LTTE's War in x-pert's point of view.

[x-pert]

This is a summarised version of an unbiased analysis, and I was never born when most of these things occur. So I'm not 100% sure about the correctness of post. Older people pls correct me if I'm wrong. [But you have to have a DOB before 1977]


Mr. S W R D Bandaranaike ruled the country.
Tamil people and Sinhala people lived together.
But there was some discrimination because Tamils were the minority.

Then came the era of Sirimavo.
Still there was some discrimination but Sirimavo tackled it strategically.
She bought vegies, grain, fruits from Jaffna farmers. So they became rich hence they lived peacefully.

Then there was this turning point. J R Jayawardena was elected in 1977.
He got 5 out of 6 votes in Sri Lanka. Sirimavo only got 6 or 7 seats. Hence Tamil party became the opposition. And the foreign community thought the Tamils will become the next ruling government in SL.

Western countries always wanted to have a war to sell their weaponry basically.

J R Jayawardena introduced Open Economy in SL. So SL could buy stuff from foreig countries for a much lesser price than buying from the inland farmers including the tamil farmers in Jaffna.

This was a massive hit to the Tamil Farmers because selling those items was the main occupation in Jaffna. And that's the main reason for they being so rich those days.

Tamil people may be intelligent. But if some one is telling they are brainy than Sinhala people that is not a proven fact. But in the history there were few top notch Tamil leaders heading several companies in the country. That's because Sinhala people never wanted to learn tamil and Tamil people have a tendency to give more marks for Tamil people in A/L s and other exams. So they pased all the exams etc.

Then there was this guy, called Prabakaran. who didn't want to go to school but wanted to watch cow boy movies resulted to SL by the open economy. When he was in his youth, he wanted to have a revolution because he didn't like the current situation of the Tamils. [Basically they couldn't sell their crop to Sri Lankan government]

Apparently Prabakaran is a patient having a mental disorder called Parabola disease.

So Praba and another friend of his called Mahaththaya wanted to have a revolution and they somehow able to get a pistol from somewhere.

One day Prabha killed an army soldier, actually a civil engineer in Jaffna. This is mainly with the intention to start a war.

SL Government sent a group of 13 soldiers to investigate the situation.

These 13 soldiers were killed by a Claymore mine.

Then there was this black mark called the Black july. (Kalu juliya)

Sinhala people in Colombo started killing Tamils in Colombo and as a result almost all the tamils went to Jaffna where there was a good situation for them with the leadership of Prabha. Then the tamils also started the war.

Killings went on and on.

Indian Peace Keeping Forces (IPKF) came to Sri Lanka to give support to the Sri Lankan forces to wipe off LTTE from the surface. But they did many bad things too. As an example raping women.

Again there was a situation where they had to have an election. And R Premadasa gave a promise saying that he will send the IPKF back to India. For 2 reasons. IPKF was doing bad stuff for SL women as well. And SL people thought someday India will capture the control of SL. (Including Rajiv Gandhi)

So people wanted to have Premadasa as the president.

After being the president, Premadasa discussed with LTTE for a solution. mainly to send the IPKF back. LTTE and Premadasa had 2 different agendas in this scenario. So ultimately Premadasa gave weapons to LTTE to kick IPKF out meanwhile discussing with India about the negotiation. After some time Rajiv Gandhi ordered IPKF to fall back to India.

But as a personal revenge Prabha killed Rajiv Gandhi. This was the biggest mistake prabha has done in his history. For the first time he has given a chance to his heart to act instead of his mind.

So now the LTTE have more weapons and many tamils supported Prabha. So here we are... with a war having a history of 25 years.

In Jaffna, casts play a huge role. Prabha is from the lowest cast called commonly as "sakkili" the people who wash toilets. But because of the JRs open economy, Tamils have very few options. So they had to support a leadership. They chose Prabha.

Western countries played a huge role in starting this war. Mainly the British. They are the people who introduced this divide. They wanted to have 50 : 50 in the Parliment (Sinhala : Tamil) where there was only a minority of Tamils in Sri Lanka.

So mainly, British people, Sinhala people, Tamil people, JR's open economy are the main reasons for this war.



[This is an answer for DJ Parker ;)]

[Thenura]

ela ela .....tnx for dis machan...

[x-pert]

ela ela .....tnx for dis machan...

Ane bung... Daala winaadi 5k yanna kalin uba kiyewwe kohomada mechchara godak... Nikan boruwata Ela kiyanna epa bung :lol:

Adu paadu kiyapan ela nokiya.

[Thenura]

Ane bung... Daala winaadi 5k yanna kalin uba kiyewwe kohomada mechchara godak... Nikan boruwata Ela kiyanna epa bung :lol:

Adu paadu kiyapan ela nokiya.
ai meke ehen mehen kiyawanna berida...

[Thenura]

mama LTTE war gena danne ne....history eka gena thibuna tika beluwe...

[x-pert]

mama LTTE war gena danne ne....history eka gena thibuna tika beluwe...

Happa.. meeke okkoma history eka nam naha habai... Ambaanaka liyanna wenawa echchara ooni nam... Anika hari eka mokakda waradi eka mokakda kiyala matama sure naha...

[Thenura]

Anika hari eka mokakda waradi eka mokakda kiyala matama sure naha...
eka hemogena prashnayak ne banz ?

[fazaal24]

looks intrestng..i'll read the whole..and giv a comment:D

[Thenura]

Xpert ubata replies ewanna wela yanawa ne ban ?

[x-pert]

Xpert ubata replies ewanna wela yanawa ne ban ?

Eh kiyanne...? Kamak naha bung parakku unaata hehe

[Thenura]

Eh kiyanne...? Kamak naha bung parakku unaata hehe
mama hituwe ekama thread eke innawa kiyala....wena threadswalatath replies daanna epay ne ?

ape scl eke sir History hariyata kiyala denne ne banz :rofl: :baffled:

[x-pert]

mama hituwe ekama thread eke innawa kiyala....wena threadswalatath replies daanna epay ne ?

ape scl eke sir History hariyata kiyala denne ne banz :rofl: :baffled:

:lol::lol::lol: naha naha mama normally raumak gihin thamai aayith mul thread ekata enne :D

[Ranhiru]

Hmm...so this is how it all began.....hmm...thanx a lot machan..I never knew about how the War in SL started...

