aloke" not "Sawanka"
Still the same machan. The new track of Aloke. It's an Universal Music labeled Album. Its officially launched and legal to sell around the world.
Just check any CDDB around the world they will give track names and lot of information plus photos of the album. Just try playing it on any well known player not even as audio CD just as mp3 still you get all info.
So its internationally distributed to the max and why no one sue him or go to caught against this? You know how the owners went to court against Sirisangabodi track reproduction right? So why not for this?? got a clue?
So i think you got your answer my friend.
mozart
10-27-2007, 09:47 PM
Machan coping should be stopped! Coz sooner or later they will get sued. Srilankan, Indian, American or even Icelanders. It has no life. You can't take it to international level or publish it as international record label. It has no value. May have some value now coz srilanka still closed to legal music world.
But it will end very soon. So helping our younger generation to copy is like ruining their whole music future.
:lol: :l
When i said these thing all of u guys laughed... all of them said that Iraj BnS right and they can copy( copyright thing dsnt matter.. its abt creativity) .. they bring international music to Sl .. blah blah......blah AND now......:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ask from lich.
and most of u guys know that i appreciate Kasun Kalhara Music n Singin BUT after i found out abt that mal mitak thing i really dnt appricate his composing ability to that much.... bt still i admire his singing..... i tld u b4 u pull this KK issue.
aniway IRAJ z wrong cuz he copied some1z music b4. whether it's a copyright r not z not the prob ( ppl who listn to his music dsnt know abt these thing RYT?... all they know is that iraj took those from some1z track).
Hope some indian will go to court against SL... so our ppl can b
CREATIVE
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Ranhiru
10-27-2007, 09:49 PM
Iraj should definietly take legal action against them! Because this is the talent of Sri Lankans!!! Not indians!!!! Atleast they should take permission from Iraj b4 doing this kinda thing!!
mozart
10-27-2007, 09:56 PM
Sorry to say machan but you talk like a child :) Don't you know there is law called copyright law.
I don't have to say this again but any party srilankan, indian or anyone who copy illegally will get sued.
Its nothing like montessori stuff like you hit me and i hit you.
ALL i know Z V shld stop COPYING specially Iraj BnS........even Jothipala,amaradeve KK................. copyrighted r not
V SHLD B CREATIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
v shl giv smthing new to the world:) :) :) :) :) :)
bt u can listen to iraj, bns who gt less originality or u can listen to Nadeeka ,KK who gt lil bit more originality than others.
virajvithanage
10-27-2007, 10:03 PM
surely.... for this kind of thing... legal action should be taken... we must protest against this and stop that film being screened...
x-pert
10-27-2007, 10:05 PM
If Iraj could prove that he is not violating any intellectual or copyright laws to create his melodies, then definitely we should take some action against Gift.... :)
When i said these thing all of u guys laughed... all of them said that Iraj BnS right and they can copy( copyright thing dsnt matter.. its abt creativity) .. they bring international music to Sl .. blah blah......blah AND now......:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol::lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ask from lich.
and most of u guys know that i appreciate Kasun Kalhara Music n Singin BUT after i found out abt that mal mitak thing i really dnt appricate his composing ability to that much.... bt still i admire his singing..... i tld u b4 u pull this KK issue.
aniway IRAJ z wrong cuz he copied some1z music b4. whether it's a copyright r not z not the prob ( ppl who listn to his music dsnt know abt these thing RYT?... all they know is that iraj took those from some1z track).
Hope some indian will go to court against SL... so our ppl can b
CREATIVE
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
I told you anything like copying music is okay? Never. If you can show me please. :)
So don't tell them to me. And in the other hand you were shouting against BNS and other artists without knowing they have rights for those media.
I normally don't join these music fights coz its worthless and ppl not talking based on any facts. Just emotions going around and people talking very bias favoring their likeness. But i am talking now coz its our duty to speak now as the biggest srilankan community and the community built around srilankan music.
Iraj was one of our srilankan artists who needs some help so here we are in the name of biggest srilankan music site. I will do the same to Kasun or Amaradewa or any srilankan artist if they need it.
As i said earlier Iraj, BNS, Kasun or even Indian musicians can reproduce music according to the copyright law. Reproducing music is not a bad thing. You should get rights from the original owners and use your creativity to make something better out of what you get from the original artist. At least try to do that.
Music also something you can improve. Now as an example if you take new inventions they have their patents. But with the license from the original patent owner you can improve it.
There are two ways, start from scratch or start from where other people have stopped before. If done well both ways can give perfect outcomes and both ways will get credit depending on the talent of that person.
kisanka_gr
10-27-2007, 10:07 PM
I'm with Iraj
Wal Bada
10-27-2007, 10:46 PM
So its internationally distributed to the max and why no one sue him or go to caught against this? You know how the owners went to court against Sirisangabodi track reproduction right? So why not for this?? got a clue?
So i think you got your answer my friend.The problem is that Jikki is dead now. People who are owing the rights may not be aware or there is no legal cover for her songs. Even if Iraj has the rights (or if t is public domain) he has blatantly copied the song. Here is the original song. (http://www.infolanka.com/miyuru_gee/ff/f311.ram) See how blatantly Iraj as copied it. Even vocals from Jikki (Krishna Veni) is in Mata Aloke song. Using the voice of the first singer is like stealing the song.
Sirisangabodhi is from Sirisangabo nadagama, which was theatered in 1920s, apprx. 90 years before. So the song is in public domain according to Intellectual property act. So your argument is totally wrong.
The problem is that Jikki is dead now. People who are owing the rights may not be aware or there is no legal cover for her songs. Even if Iraj has the rights (or if t is public domain) he has blatantly copied the song. Here is the original song. (http://www.infolanka.com/miyuru_gee/ff/f311.ram) See how blatantly Iraj as copied it. Even vocals from Jikki (Krishna Veni) is in Mata Aloke song. Using the voice of the first singer is like stealing the song.
Sirisangabodhi is from Sirisangabo nadagama, which was theatered in 1920s, apprx. 90 years before. So the song is in public domain according to Intellectual property act. So your argument is totally wrong.
You know if that person is dead then their family and even respective personality's of related to that media can taken action against anyone who copying that song.
If someone steal the song then its wrong but how can you just say he has sealed it without knowing he has rights or not?
You say he is dead and no legal cover and no one and no respective person to act against this. Even no human rights organization to talk?
Machan don't say things without any facts. You hate Iraj and you hate reproduction of music. So its okay you have complete freedom to think as you want. But blaming other people without any evidence or proven facts is dead wrong.