[fazaal24]

Cool man...That parabola disease is it true..??:eek:

And i hav heard the word sakkilli in many occasions..but only today knew the meaning..:lol:

[Thenura]

:lol::lol::lol: naha naha mama normally raumak gihin thamai aayith mul thread ekata enne :D
:lol: nitrous ehema nedda .?

[x-pert]

Hmm...so this is how it all began.....hmm...thanx a lot machan..I never knew about how the War in SL started...

Hmm... I guess so machang..

Main sources: My dad [Retired Army officer], My grandfather [A doctor who was in WW II], A book written by Adela Balasingham (This is highly biased to LTTE), Few Tamils live in British who were there in Jaffna those days

Anyway thanks for the comment machang.

[Thenura]

Hmm... I guess so machang..

Main sources: My dad [Retired Army officer], My grandfather [A doctor who was in WW II], A book written by Adela Balasingham (This is highly biased to LTTE), Few Tamils live in British who were there in Jaffna those days

Anyway thanks for the comment machang.
ela sources tika

[x-pert]

Cool man...That parabola disease is it true..??:eek:

And i hav heard the word sakkilli in many occasions..but only today knew the meaning..:lol:

Not quite sure about the actual spellings. But yes :yes:

It was there on Mrs Balasinghams book. (Her autobiography - The will to freedom)

[fazaal24]

Not quite sure about the actual spellings. But yes :yes:

It was there on Mrs Balasinghams book. (Her autobiography - The will to freedom)

cool...thanks macho..!so reason 4 upcomin of LTTE might b bcus JR.??

[Ranhiru]

Dunno ban when this damn thing will be over....yesterday and today both :( :(

[x-pert]

cool...thanks macho..!so reason 4 upcomin of LTTE might b bcus JR.??

It was just another reason machang.

Before that also there were few disciriminations and few fights for Power.

I think the main and the first reason is the British. And the other Western countries. They are the ones who created the thirst fo power. And they knew as long as there is a war in a country, it will not develop. Western countries dont like developed countries.

[x-pert]

Dunno ban when this damn thing will be over....yesterday and today both :( :(

:( Yeah bung....

But let's wait and see... I have a good beleif in MRs war agenda. And the 3 chieves also have promised saying they will end this in 2008.

If they did not end it in 2008, then sorry.... This will be very hard to end. And I will never beleive in Sri Lankan system. [And of cause my father :lol:]

[Thenura]

It was just another reason machang.

Before that also there were few disciriminations and few fights for Power.

I think the main and the first reason is the British. And the other Western countries. They are the ones who created the thirst fo power. And they knew as long as there is a war in a country, it will not develop. Western countries dont like developed countries.
like USA,UK ?

[Eros]

Sri Lankan politicianslath sahenna waga kiyanna one . Eyalage power ekata kaadara kamath eka hethuwak prabha mechchara shakthimath wenna. Nice thread machan

[x-pert]

like USA ne ?

JR alluwe USA ne mulinma... anith aya India allan innakota JR ta ooni une USA allannane. mokada IPKF eka elawanna. Habai US un ethanadi kale baha kiyapu eka.

USA, UK okkomatama ooni lankaawe yudde iwara wenne nathuwa innawa dakinnane.

[Thenura]

Sri Lankan politicianslath sahenna waga kiyanna one . Eyalage power ekata kaadara kamath eka hethuwak prabha mechchara shakthimath wenna. Nice thread machan
samahara aya waga kiyanna one athi ban den pena widiyata ehemai hitenne ..history gena thama igena gannawa

[Thenura]

JR alluwe USA ne mulinma... anith aya India allan innakota JR ta ooni une USA allannane. mokada IPKF eka elawanna. Habai US un ethanadi kale baha kiyapu eka.

USA, UK okkomatama ooni lankaawe yudde iwara wenne nathuwa innawa dakinnane.
ow Iraq scn ekath ehema ekak da ban

[x-pert]

Sri Lankan politicianslath sahenna waga kiyanna one . Eyalage power ekata kaadara kamath eka hethuwak prabha mechchara shakthimath wenna. Nice thread machan

Sri Lankan politicians wagema machang eda hitapu Sinhalayath wagakiyanna ooni saahenna. Mokada eda army eke 13k maruwa ekat godak kalabala une naththam ada samaharawita war ekak nathi wenna ida thibuna.

Hodama scene eka, eda 13k maruna kiyala kalabala wechcha kattiya dan 2000 - 3000 eka paara poonarin waladi marunahama nikan idapu eka.

It's just the poor attitudes and the mentality machang.

[x-pert]

ow Iraq scn ekath ehema ekak da ban

Iraq, Indo-Pakistan okkoma ookun thamai ithin athi kale...

[Thenura]

Iraq, Indo-Pakistan okkoma ookun thamai ithin athi kale...
prba meruwoth kohoma hari wena ekak enne ne eewage balu molayak thiyena ekak ....praba meruwa kiyanne LTTE th meruwa thama

[x-pert]

prba meruwoth kohoma hari wena ekak enne ne eewage balu molayak thiyena ekak ....praba meruwa kiyanne LTTE th meruwa thama

Prabha maruwoth unge moral eka bahinawa. Habai yudde nawathee kiyala hithanna baha...

Pottu amman thamai dan unta inna mola kaaraya. oowa maruwanam Prabha maruwata wadiya loku wenasak wenna puluwan.

Kaawawath marala nikan idala wadakuth naha machang... Oya jaathiwaade aagamwaade aussana unwath marala daanna ooni.

[Eros]

Sri Lankan politicians wagema machang eda hitapu Sinhalayath wagakiyanna ooni saahenna. Mokada eda army eke 13k maruwa ekat godak kalabala une naththam ada samaharawita war ekak nathi wenna ida thibuna.

Hodama scene eka, eda 13k maruna kiyala kalabala wechcha kattiya dan 2000 - 3000 eka paara poonarin waladi marunahama nikan idapu eka.

It's just the poor attitudes and the mentality machang.

OW machang..Ada war eken marena soldierslage ganana news walin ahanne hariyata match eke score eka ahanawa wage..Eth eda jaathiwadi kalabala waladi samahara sinhala aya thirisan widihata tamil ayata hinsa karala e ayawa kolla kaawa.Mamath mage parensla kiyana ewagenui me gena danne.

[Thenura]

Prabha maruwoth unge moral eka bahinawa. Habai yudde nawathee kiyala hithanna baha...

Pottu amman thamai dan unta inna mola kaaraya. oowa maruwanam Prabha maruwata wadiya loku wenasak wenna puluwan.

Kaawawath marala nikan idala wadakuth naha machang... Oya jaathiwaade aagamwaade aussana unwath marala daanna ooni.
issara nam SL wala ships hitan hadanawa..but passe apu ponn*yo tika rata kaala..balapan...ara keppetipola ge oluwa Sl booruwo tika wala daala ....ethana smarakayak da koheda hadala...balapan ehema mola thiyena ewun inne

[Diyathi]

Ammo kiyewwe na.. but sure mokak hari wadagath deyak kiyala hehe Sirimavo.
gnamamath danawa.. hehe .. kawda manda kenek.. sinhala witharak karanna gihin neda oya wage abaddiyak une.. thanksss

[DJAT]

ela ela

[DJ.Parker]

This is a summarised version of an unbiased analysis, and I was never born when most of these things occur. So I'm not 100% sure about the correctness of post. Older people pls correct me if I'm wrong. [But you have to have a DOB before 1977]


Mr. S W R D Bandaranaike ruled the country.
Tamil people and Sinhala people lived together.
But there was some discrimination because Tamils were the minority.

Then came the era of Sirimavo.
Still there was some discrimination but Sirimavo tackled it strategically.
She bought vegies, grain, fruits from Jaffna farmers. So they became rich hence they lived peacefully.

Then there was this turning point. J R Jayawardena was elected in 1977.
He got 5 out of 6 votes in Sri Lanka. Sirimavo only got 6 or 7 seats. Hence Tamil party became the opposition. And the foreign community thought the Tamils will become the next ruling government in SL.

Western countries always wanted to have a war to sell their weaponry basically.

J R Jayawardena introduced Open Economy in SL. So SL could buy stuff from foreig countries for a much lesser price than buying from the inland farmers including the tamil farmers in Jaffna.

This was a massive hit to the Tamil Farmers because selling those items was the main occupation in Jaffna. And that's the main reason for they being so rich those days.

Tamil people may be intelligent. But if some one is telling they are brainy than Sinhala people that is not a proven fact. But in the history there were few top notch Tamil leaders heading several companies in the country. That's because Sinhala people never wanted to learn tamil and Tamil people have a tendency to give more marks for Tamil people in A/L s and other exams. So they pased all the exams etc.

Then there was this guy, called Prabakaran. who didn't want to go to school but wanted to watch cow boy movies resulted to SL by the open economy. When he was in his youth, he wanted to have a revolution because he didn't like the current situation of the Tamils.

[B]Apparently Prabakaran is a patient having a mental disorder called Parabola disease.

So Praba and another friend of his called Mahaththaya wanted to have a revolution and they somehow able to get a pistol from somewhere.

One day Prabha killed an army soldier, actually a civil engineer in Jaffna. This is mainly with the intention to start a war.

SL Government sent a group of 13 soldiers to investigate the situation.

These 13 soldiers were killed by a Claymore mine.

Then there was this black mark called the Black july. (Kalu juliya)

Sinhala people in Colombo started killing Tamils in Colombo and as a result almost all the tamils went to Jaffna where there was a good situation for them with the leadership of Prabha. Then the tamils also started the war.

Killings went on and on.

Indian Peace Keeping Forces (IPKF) came to Sri Lanka to give support to the Sri Lankan forces to wipe off LTTE from the surface. But they did many bad things too. As an example raping women.

Again there was a situation where they had to have an election. And R Premadasa gave a promise saying that he will send the IPKF back to India. For 2 reasons. IPKF was doing bad stuff for SL women as well. And SL people thought someday India will capture the control of SL. (Including Rajiv Gandhi)

So people wanted to have Premadasa as the president.

After being the president, Premadasa discussed with LTTE for a solution. mainly to send the IPKF back. LTTE and Premadasa had 2 different agendas in this scenario. So ultimately Premadasa gave weapons to LTTE to kick IPKF out meanwhile discussing with India about the negotiation. After some time Rajiv Gandhi ordered IPKF to fall back to India.

But as a personal revenge Prabha killed Rajiv Gandhi. This was the biggest mistake prabha has done in his history. For the first time he has given a chance to his heart to act instead of his mind.

So now the LTTE have more weapons and many tamils supported Prabha. So here we are... with a war having a history of 25 years.

In Jaffna, casts play a huge role. Prabha is from the lowest cast called commonly as "sakkili" the people who wash toilets. But because of the JRs open economy, Tamils have very few options. So they had to support a leadership. They chose Prabha.

Western countries played a huge role in starting this war. Mainly the British. They are the people who introduced this divide. They wanted to have 50 : 50 in the Parliment (Sinhala : Tamil) where there was only a minority of Tamils in Sri Lanka.

So mainly, British people, Sinhala people, Tamil people, JR's open economy are the main reasons for this war.



[This is an answer for DJ Parker ;)]


tnx:)
what is parabola disease?
I thought he killed doreyuppa-da mayor of jafna
and what's that premadasa's secret bond?


so umm basically its cos of biasness I guess

and bandaranayake ge "sinhala only act" ekath hethuwak neda?

The Sinhala Only Act (formally the Official Language Act) was a law passed in the Sri Lankan parliament in 1956.

The law mandated Sinhala, the language of Sri Lanka's majority Sinhalese community, which is spoken by over 90% of Sri Lanka's population, as the sole official language of Sri Lanka. Supporters of the law saw it as an attempt by a community that had just gained independence to distance themselves from their colonial masters, while its opponents viewed it as an attempt by the linguistic majority to impose its will on minorities.