About Sirisangabodi track, Yes so they went to take legal action without knowing the law, so they were unable to ban the track and its still being played even now.
tckrockz
10-27-2007, 11:07 PM
The problem is that Jikki is dead now. People who are owing the rights may not be aware or there is no legal cover for her songs. Even if Iraj has the rights (or if t is public domain) he has blatantly copied the song. Here is the original song. (http:/*******.com) See how blatantly Iraj as copied it. Even vocals from Jikki (Krishna Veni) is in Mata Aloke song. Using the voice of the first singer is like stealing the song.
Sirisangabodhi is from Sirisangabo nadagama, which was theatered in 1920s, apprx. 90 years before. So the song is in public domain according to Intellectual property act. So your argument is totally wrong.
machan i knw ur nt supporting iraj. can u stop spamming plz :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Wal Bada
10-27-2007, 11:11 PM
You know if that person is dead then thier family and even respective personalitys of related to that media can taken action against anyone who copying that song. Yes. I said that they might have been un aware. Or even does not want to take action. But the problem I pointed at was blatant copying by Iraj, which is morally wrong.
If someone stealed the song then its wrong but how can you just say he has stealed it without knowing he has rights or not?Listen to the original song man, then listen to Iraj's. Where do you think that female voice is coming from? It's Krishna Veni's voice. Copying up to that extent is horrible.
You say he is dead and no legal cover and no one and no respective person to act agianst this. Even no human rights organization to talk? Who knows. My problem once more is about blatant copying and using the original song to produce tracks. Read the posts once more.
Machan don't say things without any facts. You hate Iraj and you hate reproduction of music. So its okay you have complete freedom to think as you want. But blaming other people without any evidance or provan facts is dead wrong.I am talking with facts. You have absolutely no evidence that Iraj carries the legal ownership of "Mata Aloke" song (but it was not the point of discussion). How can you disprove that it's not a blatant copy? I hate copy cats who do it in an uncivilized way. Iraj is one of them, so are Centigradz (but they are improving as they are doing their own melodies now).
icreations
10-27-2007, 11:13 PM
hmm.. lst posts... any way
i think if Indians copied this Co z WE HAVE TALENTs..:) else if They Wont Take right..:)
anemanda Watd Iraj Saying..:)
yeah sure!!! im downlodin da song!! letz c! anyws, im against it!! they cant do it....
Yes. I said that they might have been un aware. Or even does not want to take action. But the problem I pointed at was blatant copying by Iraj, which is morally wrong.
Listen to the original song man, then listen to Iraj's. Where do you think that female voice is coming from? It's Krishna Veni's voice. Copying up to that extent is horrible.
Who knows. My problem once more is about blatant copying and using the original song to produce tracks. Read the posts once more.
I am talking with facts. You have absolutely no evidence that Iraj carries the legal ownership of "Mata Aloke" song (but it was not the point of discussion). How can you disprove that it's not a blatant copy? I hate copy cats who do it in an uncivilized way. Iraj is one of them, so are Centigradz (but they are improving as they are doing their own melodies now).
You or me not sound engineers. And we don't have nessosory equpments to test that. So you can't say that small part is from Krishna Veni's voice or not.
You know who sings most of female backing voices of many new Srilankan and international songs? You know there are voice manipulating software and hardware which can change any voice or make it match to any voice they like.
You know how many sites selling voice changing software even to kids as a fun method to use in their voice chats?
I am talking based on the current decision about that track. So its officially having no problem till to this date. But my friend you are talking based on your imagination and things you will believe will get proved. So my dear walbada if someone prove its illegal copying then i will agree with you. Even this thread based on the topic of illegal copying of music so i am totally against illegal reproduction of music. But i am telling you again don't blame people without facts. I am talking based on the facts we already have.
dagame
10-28-2007, 02:14 AM
ai mechara eka sinduwak copy kala kiyala mechara kaganne? ehenam indiayawa ape ratata kochara nadu danna oneda copy karala karana movies, songs, tv series and everything. hahaha. boruwata iraj karaya kagahawa uge sinduwak copy kala kiyala. bullshit!!
sri_lion
10-28-2007, 02:19 AM
In my opinion, the problem NOW is about Iraj and the track copied from him!!
IF this track is Originally Iraj's which he has complete right to
and
IF he has never copied from Indian Music illegally..
he has every rights to fight against this!!
Firstly....We know we copied whole sale from Indian Music for decades but if they've failed to SUE us, well.. its NOT our mistake.... BUT its our LACK of CREATIVITY!! and that being said We DON'T really know where Indians have copied them FROM? So no ones knows for sure... the ones we copied thinking that its Original Indian may well have been looted from around the world.. Just LIKE their CRAPPY FILMS!!!
Secondly... If all those conditions above were MET about Iraj... then Iraj doesn't have to pay for what other artist did in the past, its NOT like he has to keep quiet because whole SL copy from Indian music!!! But all this only IF his hands are NOT DIRTY!!!
Anyway assuming that this effort is honest I would like to him WISH GOOD LUCK as a Sri Lankan!!
sri_lion
10-28-2007, 02:24 AM
umba india we ekek da.. he he.. nattam india wala ekek umbata mokak hari kalada
C'mon LICH... you have to be more mature than this as one of the Admins of the site...
As your Signature says "With Great Powers Comes Great Responsibilities" !!
Think about it!!! :)
uvajira
10-28-2007, 04:09 AM
ye man ask iraj to make an action regarding that issue...we all r with him...
hodalamaya
10-28-2007, 04:32 AM
u know ... if like this ..... wt will happened if indian people take legal action against us?? most of our artists will be affected
saraprobe
10-28-2007, 05:16 AM
So what we are gonna do now
??/??//
uditha_d
10-28-2007, 06:57 AM
we sure do somthing 2 dat.:yes: :yes: :yes:
who know wat will next.:eek:
RAZOR xxxxx
10-28-2007, 08:00 AM
so so guys wht ar they goin to do for this????????
any new news??????????????????????????????
Sujakshan
10-28-2007, 08:03 AM
its not good tho........!!
iraj should take a legal action
Wal Bada
10-28-2007, 10:02 AM
You or me not sound engineers. And we don't have nessosory equpments to test that. So you can't say that small part is from Krishna Veni's voice or not.Don't play down the situation machan. Any one will recognize the similarities. And the copying of original lyrics is also unmistakable. Sound engineers blah blah blah and computer analysis is always inferior to pattern recongnition of human brain (are computers good at recognising faces or finger prints than the human eye?). If best of the musicians say it is a copy cat how do you disprove it? Anf BTW you don't need sophisticated equipment to say whose voice is that when sombody talks, even when it is engineered to a certain degree.
You know who sings most of female backing voices of many new Srilankan and international songs? You know there are voice manipulating software and hardware which can change any voice or make it match to any voice they like.