[x-pert]

OW machang..Ada war eken marena soldierslage ganana news walin ahanne hariyata match eke score eka ahanawa wage..Eth eda jaathiwadi kalabala waladi samahara sinhala aya thirisan widihata tamil ayata hinsa karala e ayawa kolla kaawa.Mamath mage parensla kiyana ewagenui me gena danne.

Ya machang eekane... And dan kiyanawa okkoma Tamil kotilu...

2 sides of the coin..... Godak tamil aya kotinta support karana eka aththa. Habai okkoma newei. And support kalath mukuth kiyannath baha mokada eyaalata or eyaalage kauru hari relation kenekta sinhala miniha gahala thiyena nisa...

Machang neethiya minissu athata gaththahama oowa thamai ithin wenne... Dan ithin ara Ati kehel kaapu rilau kiyala S Mahinda himi kiyuwa wage api niyo niyo innawa...

[northtech]

Agree machan !!!!

[DJ.Parker]

Sri Lankan politicians wagema machang eda hitapu Sinhalayath wagakiyanna ooni saahenna. Mokada eda army eke 13k maruwa ekat godak kalabala une naththam ada samaharawita war ekak nathi wenna ida thibuna.

Hodama scene eka, eda 13k maruna kiyala kalabala wechcha kattiya dan 2000 - 3000 eka paara poonarin waladi marunahama nikan idapu eka.

It's just the poor attitudes and the mentality machang.



Ya machang eekane... And dan kiyanawa okkoma Tamil kotilu...

2 sides of the coin..... Godak tamil aya kotinta support karana eka aththa. Habai okkoma newei. And support kalath mukuth kiyannath baha mokada eyaalata or eyaalage kauru hari relation kenekta sinhala miniha gahala thiyena nisa...

Machang neethiya minissu athata gaththahama oowa thamai ithin wenne... Dan ithin ara Ati kehel kaapu rilau kiyala S Mahinda himi kiyuwa wage api niyo niyo innawa...

oka thama mage view eka:)
rapa daala thibba T.Maheswarange thread eke karapuwata thama TM ta labune kiyala........ so itin apitath ehemane

[Eros]

Ya machang eekane... And dan kiyanawa okkoma Tamil kotilu...

2 sides of the coin..... Godak tamil aya kotinta support karana eka aththa. Habai okkoma newei. And support kalath mukuth kiyannath baha mokada eyaalata or eyaalage kauru hari relation kenekta sinhala miniha gahala thiyena nisa...

Machang neethiya minissu athata gaththahama oowa thamai ithin wenne... Dan ithin ara Ati kehel kaapu rilau kiyala S Mahinda himi kiyuwa wage api niyo niyo innawa...

OW machan..Dan bomb ekak pipiruwath ane ithin api marune nahane kiyala kalakanni sathutak labana manasikathwaye thamai ape aya inne.
ape minissu kohomath anunge guli kanna hari hapannu. Dan balanna British people mehe rule karana kaale athi karapu Udarata,pahatharata bedhaya thawama thiyanawane

[sri_lion]

It was just another reason machang.

Before that also there were few disciriminations and few fights for Power.

I think the main and the first reason is the British. And the other Western countries. They are the ones who created the thirst fo power. And they knew as long as there is a war in a country, it will not develop. Western countries dont like developed countries.

Thanx x-pert for your views on this matter and your effort to educate people..

If I may also add...

British always knew who this land belongs to... Sinhalese just lived in the Island they really had no interest what so ever to dig the history because they lived in peace.. But as we know British always explored they found many archaeological evidence of lost Sinhalese civilization which was closely related to Buddhism!! Infact the famous Mahamewna Uyana (Kings Park) was rediscovered by C.P. Bell (states in his notes)

Now.... as LTTE claim this is Tamil's land but this hugely contradict to what they claim because the Sinhalese civilization is clear cut Buddhists and it still is!! Tamils are HINDUS and HINDU was born before Buddhism!! besides, there few or none HINDU monuments in Sri Lanka that dates back to what Anuradhapura and Pollonaruwa has to offer!! So does that mean all Tamil those days were Buddhists?:lol: :lol: And all of a sudden all of them changed to being HINDUS?

Because of this reason British started to destroy valuable Sri Lankan history....... for this particular reason in 1880's a well organized movement under the leadership of Anagarika Dharmapala and Walisinghe Harischandra was sent to Anuradhapura to protect the remaining historical places!

English knew this all along, and they knew well that Sinhalese would realize this someday and fight back... and English hated Sinhalese because they refused be labors of English tea plantations, and Tamils were easily acquired from India for these jobs (what do they care.. they just workers working for money)... English used them also to spy on Sinhalese to keep us on check and to monitor any Rebel actions against them!!

Selfish Tamil politicians such as Muttu Kumaraswamy, G.G. Ponnambalam, Chelvanayagam all asked for unfair 50-50 representation!! and started causing problems... English in the meanwhile happily watch both races fight over each other!!

[x-pert]

tnx:)
what is parabola disease?
I thought he killed doreyuppa-da mayor of jafna
and what's that premadasa's secret bond?


so umm basically its cos of biasness I guess

and bandaranayake ge "sinhala only act" ekath hethuwak neda?

:lol: uba mama wahapuwa okkoma allagaththa neda....

Yes he killed Dorey uppa as well machang. Thats before killing that army soldier. That's what I've heard. Prabha wanted to trigger a war from the begining you know... He was searching for a good opportunity I guess.

Sinhala and Tamil people didn't like IPKF interfering with the internal affairs in the country machang. So Premadasa took the advantage of that and gave promises saying he will send the IPKF bck to india during his election campaign.

So after being the President he wanted to fulfil his promise. He acted in 2 ways. 1 with discussing with Rajiv and the next one is giving weapons to LTTE to counter attack IPKF in a more stronger manner. LTTE showed their support in the begining but still they had their hidden agenda of getting as much as weapons as possible to attack SL forces after IPKF leave. Premadasa thought everything will be OK after IPKF is not there.

Actualy I think if IPKF was here for a bit longer time, they would have ended this war. There have been 10 Indian commandos for 1 LTTE guerrilla those days. And they have had some heavy weapons.

Bandaranaike's act wasn't the reason machang. British are.

British introduced 50 : 50 thing in the parliament where there was only less than 10% Tamils in Sri Lanka. There were some good leaders like Neelam Thiruchelvam. But most of them were not educated people.

So bandaranaike introduced this thing saying to have a proportionate depending on the Sinhala Tamil basis. I don't think that's bad though....

The disease is a mental disorder machang by some kinda parabola or something.. I can't remember it properly.

[x-pert]

oka thama mage view eka:)
rapa daala thibba T.Maheswarange thread eke karapuwata thama TM ta labune kiyala........ so itin apitath ehemane

Ditta dammawedaneeya karmaya kaatath podui.

But machang meaka nam ithin patan gaththe Prabha. I mean the war. not the spark.

[x-pert]

OW machan..Dan bomb ekak pipiruwath ane ithin api marune nahane kiyala kalakanni sathutak labana manasikathwaye thamai ape aya inne.
ape minissu kohomath anunge guli kanna hari hapannu. Dan balanna British people mehe rule karana kaale athi karapu Udarata,pahatharata bedhaya thawama thiyanawane

Owu sudda awith paarawal haduwa rata develop kala... But ape minissu ahu una suddage gata walatath...

[DJ.Parker]

:lol: uba mama wahapuwa okkoma allagaththa neda....

Yes he killed Dorey uppa as well machang. Thats before killing that army soldier. That's what I've heard. Prabha wanted to trigger a war from the begining you know... He was searching for a good opportunity I guess.

Sinhala and Tamil people didn't like IPKF interfering with the internal affairs in the country machang. So Premadasa took the advantage of that and gave promises saying he will send the IPKF bck to india during his election campaign.

So after being the President he wanted to fulfil his promise. He acted in 2 ways. 1 with discussing with Rajiv and the next one is giving weapons to LTTE to counter attack IPKF in a more stronger manner. LTTE showed their support in the begining but still they had their hidden agenda of getting as much as weapons as possible to attack SL forces after IPKF leave. Premadasa thought everything will be OK after IPKF is not there.

Actualy I think if IPKF was here for a bit longer time, they would have ended this war. There have been 10 Indian commandos for 1 LTTE guerrilla those days. And they have had some heavy weapons.

Bandaranaike's act wasn't the reason machang. British are.

British introduced 50 : 50 thing in the parliament where there was only less than 10% Tamils in Sri Lanka. There were some good leaders like Neelam Thiruchelvam. But most of them were not educated people.

So bandaranaike introduced this thing saying to have a proportionate depending on the Sinhala Tamil basis. I don't think that's bad though....

The disease is a mental disorder machang by some kinda parabola or something.. I can't remember it properly.

tnx again
Proportionate scene eka dan nadda?
wots dat mental disease? as in wot r the symptoms n all?:)

n r v da only nation which has 2 national anthems?

[x-pert]

Thanx x-pert for your views on this matter and your effort to educate people..

If I may also add...

British always knew who this land belongs to... Sinhalese just lived in the Island they really had no interest what so ever to dig the history because they lived in peace.. But as we know British always explored they found many archaeological evidence of lost Sinhalese civilization which was closely related to Buddhism!! Infact the famous Mahamewna Uyana (Kings Park) was rediscovered by C.P. Bell (states in his notes)

Now.... as LTTE claim this is Tamil's land but this hugely contradict to what they claim because the Sinhalese civilization is clear cut Buddhists and it still is!! Tamils are HINDUS and HINDU was born before Buddhism!! besides, there few or none HINDU monuments in Sri Lanka that dates back to what Anuradhapura and Pollonaruwa has to offer!! So does that mean all Tamil those days were Buddhists?:lol: :lol: And all of a sudden all of them changed to being HINDUS?

Because of this reason British started to destroy valuable Sri Lankan history....... for this particular reason in 1880's a well organized movement under the leadership of Anagarika Dharmapala and Walisinghe Harischandra was sent to Anuradhapura to protect the remaining historical places!

English knew this all along, and they knew well that Sinhalese would realize this someday and fight back... and English hated Sinhalese because they refused be labors of English tea plantations, and Tamils were easily acquired from India for these jobs (what do they care.. they just workers working for money)... English used them also to spy on Sinhalese to keep us on check and to monitor any Rebel actions against them!!

Selfish Tamil politicians such as Muttu Kumaraswamy, G.G. Ponnambalam, Chelvanayagam all asked for unfair 50-50 representation!! and started causing problems... English in the meanwhile happily watch both races fight over each other!!

Exactly machang :)

And this is from another article:

Myth No. 1:

“Sinhale started after the arrival of prince Vijaya from North India while Tamils were there in Lanka before him”

This is such a lie and distortion of facts. Archaeological proof clearly shows that Lanka was inhabited by the human as early as 900,000 BC. Since then, there is solid archaeological evidence to prove that Lankans, who called themselves Hela people, were trying very hard to advance themselves into a civilization. Hela as Lanka was known at the time, was in the forefront of human progress in the region.

Dravidians arrived in India only around 7500 BC from somewhere in Mediterranean. Archaeologists have proof that Lankans had an established culture in existence by this time.
Meanwhile the Dravidians merged into the native Indian tribes all over India. When Aryans from the areas around Caspian Sea arrived in North India in 1500 BC, the Dravidians in the north mixed into the stronger Aryan culture. Dravidians survived the Aryan integration in South India as Aryans stopped in North India.

It is quite possible that later on, migrants and visitors arrived from all parts of India to Sri Lanka and vise versa as happens between any two countries. It is fair to say that from this point onwards there must have been some migration of South Indian Dravidians to Lanka as merchants. With them the Dravidian religion Hinduism must have arrived in Lanka just like the way other Indian religions such as Jainism arrived in Lanka. But these were NOT the native religion of the Lankans. Hela people practiced their own religions.
Prince Vijaya who landed in Lanka in 483BC, only took control of one of the towns and then mixed into this Hela civilization. Many such Indian migrants brought their religions to Lanka. Sinhalese ( derived from Sihalese – Sivu Helaya ) didn’t start from Vijaya onwards. Hela was always there in Sri Lanka, from the beginning.