You know how many sites selling voice changing software even to kids as a fun method to use in their voice chats?Once again poor show. Even the pronuncation of the words in the "Mata Aloke" song are foreign. So you want to prove it with engineers for that also?
I am talking based on the current decision about that track. So its officially having no problem till to this date.I am talking of the moral grounds of it. Not the legal grounds of it. Iam not worried about the copyright. I am worried about barbaric copying of songs.
But my friend you are talking based on your imagination and things you will believe will get proved. You don't comprehend ehat I was talking about. You are answering to points that you have created in your mind. Get over it and listen to both songs with an open mind. Then comment about morality of Iraj's work.
So my dear walbada if someone prove its illegal copying then i will agree with you. Even this thread based on the topic of illegal copying of music so i am totally against illegal reproduction of music. But i am telling you again don't blame people without facts. I am talking based on the facts we already have.Stop protecting copycats GTRZ. People who copy others cannot whinge about there work being copied. They have no moral right for that. Veddas can't preach "bana". Iraj is like a "Vedda" who is preaching about "non-violence" Blatantly copying and then whinging when his work is copied.
RAZOR xxxxx
10-28-2007, 10:04 AM
heyyyy iraj tld it in sirasa today...in the niroshaii iroshaii programme...
hey i think hell do sumthin abt this for sureeeeeee
sampath312
10-28-2007, 10:24 AM
considering the legal side we got to admit this is wrong....but macho ape irajla witharak nemey issara idhalama api hindi melodies copy kara nedaha...ehema ewata nadhu dammanam adha api ahana godhak film sindu ehema ahannawath labenne naha neda?????
any way its irajs right to go agaist as it was him who add his blood on his designs....
to me if some body using the originality with the permission and use it for a better creation ,it doesnt matters me at all .because some times much better design might come after little editing to the originals......there are some portugeese , brazillians song melodies are used without even mention here in sri lanka..but thats true some credit should go to true designer.......but if he(person in this irajs matter) is not willing to do so its so disgusting.....
sampath312
10-28-2007, 10:29 AM
Don't play down the situation machan. Any one will recognize the similarities. And the copying of original lyrics is also unmistakable. Sound engineers blah blah blah and computer analysis is always inferior to pattern recongnition of human brain (are computers good at recognising faces or finger prints than the human eye?). If best of the musicians say it is a copy cat how do you disprove it? Anf BTW you don't need sophisticated equipment to say whose voice is that when sombody talks, even when it is engineered to a certain degree.
Once again poor show. Even the pronuncation of the words in the "Mata Aloke" song are foreign. So you want to prove it with engineers for that also?
I am talking of the moral grounds of it. Not the legal grounds of it. Iam not worried about the copyright. I am worried about barbaric copying of songs.
You don't comprehend ehat I was talking about. You are answering to points that you have created in your mind. Get over it and listen to both songs with an open mind. Then comment about morality of Iraj's work.
Stop protecting copycats GTRZ. People who copy others cannot whinge about there work being copied. They have no moral right for that. Veddas can't preach "bana". Iraj is like a "Vedda" who is preaching about "non-violence" Blatantly copying and then whinging when his work is copied.
wise words machang 100precent agreed...we dont hate iraj or some what but if iraj do the copy why he is just worried when others do for him.....if he is not doing so we can completely agree with this stuff..for me this is just a simple issue dont even feel as a big thing to talk about
draco
10-28-2007, 10:32 AM
we must help IRAJ
Don't play "Baba" machan. Any one will recognize the similarities. And the copying of original lyrics is also unmistakable. Sound engineers blah blah blah and computer analysis is always inferior to pattern recongnition of human brain (are computers good at recognising faces or finger prints than the human eye?). If best of the musicians say it is a copy cat how do you disprove it? Anf BTW you don't need sophisticated equipment to say whose voice is that when sombody talks, even when it is engineered to a certain degree.
Machan I thought you acting like a Baba but as I see you are really a Baba when it comes to this topic. You know machan you can recognize the melody without any problems. Even a normal person can do that. That’s why I am not telling like that song not based on the melody of the old song. It’s simple as that. But you can’t say exactly that small part of the voice is from the exact person you referring to. You may be unaware but there are tons of digital manipulation techniques. There are effects to make it old add distortion and match any voice etc.. If you want example I will show you from our own download section. They are well known singers in srilanka but voice manipulated to exact need.
So don’t mix melody recognition with voice recognition. Its not easy as that.
Human brain can pickup melody but computers can do it very easily. Even kids type of DJ software comes with beat matching and tempo matching. Simple stuff. Human brain finds it hard to recognize manipulated audio from the original source. But computers can.
The whole idea of audio/voice manipulation is to make it undetectable to human brain coz then it becomes a effect or some proper change. If humans can detect it very easily then why they manipulate?
Even the pronunciation of the words in the "Mata Aloke" song are foreign. So you want to prove it with engineers for that also?
Hehe so man it sounds foreign, local or even robotic it’s up to the artist to make it like as he/she wants.
I am talking of the moral grounds of it. Not the legal grounds of it. Iam not worried about the copyright. I am worried about barbaric copying of songs.
Machan you are not sure he has copyright or not. You don’t know he got rights from the owners or not. So how can you say it’s barbaric? If some of them came and said he copied it and we never gave him any permission do so then its barbaric, uncivilized and every similar word. I don’t don’t know why but you are telling this for the 3rd time with out any evidence.
You don't comprehend ehat I was talking about. You are answering to points that you have created in your mind. Get over it and listen to both songs with an open mind. Then comment about morality of Iraj's work.
Now you are telling I am talking from imagination which i told you before hehe. Telling agian Machan I am talking from the available facts. From the first day I heard that song I knew it’s based on that old song’s melody. its simple as that. I am talking about the copyright of that and voice part you talking about. It may be he got permission to add that small voice part too. Anyway I don’t believe he has to rip that when all these digital voice manipulation techniques available.
Stop protecting copycats GTRZ. People who copy others cannot whinge about there work being copied. They have no moral right for that. Veddas can't preach "bana". Iraj is like a "Vedda" who is preaching about "non-violence" Blatantly copying and then whinging when his work is copied.
I am not trying to protect anyone here. If someone has done something bad he should be sued. Illegal copying should be totally stopped. But I don’t like the idea of music reproduction is totally bad idea and should be banned. Music same like all other things in this world can be improved. So with the proper rights anyone should be able do that.