Subsequently, after Sri Lanka became the centre of Buddhism, there were continuous migrations of the North Indian Buddhists from North Indian Aryan Kingdoms to Lanka. All these North Indian migrants, unlike the other migrants such as the ones from the South Indian Dravidian kingdoms, mixed into the Sihalese civilization adopting Sinhalese culture and principles of life. None of these North Indians formed ethnic ghettos in one corner of the island.

The great qualities of the Sinhalese which made Sinhalese unique people in the world, were introduced at two points of history. First, King Pandukabaya introduced the very first National qualities of the Sinhalese in 375 BC. Then, 129 years later, during King Devanampiyatissa’s reign, the great National philosophy which placed Lanka in the developed world, was introduced.

[DJ.Parker]

Ditta dammawedaneeya karmaya kaatath podui.

But machang meaka nam ithin patan gaththe Prabha. I mean the war. not the spark.

hmm......wenna thibune nathideyak wune:no:

[x-pert]

tnx again
Proportionate scene eka dan nadda?
wots dat mental disease? as in wot r the symptoms n all?:)

n r v da only nation which has 2 national anthems?


Proportionate sce eka machang ara Sri_lion kiyala thiyena 50:50 representation eka.

Tamils wanted to have 50% representation in the Parliament. while they being the minority of less than 10%.

2 national anthems...? What's that? I know only 1 ne... :baffled:

Don't know anything about that disease machang. Anyway Adel Balasingham has mentioned that due to the disease he could stand killing people in a cruel way, motivating to suicide, death etc. Sinhalen kiyuwoth, kaalakanni le bona yekek wage hasirenna puluwan una...

[x-pert]

hmm......wenna thibune nathideyak wune:no:


Wechcha deya una... Dan iwarayak karamu :D :D :D :D

[DJ.Parker]

Exactly machang :)

And this is from another article:

Myth No. 1:

“Sinhale started after the arrival of prince Vijaya from North India while Tamils were there in Lanka before him”

This is such a lie and distortion of facts. Archaeological proof clearly shows that Lanka was inhabited by the human as early as 900,000 BC. Since then, there is solid archaeological evidence to prove that Lankans, who called themselves Hela people, were trying very hard to advance themselves into a civilization. Hela as Lanka was known at the time, was in the forefront of human progress in the region.

Dravidians arrived in India only around 7500 BC from somewhere in Mediterranean. Archaeologists have proof that Lankans had an established culture in existence by this time.
Meanwhile the Dravidians merged into the native Indian tribes all over India. When Aryans from the areas around Caspian Sea arrived in North India in 1500 BC, the Dravidians in the north mixed into the stronger Aryan culture. Dravidians survived the Aryan integration in South India as Aryans stopped in North India.

It is quite possible that later on, migrants and visitors arrived from all parts of India to Sri Lanka and vise versa as happens between any two countries. It is fair to say that from this point onwards there must have been some migration of South Indian Dravidians to Lanka as merchants. With them the Dravidian religion Hinduism must have arrived in Lanka just like the way other Indian religions such as Jainism arrived in Lanka. But these were NOT the native religion of the Lankans. Hela people practiced their own religions.
Prince Vijaya who landed in Lanka in 483BC, only took control of one of the towns and then mixed into this Hela civilization. Many such Indian migrants brought their religions to Lanka. Sinhalese ( derived from Sihalese – Sivu Helaya ) didn’t start from Vijaya onwards. Hela was always there in Sri Lanka, from the beginning.


Subsequently, after Sri Lanka became the centre of Buddhism, there were continuous migrations of the North Indian Buddhists from North Indian Aryan Kingdoms to Lanka. All these North Indian migrants, unlike the other migrants such as the ones from the South Indian Dravidian kingdoms, mixed into the Sihalese civilization adopting Sinhalese culture and principles of life. None of these North Indians formed ethnic ghettos in one corner of the island.

The great qualities of the Sinhalese which made Sinhalese unique people in the world, were introduced at two points of history. First, King Pandukabaya introduced the very first National qualities of the Sinhalese in 375 BC. Then, 129 years later, during King Devanampiyatissa’s reign, the great National philosophy which placed Lanka in the developed world, was introduced.

saw this on rapa's thread. din know aryans were from Mediterranean
so muchan mahawansaya boru wenawa neda ehtakota?
sinhala patan gaththe vijaya+quweni kiyana eka?

[x-pert]

saw this on rapa's thread. din know aryans were from Mediterranean
so muchan mahawansaya boru wenawa neda ehtakota?
sinhala patan gaththe vijaya+quweni kiyana eka?

Mama mahawanse kiyawala nahane machang... So eeka nam danne naha...

[DJ.Parker]

Proportionate sce eka machang ara Sri_lion kiyala thiyena 50:50 representation eka.

Tamils wanted to have 50% representation in the Parliament. while they being the minority of less than 10%.

2 national anthems...? What's that? I know only 1 ne... :baffled:

Don't know anything about that disease machang. Anyway Adel Balasingham has mentioned that due to the disease he could stand killing people in a cruel way, motivating to suicide, death etc. Sinhalen kiyuwoth, kaalakanni le bona yekek wage hasirenna puluwan una...

50:50 neme mang kiyanne population eka anuwa
eg: buddihsts 300 christians 200 muslims 100 tamils 100

3:2:1:1 wage thibbanam wade iwarai ne:baffled:

ai national anthems dekak thiyenne.......sinhala ekai tamil ekai....eng witarai adu

[DJ.Parker]

Mama mahawanse kiyawala nahane machang... So eeka nam danne naha...

iskole kiyala deela nadda? kuvenige panala giya lamai thama waddo api pawatha enne vijaya+kuweni kiyala?:baffled:

[x-pert]

50:50 neme mang kiyanne population eka anuwa
eg: buddihsts 300 christians 200 muslims 100 tamils 100

3:2:1:1 wage thibbanam wade iwarai ne:baffled:

ai national anthems dekak thiyenne.......sinhala ekai tamil ekai....eng witarai adu

Naha naha aagam ekka nationalities patalawaganna epa.. hehe... :D

Owu ehema proportion ekak thamai Bandaranaike genaawe passe... Habai eeka 50:50 karanna British un ulpandam dunna and Tamil ayath illuwa. eekane une...