Even those Indian musicians can take rights to edit and reproduce the song. But they should do it legally and taking the rights from the owner without saying it’s based on nothing and it’s their own creation.
tckrockz
10-28-2007, 10:55 AM
oi wal badda ??
oki picture dis n think hw it will be
u make a song and you word so hard on it and it becomes a top chart hit in SL
and u make a video and u wanna spread it to the world n a indian film maker copies the exact song of the one u made witout asking u a single think and nw u cant release it to the indian media saying that indains copies my song ne..dey will think if we copied his song how come we just heard it now.n u can say i released it bla bla.bt dey will think ahh sri lankan ppl copied our songs..
sampath312
10-28-2007, 11:04 AM
oi wal badda ??
oki picture dis n think hw it will be
u make a song and you word so hard on it and it becomes a top chart hit in SL
and u make a video and u wanna spread it to the world n a indian film maker copies the exact song of the one u made witout asking u a single think and nw u cant release it to the indian media saying that indains copies my song ne..dey will think if we copied his song how come we just heard it now.n u can say i released it bla bla.bt dey will think ahh sri lankan ppl copied our songs..
thats not the main thing he was pointing at all...if iraj is doing the same how he go against others......isnt it a shame dear.....just think being neutral bro...its just like "patawnata kelin yanda kiyana kakuluwa dha adeta yai"
Wal Bada
10-28-2007, 12:02 PM
But you can’t say exactly that small part of the voice is from the exact person you referring to. You may be unaware but there are tons of digital manipulation techniques.So wise man, who sings that part? give the name of the artist. ask Iraj about it (you have contacts with most of the composers ne?). I am loving to hear that answer.
Hehe so man it sounds foreign, local or even robotic it’s up to the artist to make it like as he/she wants.This is the first time I heard that you can manipulate the "racial color" of a voice. Can you manipulate a giutar to sound as a flute? That is the "racial color or tone color" of a voice that I am referring to.
Machan you are not sure he has copyright or not. You don’t know he got rights from the owners or not. So how can you say it’s barbaric? If some of them came and said he copied it and we never gave him any permission do so then its barbaric, uncivilized and every similar word. I don’t don’t know why but you are telling this for the 3rd time with out any evidence.Where did I talk about legal aspects of it? I was referring to themorality of the work? Do you know the difference between legal and moral conducts?
I am not trying to protect anyone here. If someone has done something bad he should be sued. Illegal copying should be totally stopped. But I don’t like the idea of music reproduction is totally bad idea and should be banned.I did not oppose improving it. But I am aginst copying it in a chocker-block. I am talking on moral grounds and you are talking on legal grounds. That's why I said you are responding to you imaginations.
So with the proper rights anyone should be able do that.Even with proper rights, it's a copy cat. make no mistake. If there is no copy rights then it is stolen. I am not sure about "Player's Lounge" as well. I think Lich is the one who produced this song for Iraj. He may enlighten us about rights from the director of "Raja Hindustani" for the melody and words of "Pardeshi pardeshi jaana nahi" song. Players Longe is better because it's not a blatant copy cat as "Mata aloke"
I think Lich is the one who produced this song for Iraj.
Are U Sick... What are you talking. Better go and get ur Medicine and come
We Have to stop this Film.. Please Pass this Msg to all the friends... Vilaiyattu film
we can give our best sup 4 Iraj ....
To dagame, hodalamaya, sampath312 etc.. referring to your posts you made in this thread..
Guys first I have to tell you please read the whole thread before making these comments. I have already answered these questions in many places. So can’t repeat that again coz then I will have to type like many pages again.
Anyway I will add something again here for what I said earlier.
You all say we copied from Indian tracks from old days like film songs. So how many of you know that most of them are Indian film directors and musicians came to srilanakn and did films in srilanka to earn money using srilankan actors and singers. They never created melodies to us they just put some sinhala lyrics with some sinhala author to Indian melody and made some srilankan person sing that for the film. And they earn money from our people.
Some srilankan well known artists went to India to learn eastern music. They became pros under guidance from Indian musicians in the old days. They came to srilanka and some of their tracks based on the Indian melody. I am not sure about the copyright acts in those days but I am sure most of those songs done with acknowledgement with the original owners of India. So they were working together and our srilankan eastern artists found them as gurus and gods of music. So they used that music from who thought them. I don’t think they never knew it too. They also knew their music used by their student.
May be there are some people who totally copied it without any sound, but its not everybody.
About those Indian Tv shows and drams many of them are total rubbish and complete disaster to our culture. I know many TV stations play those things and our people watch them. As you know Indian directors come to srilankan and hire our actors and create such low quality TV series and shows. You think its srilankan but money goes to the Indian director. Even government came with a law for that to protect srilankan media industry. Coz it was going to suck by Indian cheap invasion. I see only rupavahini playing quality Indian content like film series from Sathyajith Ray without much or NO advertisements and paying all from their own pockets.
Don’t think Indians are so nice and they allow us to use their content, as you already know they are very aggressive when it comes to threats and they are very greedy when doing any sort of business. To Indians srilankan is like total market freely available. Its almost like sub part of India. I don’t wanna mention names here but lot of our well known companies and organizations owned by Indians and they pump all our money to India. Even in music industry we pump lot of cash to India, and Indians really wanna make us stick to their music.
I don’t have to give examples but Indians copy tons of tracks from western world. And create hindi original tracks for them. And even remix them and play on Indian MTV.
They totally copy western films, technology, media simply everything they can. They even don’t care about patents. They are so talented copiers. We are not even near them. They even copy English song and create hindi track for that. And in the same time Indian directors come to srilankan and put sinhala lyrics to those melodies and create sinhala tracks and play them in TV shows as theme songs and middle and background parts.
I will give you another example in another industry. As you know Bajaj which influenced by Japanese Auto maker Kawasaki make Pulsar their flagship model. Bajaj just copy deigns from Honda CBR 1000RR when Honda change the back with pointing upwards rear parts Pulsar also changes. When Honda go with transparent lights with internal bulb having the colour bajaj duplicate that too. When rims and engine become black bajaj also black. They totally copy design of Japanese bikes too. They have no rights what so ever for that.
But so lame still 180cc engine on a so called bike they called Definitely Male or in other words made for men and for sports running from a single piston. And no mono shocks and no disk brakes in the rear, single disk brake in the front.
Anyway bajaj is the best selling bike in srilanka since its so cheap than Japanese models. All Indian bikes manufactures together have almost all srilankan brand new bike market.
As I remember last year some Chinese auto maker released pulsar like bike to srilankan market. Bajaj went crazy and together with david peris motors they went to sue that bike maker and banned it from srilanka. So they can’t remember all the things they copied from Japanese Honda hehe those are so called big prestigious Indian companies.