Passe oya deepu eka nathi karahama thamai kattiyata mala panne...

Siraawatama mama tamil ekak ahala nahane...

[x-pert]

iskole kiyala deela nadda? kuvenige panala giya lamai thama waddo api pawatha enne vijaya+kuweni kiyala?:baffled:

hehehe... Iskole kiyala dena dewal godak haryi kiyala kiyanna baha machang... :D

Igena gena iwara wela... thaniyenma igenaganna kaale aawama therenawa mona tharam waradi godak thiyenawada kiyala.. ;)

[DJ.Parker]

Naha naha aagam ekka nationalities patalawaganna epa.. hehe... :D

Owu ehema proportion ekak thamai Bandaranaike genaawe passe... Habai eeka 50:50 karanna British un ulpandam dunna and Tamil ayath illuwa. eekane une...

Passe oya deepu eka nathi karahama thamai kattiyata mala panne...

Siraawatama mama tamil ekak ahala nahane...

ahala naaa?:shocked:

thiyanawa bung:)

[DJ.Parker]

hehehe... Iskole kiyala dena dewal godak haryi kiyala kiyanna baha machang... :D

Igena gena iwara wela... thaniyenma igenaganna kaale aawama therenawa mona tharam waradi godak thiyenawada kiyala.. ;)

ya ekanam aththa:lol: :lol: :P

[fazaal24]

Hmm... I guess so machang..

Main sources: My dad [Retired Army officer], My grandfather [A doctor who was in WW II], A book written by Adela Balasingham (This is highly biased to LTTE), Few Tamils live in British who were there in Jaffna those days

Anyway thanks for the comment machang.

wow..u hav nice paramparaawa:)

[Kalindugayan]

20 min giya kiyawanna

[ereshthush]

digai needa godak poddak wela yanawa kiyawala passe reply karannam

[Tissaka]

really interesting bro. well i don't have much knowledge about this war as i born in 92' :)

but this taught me a lot i think. :yes:

a great post! :D

[nEoN_wHitE]

really interesting bro. well i don't have much knowledge about this war as i born in 92' :)

but this taught me a lot i think. :yes:

a great post! :D
ha??????????????????????????
:shocked:
31???

[Tissaka]

ha??????????????????????????
:shocked:
31???
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56771

:D ithin ithin.. kohomada bro.. :D kochchara kalekata passe da.. :)

[nEoN_wHitE]

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56771

:D ithin ithin.. kohomada bro.. :D kochchara kalekata passe da.. :)
ammat siri maxxa ne.. ur back nee:D:D:D
pissu kora ne
hehee
ya after a looooooooooooooong loooooong tym ne:D:D

macho dan nam wela na.. mata podak yanna one
heta wage set wemu ok;):D:D:D

soo nice 2 see u machozz:D
nitzzz

[shanX]

Too long :P

Hav to read smothr tym, hope it'd be unbiased :P

[fazaal24]

Too long :P

Hav to read smothr tym, hope it'd be unbiased :P

really worth reading than some crazy threads :)

[shanX]

really worth reading than some crazy threads :)
True, not much ppl care abt wt they post, rather than wasting server resources ;)

[x-pert]

really interesting bro. well i don't have much knowledge about this war as i born in 92' :)

but this taught me a lot i think. :yes:

a great post! :D

Ela ela machang :) Thanks for the comment and yes... These are true facts and many doen't know.

[fazaal24]

True, not much ppl care abt wt they post, rather than wasting server resources ;)

Exactly..!But the admins also like to keep posting:D

[x-pert]

Too long :P

Hav to read smothr tym, hope it'd be unbiased :P

Well... I tried my best to be unbiased machang.... Coz I had to use an equilibrium between Adel Balasingham and my grandfather :lol: :lol:

Read when you get some time and plz correct me if anything is wrong. I really need Tamil peoples' comments on this...

[shanX]

Exactly..!But the admins also like to keep posting:D
True, they also love quantity rather than quality :lol:

[DJ.Parker]

Well... I tried my best to be unbiased machang.... Coz I had to use an equilibrium between Adel Balasingham and my grandfather :lol: :lol:

Read when you get some time and plz correct me if anything is wrong. I really need Tamil peoples' comments on this...

hmm whos remainin?......... only sujakshan ne?

[x-pert]

hmm whos remainin?......... only sujakshan ne?

That's the known... shanX is also Tamil neda machang...?

and... hmmm.... Teron kiyala ekek innawa.... And balamuko... mole thiyena koti patiyek wath awilla mokak hari kiyayida kiyala...

[shanX]

Well... I tried my best to be unbiased machang.... Coz I had to use an equilibrium between Adel Balasingham and my grandfather :lol: :lol:

Read when you get some time and plz correct me if anything is wrong. I really need Tamil peoples' comments on this...
Heh heh kwl ;)

Try to divert some from a tamil forum, lyk the one sm postd sayin they want to hack ek :D

[x-pert]

Heh heh kwl ;)

Try to divert some from a tamil forum, lyk the one sm postd sayin they want to hack ek :D

I don't understand Tamil ne bung... If you know anything other than yarl, plz backlink this machang.

Only a few small kids are there in yarl. So that's not needed :)

[shanX]

That's the known... shanX is also Tamil neda machang...?

and... hmmm.... Teron kiyala ekek innawa.... And balamuko... mole thiyena koti patiyek wath awilla mokak hari kiyayida kiyala...
Am not tamil, but I know Tamil ;)

:lol: I don't have a race, am Sri Lankan :D

[shanX]

I don't understand Tamil ne bung... If you know anything other than yarl, plz backlink this machang.