Even more funny thing is Bajaj going to sue TVS motors (Another indain bike maker) as soon as TVS release their new bike called Flame. Bajaj says TVS has copied their DTS-i technology in that Flame engine. But actually Honda invented that technology many years ago. Even TVS admit that and say bajaj has no right over DTS-I and it’s invented by Honda japan. hehe So Bajaj and TVS going to court for a thing they don’t even invented and invented by Honda many more years back. Funny India.
Anyway I just enlightened you guys about India and how they work. Its nothing like India love us and they don’t sue us. Simply illegal copying should be totally banned who ever did that its totally wrong.
RAZOR xxxxx
10-28-2007, 12:41 PM
HEY GTRZ PLZ TELLL ANY NEW NEWS ABT THIS CASE??????????? wht ar the actions that they hve taken for this????
dagame
10-28-2007, 12:43 PM
We Have to stop this Film.. Please Pass this Msg to all the friends... Vilaiyattu film
hahaha.. wat a joke. if india starts 2 du the same 2 sri lankan movie directors and music artists, the whole lanka will get sued. Y every1s so paniced when this happend 2 iraj. is he like a idol or sum1. i dnt think every1 will b like this concerned if this happen 2 some other artist. this whole thing is a big joke. hahaha. i hate that fag anyway.
dagame
10-28-2007, 01:01 PM
yo.. GTRZ im totally against wif the piracy thing as well. bt im telling y ppl r so concern about this irajs song? is this the 1st time dat india has done something like this??? u were telling abt indian directors come 2 sl and do there songs using sri lankan artist and stuff ryt? bt hw come on the albums dat never mensiond. iv seen this album dat have songs frm the movie kal ho na ho in sinhala. is da producer indian??? n dere r heapz of songs like dat. im nt baking up india or anyfng. wat i dnt like is dis iraj guys drama. some1 has mentiond that he told to the media that ninda noyana song was his truimp card for selling the album. cnt u ppl get it. hes worried nw he cnt sell da album in india and earn big buks. hahaha.. maann wat a joker. hahaha.. anyway dats my opinion. l8rz
So wise man, who sings that part? give the name of the artist. ask Iraj about it (you have contacts with most of the composers ne?). I am loving to hear that answer.
I think this question already asked by many tv shows, news papers, other media etc..
Not only about small part in this track with effects but also about very clear voices in his other tracks which are not reproductions too. Who is doing that background vocals, who is doing that chorus female part etc.. What he says is he has some singer/s that doesn’t wanna come to front and he will expose them very soon to the media.
Anyway if you wanna verify your self you can PM iraj from ElaKiri too. His User ID is Iraj.
This is the first time I heard that you can manipulate the "racial color" of a voice. Can you manipulate a giutar to sound as a flute? That is the "racial color or tone color" of a voice that I am referring to.
Yes you can do. But who needs a sound of flute to make a guitar sound.
Anyway from early days this was used by scientists to reproduce sounds made by animals. You know there were big buzz to talk with animals and find the ways they communicate with each other.
Where did I talk about legal aspects of it? I was referring to the morality of the work? Do you know the difference between legal and moral conducts?
I did not oppose improving it. But I am aginst copying it in a chocker-block. I am talking on moral grounds and you are talking on legal grounds. That's why I said you are responding to you imaginations.
Even with proper rights, it's a copy cat. make no mistake. If there is no copy rights then it is stolen.
Yes I understand really well about morality, now you are the one who said its only 43 years old right? So the rights should be taken only from the owners. Not from the expired method. So if he has rights then its taken from the respective owners so if they allowed it then what’s not ethical in that? My friend the main thing is you are thinking like the music is static and you think like once made that will be the masterpiece and it’s perfect. Modifications like ruining it.
As you know from medicine also there is a method called EBM (Evidence based medicine), When it comes to software upgrading and new versions based on previous.
Now what that moral or ethics not coming to other things like patents? Some person invents something and someone getting license from him and improve it. Then it’s also not ethical? So all should inventions from scratch? Person who make the car should invent the wheel also?
Okay I’ll give another example from srilankan music too. One of the best singers of all time Mr Amaradewa’s songs reproduced by composer and author. Even Mr Amaradewa doesn’t liked that they made new melodies based on old track and made new music with new singer coz they have the copyright. And sold it everywhere too. I don’t wanna mention names but those are top srilankan musicians and song writers.
And most of top srilankan eastern music artists made Cds and cassettes saying new music with some popular western type of band who add total new western beats. The flow of the song totally disappeared and it was totally new thing. I am not going to criticize that saying good or bad, some found it good and some found it bad. But what I am saying is they totally reproduced the music.
HEY GTRZ PLZ TELLL ANY NEW NEWS ABT THIS CASE??????????? wht ar the actions that they hve taken for this????
They going to take legal action machan.
RAZOR xxxxx
10-28-2007, 01:56 PM
welll they ar **going** to take bt who knws ??????? sumtimes they ll giv up this .......................
Wal Bada
10-28-2007, 02:09 PM
Yes I understand really well, now you are the one who said its only 43 years old right? So the rights should be taken only from the owners. Not from the expired method. So if he has rights then its taken from the respective owners so if they allowed it then what’s not ethical in that? Once more you are going on the same old circle. Yes had a query about it being less than 50 years old. But the main problem is about a bloke who has copied from Indian artists whining about his work being copied. (That does not make that Indian bugger right though). There may have been a problem about the copyright. I'll check info. about director of the film and then post whether it's copyrighted or not.
My friend the main thing is you are thinking like the music is static and you think like once made that will be the masterpiece and it’s perfect.Modifications like ruining it.No. I did not think like that.
I did not oppose improving it. But I am aginst copying it in a chocker-block
You can see what I have written.
Now what that moral or ethics not coming to other things like patents? Some person invents something and someone getting license from him and improve it. Then it’s also not ethical? So all should inventions from scratch? Person who make the car should invent the wheel also?The problem occurs when some body copies all the parts of a car and change only the paint of it and call it a new car.
yo.. GTRZ im totally against wif the piracy thing as well. bt im telling y ppl r so concern about this irajs song? is this the 1st time dat india has done something like this??? u were telling abt indian directors come 2 sl and do there songs using sri lankan artist and stuff ryt? bt hw come on the albums dat never mensiond. iv seen this album dat have songs frm the movie kal ho na ho in sinhala. is da producer indian??? n dere r heapz of songs like dat. im nt baking up india or anyfng. wat i dnt like is dis iraj guys drama. some1 has mentiond that he told to the media that ninda noyana song was his truimp card for selling the album. cnt u ppl get it. hes worried nw he cnt sell da album in india and earn big buks. hahaha.. maann wat a joker. hahaha.. anyway dats my opinion. l8rz
We are supporting here coz we are the biggest srilankan online music community.
As i said earlier it's not only Iraj, if any srilankan artist need help we are talking about it. Machan i told many stuff about those factors earlier in this thread, you better check them.
About that film song CD i think i remember what you are talking about. It was made with indian film melody and sinhala lyrics with srilankan singers.
It was done by well known record company in srilankan which has Indian origin.
They even used television media advertisements to sell that CDs. Not sure but it had some international record label too. This company also sold the hindi version of those songs in here and they had the official dealership for those indian albums. So you think that sinhala CD they were selling so big was illegal copying or made with rights to attract srilakan customers and earn more srilakan money from that.
Well all the indian artists and their music, film, dramas come to srilanka and they earn money from that. So why we should not earn money from indian market?
BNS did a Hindi Album specialty to Indian market and we supported that.
So iraj also thinking to take his music to india. So whats wrong with that?
Indian songs and all other content plays like crazy in SL medias. So we should try to take our music to india too.
sampath312
10-28-2007, 02:32 PM
hahaha.. wat a joke. if india starts 2 du the same 2 sri lankan movie directors and music artists, the whole lanka will get sued. Y every1s so paniced when this happend 2 iraj. is he like a idol or sum1. i dnt think every1 will b like this concerned if this happen 2 some other artist. this whole thing is a big joke. hahaha. i hate that fag anyway.
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yo.. GTRZ im totally against wif the piracy thing as well. bt im telling y ppl r so concern about this irajs song? is this the 1st time dat india has done something like this??? u were telling abt indian directors come 2 sl and do there songs using sri lankan artist and stuff ryt? bt hw come on the albums dat never mensiond. iv seen this album dat have songs frm the movie kal ho na ho in sinhala. is da producer indian??? n dere r heapz of songs like dat. im nt baking up india or anyfng. wat i dnt like is dis iraj guys drama. some1 has mentiond that he told to the media that ninda noyana song was his truimp card for selling the album. cnt u ppl get it. hes worried nw he cnt sell da album in india and earn big buks. hahaha.. maann wat a joker. hahaha.. anyway dats my opinion. l8rz
this is bit true ....i ve to admit this comercial world is very complex than we think.....at last they some how get in to their portion and leave....we even dont know we are used for that...as i told dont even feel like this is a big thing.....im just worried how Iraj can say this, knowing himself, he is doing the same at times.....any way its just waste of time :confused: :confused:
why these people cant use their words to save our culture save our nature save what really got some value than this ......:confused: :confused:
sampath312
10-28-2007, 02:45 PM
We are supporting here coz we are the biggest srilankan online music community.
As i said earlier it's not only Iraj, if any srilankan artist need help we are talking about it. Machan i told many stuff about those factors earlier in this thread, you better check them.
About that film song CD i think i remember what you are talking about. It was made with indian film melody and sinhala lyrics by srilankan singers.
It was done by well known record company in srilankan which has Indian origin.
They even used television media advertisements to sell that CDs. Not sure but it had some international record label too. This company also sold the hindi version of those songs in here and they had the official dealership for those indian albums. So you think that sinhala CD they were selling so big was illegal copying or made with rights to attract srilakan customers and earn more srilakan money from that.
Well all the indian artists and their music, film, dramas come to srilanka and they earn money from that. So why we should not earn money from indian market?
BNS did a Hindi Album specialty to Indian market and we supported that.
So iraj also thinking to take his music to india. So whats wrong with that?
Indian songs and all other content plays like crazy in SL medias. So we should try to take our music to india too.
Its a optimistic thinking but wont be easy:oo: ....because indian music plays crazy here in SL not only because of beauty but far more reasons for that...
dagame
10-28-2007, 02:49 PM
im asking again, is this da 1st time dat india has done such a thing? i mean copyng a lankan song or movie or wateva 2 panic like this??? anyway i dnt wana waste ma time talking abt dat stupid drama queen. all i hav 2 say is
"WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND"
rsanda
10-28-2007, 02:51 PM
just ask ill give any support
Once more you are going on the same old circle. Yes had a query about it being less than 50 years old. But the main problem is about a bloke who has copied from Indian artists whining about his work being copied. (That does not make that Indian bugger right though). There may have been a problem about the copyright. I'll check info. about director of the film and then post whether it's copyrighted or not.
You are the one who going circles bro, now you are saying he has copied it agian without any facts leading to the early stage of this conversation that we came so far. You have no prove to show he has illegaly copyied but you still say that again like from the start.
The problem occurs when some body copies all the parts of a car and change only the paint of it and call it a new car.
Machan Wal Bada Perfect example for the indian bugger. :lol: ;)
Hey Iraj must take legal Action As soon as posible.
dis dam INDIANS Shit film Vilaiyattu has copied of Sri Lankan Hip-Hop Artist Irajs Song.Evry Thing is Same.Only Language is diferent.So it want be damn Indians Own Work.They have no wrights to do this.
Iraj must take legle Action.
im asking again, is this da 1st time dat india has done such a thing? i mean copyng a lankan song or movie or wateva 2 panic like this??? anyway i dnt wana waste ma time talking abt dat stupid drama queen. all i hav 2 say is
"WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND"
Well if you don't have time then its your problem. Anyway as i know this is the first time it happen to any artist which we have contacts with. But its not few we are in contact with large number of artists who producing many types of music in srilanka. I don't know if that happened long ago but as i know this is the first time. And he has asked for support and give this to the public. We will do that to any artist who need such help.
Its a optimistic thinking but wont be easy:oo: ....because indian music plays crazy here in SL not only because of beauty but far more reasons for that...
yes but this is not an effort to try stopping indian music in srilanka, but to take our music to india.
mozart
10-28-2007, 08:03 PM
Mara athl therad eka :lol:
Iraj mula idanma kagenwath copy kare nathang . hamoma support karanwane :lol:
Mara athl therad eka :lol:
Iraj mula idanma kagenwath copy kare nathang . hamoma support karanwane :lol:
hehe you are talking again after sudden disappearance of yesterday! hmm :lol:
better read the thread before commenting again machan.
Coz i can't waste time typing the same reply again and again. If you have no facts then don't comment from your dreams like just dropped from the moon ;)
read the thread and make proper comment with some good facts which haven't discussed already.
And in the other hand you can see lot of people supporting our effort than few of you who disagree on this hehe. Anyway both types are welcome.
iRocker
10-28-2007, 09:57 PM
Okkkkzzz... Aftr goin thru most of this thread... I thought I'd give my view point...
Say I robbed a person... Tht person can take legal actions against me... But if he ddnt... well.. lucky me... He he... BUT tht dsnt giv tht person the right to rob me ny time he wishes... If tht person robbed me... I will hv the right to go against law...
This is a similar case... whether Iraj copied indian tracks or nt.. I dnt knw... but 1 thing I knw.. he was not sued... so mayb he hasn't dn ny thng illegal... But in this case... if Irajs' creations have been illegally reproduced... thn he has the right to go in front of law against tht person... it's one of his rights... So as his fans... we can support him.... if we wish...
Tht's all I c! I'm 1 of Irajs fans... So I'll support him if thrz ny possible way... :yes:
Okkkkzzz... Aftr goin thru most of this thread... I thought I'd give my view point...
Say I robbed a person... Tht person can take legal actions against me... But if he ddnt... well.. lucky me... He he... BUT tht dsnt giv tht person the right to rob me ny time he wishes... If tht person robbed me... I will hv the right to go against law...
This is a similar case... whether Iraj copied indian tracks or nt.. I dnt knw... but 1 thing I knw.. he was not sued... so mayb he hasn't dn ny thng illegal... But in this case... if Irajs' creations have been illegally reproduced... thn he has the right to go in front of law against tht person... it's one of his rights... So as his fans... we can support him.... if we wish...
Tht's all I c! I'm 1 of Irajs fans... So I'll support him if thrz ny possible way... :yes:
Yes machan if someone proved he has done something illegal then he should be sued too. But in this case blaming a person without any facts is totally wrong.
We have to Banned This film..
Alaya
10-29-2007, 08:57 AM
oh
what is this bull shit.
they say India is the country which is very rich in music & films. then why do they copy other country's songs?
Then we have to conclude that all Indian songs and films are copied from other countries.
ya, Chori Chori song is also a copy of Informer by Snow. and Pretty Woman song also. Now Ninda Noyana handewe.... wtf???
and there are lot more songs they copy from other countries.
We are fullly against these things.
moonlight
10-29-2007, 09:01 AM
HOW CAN WE HELP FOR THAT?????
HOW CAN WE HELP FOR THAT?????
send this to all ur friends.. and tell about this.
moonlight
10-29-2007, 11:09 AM
year sure.. bt if iraj take a leagal action for that will it be cure????
cz they also have hindi copys neda?
i dnt knw more details abt that.
bt did they tk permision frm them to make sinhala copy???
complicated ne
any way will surely help on u frnd
send this to all ur friends.. and tell about this.
issara unge ewa api copy karanawa
den ape ewa un copy karanawa :lol:
year sure.. bt if iraj take a leagal action for that will it be cure????
cz they also have hindi copys neda?
i dnt knw more details abt that.
bt did they tk permision frm them to make sinhala copy???
complicated ne
any way will surely help on u frnd
Well as i see you haven't read the thread. Its nothing like If Iraj take legal action then indians will take legal action. If they have something to take legal action they will take it even if iraj there or not. I talked about indians and what their doing in India and in Srilanka in my previous post. So my dear sister please come out of the idea that srilankans copying all indian songs and they are the makers and we are the copiers. Its actually not srilankan whoz coping. You hear indian songs and beats all the time and you feel like its all copied from india. But ever thought who copied it? Is it really srilankan people? Who is doing it?
We are almost the biggest international market for indian music. We are like a colony of them when it comes to indian entertainment industry.
So if you can please read the thread before making comments. All answers are there. Its not really happening there as you think. Its totally different drama.
Anyway glad you supported this as a srilankan.
snoop_ug
10-29-2007, 11:34 AM
MONAVADA KERENNA ONI ????????
Just say what you feel like you support this or not machan
mozart
10-29-2007, 11:44 AM
issara unge ewa api copy karanawa
den ape ewa un copy karanawa :lol:
Hodai ne bun!!! SL music diyunu wela :lol:
Just say what you feel like you support this or not machan
ape ekata support eka dennethuwa wena kata dennada?
api irajge peththe :yes:
Hodai ne bun!!! SL music diyunu wela :lol: nethuwa nethawa sehenna sthutu wenna puluwan :yes::D
Tharindu DR
10-29-2007, 11:55 AM
Owa Balu wada......It's one of my favorite songs......
Iraj Bro We R with you...
THE_ONE
10-29-2007, 11:56 AM
Apith enawa oni dekata me wage dewalwalata api wirudda wenna oni....kamathi nam protest ekak unath karamu...
ufirst
10-29-2007, 12:03 PM
iraj must take action for this
amila325
10-29-2007, 12:33 PM
umba india we ekek da.. he he.. nattam india wala ekek umbata mokak hari kalada
hi hi hi man hithuweth ehenmai ath ithin eyatath eya kemathi de kiyanna puluwanne .
amila325
10-29-2007, 12:37 PM
man dan ahuwa a song eka. shit it is the same melody and stuff ne. meaning ekanam danne ne man. anyway it should be removed.
exceed
10-29-2007, 02:19 PM
im teling this. music is a world language. Bathiya is copying song much. evein his first album. but they didnt come to take legal action for BnS know? this is the thing, Iraj is a great talented person. we are listening his songs, we are playing his songs in Djs, thatz are happeing songs. but if he thinks that this is a bad thing, thatz a great bad idea. if its what is mata sithanna ba, Aloke, but he didnt put any details about the original tracks in the CD. then anyone think that thats his own creation. GTRZ, if you think that im going to blame Iraj, it s not a thing. this is the reality. plz dnt misunderstand me. im aggry with Mozart too.
and the thing is this is a good opportunity for Iraj coz if som one took his tune thatz a big thing.
(amaradeva also has copied a song, but the first owner didnt tell anythung to Amaradeva know?)
however, if he thinks that he wnts to tak som legal action, according to Sri lanaka we hv to support him
you are rigght.But Iraj has taken permition to Mata Sithana Ba from Rukmani Deevi Sansadaya.So this damn Indians didn't take licens from Iraj.
DIRTY X
10-29-2007, 02:43 PM
ape ekata support eka dennethuwa wena kata dennada?
api irajge peththe :yes:
hehe eka wenna athi free album eka share kale :P :lol:
nokia
10-29-2007, 02:49 PM
tamil song is a big SHIt ori is great
im teling this. music is a world language. Bathiya is copying song much. evein his first album. but they didnt come to take legal action for BnS know? this is the thing, Iraj is a great talented person. we are listening his songs, we are playing his songs in Djs, thatz are happeing songs. but if he thinks that this is a bad thing, thatz a great bad idea. if its what is mata sithanna ba, Aloke, but he didnt put any details about the original tracks in the CD. then anyone think that thats his own creation. GTRZ, if you think that im going to blame Iraj, it s not a thing. this is the reality. plz dnt misunderstand me. im aggry with Mozart too.
and the thing is this is a good opportunity for Iraj coz if som one took his tune thatz a big thing.
(amaradeva also has copied a song, but the first owner didnt tell anythung to Amaradeva know?)
however, if he thinks that he wnts to tak som legal action, according to Sri lanaka we hv to support him
Well machan i don't care even if you blame anyone with proper facts. I am not favoring any artist here. What i tried to point out was people shouting without any prove who has the legal rights and who don't have. And people think india is the originator and we are all just copying from them. Anyway if you read my other posts you can get more info.
Anyway this new fact about adding old melody owners name with the new production is ethical. But actually copyright law or general business world don't like to use that method. So it should be changed from the law depending on how much you took from the old track.
If i give you examples tons of young people and new bands from india reproduce old melody and worst than that remix same original track without any change. They sell it play over the world, play on MTV etc.. without even saying name of the old melody or the owners. even lot of films are like that based on a old film but they don't say the info in public in a proper way. From the law after you pay them you can make the owner silent from a legal agreement. Its so common in western countries, asia and all over the world.
Related to media industry google acquired youtube never say whoz the original owner or anything. Adobe acquired macromedia, flikr, e-groups from yahoo etc..
As i think from the law it should be changed. But it depends on the people in the media industry around the world. If most of them liked it then you can change the law.
About Amaradewa using the other persons melody i think its related to my previous post about srilankan singers going to india to learn music and working with them. Using the music of indian gurus etc.. Anyway i am not sure its applicable to the specific track you talking about.
nokia
10-29-2007, 02:50 PM
f**k dis tamil Shit
Iraj you must take the action 4 dis
Dan01
10-29-2007, 06:07 PM
hamada kopy karana iraj ta honda vade.....
chalitha135
10-29-2007, 07:45 PM
this is wrong...i support iraj...he can take legal actions for this...he should do it quickly...
cj4ever
10-29-2007, 09:59 PM
APEN HELP EKAK ONE KIYAPAN IRAJ TA JAYAVEVA
hamada kopy karana iraj ta honda vade.....
hehe Hey please read the thread before making comments machan. post with facts and something to support and prove your idea.
Iraj copied from your song? Feels like that from what you were saying.
lansoft
10-30-2007, 01:55 PM
Iraj should sue the producer
Mayuka_sl
11-01-2007, 05:07 PM
This is damn, ******* wrong !!! Iraj should take action about this!! This is a Srilankan Creation and this song should Go arround the world as A SRILANKAN CREATION!! not as a indian copy!! We shall support you!!!
thummu
11-01-2007, 07:31 PM
yeah man if we can copy their music why cant they do the same i mean cmon man finaly they started to copy us thats huge machan do u feel me .... keep up the good work iraj..... finaly we have rock the india hoooooooo hooooooooooo
rukshankb
11-01-2007, 07:48 PM
Iraj should take an action now!!!!!!!!!!!!
asitha_rules
11-03-2007, 02:22 AM
The Sri Lankan people should raise their voices against this injustice. Hope Iraj's rights are not violated.
I am totally against this event
lioness
11-07-2007, 03:23 AM
thats totally unfair!, iraj should definatly take legal action
ctissera
11-07-2007, 07:01 AM
ookata nadu damma kiyala dinanna bari vei mokada un eka note ekak venas karapu gaman un karala thiyenne vena song ekak kiyala oppu karanna puluvan indian kaarayoo maha ballone,,,, unta thibune iraj gen ahala agrement ekakata ooka gannane
mona unath ooken eka honda deyak venava sri lankan music vala honda kama lookema danagannava
Sahan_se
11-07-2007, 07:17 AM
Ya Ya Ya i heard Also machan.
Tharindu DR
11-07-2007, 07:58 AM
Apoo Kaala kanni......
Tharindu DR
11-07-2007, 08:01 AM
Wal Baaawo....
byforce
11-07-2007, 10:32 AM
i ges yeah, he has the right to sue. Cos it is copy. But machan...wat abt the stuff sri lankans copied from indianseven a song of BnS was thr in a tamil movie..witht he same voicing of the rap but the different vocals as it is tamil...i ges dat wud hav legally done but permission. But still v copy too to be hhonest then v shud see hw much dey will hav to sue us.. no offense guys jus my view...But iraj should sue thats the only thing to do..
IRAJ AYYA! NADUWAK DAALA HODA WANDIYAK ILLANNA.. API OYATH EKKA INNAWA..
buddhika81
11-07-2007, 07:15 PM
hey let them do it. when ppl see that iraj become famous.we can say indians are copiyng our things.be coparative.
RAZOR xxxxx
11-12-2007, 11:52 AM
any newsssssssss????????whts goin on there
Kalegana
11-12-2007, 02:27 PM
Machan, Nikamata hitapan.ape aya indian songs keeyak copy karala tiyanawada?Eaka nisa mun copy karanne ati
Jotipalama henata copy karala tiyanawa
ishta
11-13-2007, 01:57 PM
i agree
sindukade1
11-13-2007, 02:04 PM
Ela Ela okunta hoda padamak ugananna ona
praneeth514
12-23-2007, 08:47 AM
ok lets do dat
badtnc
12-23-2007, 09:20 AM
chan meka waradi. eath iraj kohomada mekata wiruddawa katha karanne. iraj mkarapu song walin 90%kma wage indin songs wala kali mwalin gaththa ewane. anith 10% ape parana sinhala songs walin gaththa ewane. horek kohomada thawath horekta wiruddawa police yanne......
cha_sl
12-23-2007, 09:25 AM
chan meka waradi. eath iraj kohomada mekata wiruddawa katha karanne. iraj mkarapu song walin 90%kma wage indin songs wala kali mwalin gaththa ewane. anith 10% ape parana sinhala songs walin gaththa ewane. horek kohomada thawath horekta wiruddawa police yanne......
ehema kiyanna epa.. iraj ape ekak .. meita kalin indiyawe un ape songs copi karala naa.. iraj ge song eka full coppy karala.. iraj makata katha nokara hitaya nam api issara kaale ungen copy karapuwata hariyanna ape songs okkomo un copy karai.. :angry:
Kalindugayan
12-23-2007, 09:39 AM
comon iraj
rash87
12-23-2007, 09:44 AM
All I can say is tht I'll jst support our artists, but I honestly think wht shud happen is tht director shud include Iraj's name n the problem will b solved!:):):):):):)
ereshthush
12-23-2007, 09:48 AM
monawada apen kerenna ooni
chanaka89
12-23-2007, 09:59 AM
Copied Song Vilaiyattu [Nilavennila Indha Thevadhai]
http://www.speedyshare.com/868157370.html
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Santa
12-24-2007, 01:00 PM
ooooohhhh
dhanushka7171
12-24-2007, 01:13 PM
machan we will giv our support 2 Iraj...But Hw can I do it???....
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