Only a few small kids are there in yarl. So that's not needed :)
I do understand Tamil, but I dunno any Tamil forums bro ;)

[x-pert]

Am not tamil, but I know Tamil ;)

:lol: I don't have a race, am Sri Lankan :D

oops my bad... :lol: I really thought you were Tamil... :D

Anyway glad to have a Sri Lankan in da forum ;)

[fazaal24]

Am not tamil, but I know Tamil ;)

:lol: I don't have a race, am Sri Lankan :D

Thats da Spirit Man:yes:

[fazaal24]

True, they also love quantity rather than quality :lol:
:yes:

[samiram]

hmm...
thx for the info machan..
apeth gedara isara wadata hitapu kenath e daws wela army eke idala tiyenne..
eyath kiwwa me katawa.. Edawas wela wena mokada namak tama tibilath tiyenne mata mathaka naaa.. podi clan ekak army ekata attack kara krara idala tiyenne...
army ekata meka nawattana hodatama chance eka tibilath echara ganan aran naa..
kohomath kalu juliyen tama tamil aya mekaa godak ekatu wueneee....

oya sakkilii seene eka nam ata seen ekak machan.. eka nisa tama godak high class tamils la LTTE ekata support nattee.. eth ungen kappan ehema gannawalu maranawa kiyala..

ara indian army eka karapu wadath ataluu.. habay un tikak kal hitiya nam me udden edama iwara karanna tibba luu... echara army ekak awilla tiyenawa... ekay godak minissuu baya wela tiyenne... anith eka ape sinhala kolloth ehenam godak ithuru wenawa..

meka 2008 iwara karanwa kiyala kiyala tinawa man dakka patharee forces 3neme leaders la.. ehema wunoth nam hoday...

:)

[shanX]

oops my bad... :lol: I really thought you were Tamil... :D

Anyway glad to have a Sri Lankan in da forum ;)
:D ;)

[elastefan]

Try to give a comment after reading the whole

[x-pert]

hmm...
thx for the info machan..
apeth gedara isara wadata hitapu kenath e daws wela army eke idala tiyenne..
eyath kiwwa me katawa.. Edawas wela wena mokada namak tama tibilath tiyenne mata mathaka naaa.. podi clan ekak army ekata attack kara krara idala tiyenne...
army ekata meka nawattana hodatama chance eka tibilath echara ganan aran naa..
kohomath kalu juliyen tama tamil aya mekaa godak ekatu wueneee....

oya sakkilii seene eka nam ata seen ekak machan.. eka nisa tama godak high class tamils la LTTE ekata support nattee.. eth ungen kappan ehema gannawalu maranawa kiyala..

ara indian army eka karapu wadath ataluu.. habay un tikak kal hitiya nam me udden edama iwara karanna tibba luu... echara army ekak awilla tiyenawa... ekay godak minissuu baya wela tiyenne... anith eka ape sinhala kolloth ehenam godak ithuru wenawa..

meka 2008 iwara karanwa kiyala kiyala tinawa man dakka patharee forces 3neme leaders la.. ehema wunoth nam hoday...

:)

Yeah machang oya okkoma hari.. :yes:

mama thana thana replies waladi oowa okkoma kiyuwa podda podda :yes: Thanks for another source of evidence machang :)

[Tissaka]

ammat siri maxxa ne.. ur back nee:D:D:D
pissu kora ne
hehee
ya after a looooooooooooooong loooooong tym ne:D:D

macho dan nam wela na.. mata podak yanna one
heta wage set wemu ok;):D:D:D

soo nice 2 see u machozz:D
nitzzz
:D :D :D ela machooo.. ;) gd nite.. :)

[kasunsankalpana]

mama LTTE war gena danne ne....history eka gena thibuna tika beluwe...



Ane Thenura malliyo Lankawe nede inne?
Gedarin eliyata bahinne wath nathi eke.Pothak paththarayak wath kiyawapan.
Rate wena dewal gana poddak awadanen hetapan.Aluthen gaththa phone eke oba oba inne nathuwe:P

[x-pert]

wow..u hav nice paramparaawa:)


Ado... Katha katha kiyanna epa harida....

Paramparaawa newei mamath nice thamai :lol::lol::lol::lol:

[pavanayya]

ela ela machan.....

[pavanayya]

machan sure iwara wenawa banz...coz all this time we were attacin them 4m only 3 sides machan...now machan 4 sides walin gahanawa banz.......army commander expand karala machan coz he is expectin da promotion machan.....2500 i inne unge ape 150000 k innaw...dawasata 15 gane marala aug walin iwara karanawa kiwwa banz...........hehehe.....

[pavanayya]

scooby dooby doo.................

[x-pert]

machan sure iwara wenawa banz...coz all this time we were attacin them 4m only 3 sides machan...now machan 4 sides walin gahanawa banz.......army commander expand karala machan coz he is expectin da promotion machan.....2500 i inne unge ape 150000 k innaw...dawasata 15 gane marala aug walin iwara karanawa kiwwa banz...........hehehe.....

Owu mamath oya kathaawa ahala thiyenawa. :D

Balamuko me aurudde mokada wenne kiyala...

[binu_rulz]

machan dere was much more in Mr. Bandaraneike's era Im not old but I've studied da problem da entire Sinhala-Tamil thing started wen Bandaranaike used "Sinhala Pamanyi" as his Slogan for da election..... In order to win da majority votes he used told da sinhala ppl dat only Sinhalese will be the national language........And wen he tried to impliment dat Tamil people had a fasting in da Galleface SL ppl went dere and killed sme tamils.......Den began da first Tamil-Sinhala war in this century........

[pavanayya]

machan dere was much more in Mr. Bandaraneike's era Im not old but I've studied da problem da entire Sinhala-Tamil thing started wen Bandaranaike used "Sinhala Pamanyi" as his Slogan for da election..... In order to win da majority votes he used told da sinhala ppl dat only Sinhalese will be the national language........And wen he tried to impliment dat Tamil people had a fasting in da Galleface SL ppl went dere and killed sme tamils.......Den began da first Tamil-Sinhala war in this century........


ow ow machan sira......

[x-pert]

machan dere was much more in Mr. Bandaraneike's era Im not old but I've studied da problem da entire Sinhala-Tamil thing started wen Bandaranaike used "Sinhala Pamanyi" as his Slogan for da election..... In order to win da majority votes he used told da sinhala ppl dat only Sinhalese will be the national language........And wen he tried to impliment dat Tamil people had a fasting in da Galleface SL ppl went dere and killed sme tamils.......Den began da first Tamil-Sinhala war in this century........

I don't know about the killings machang. Never heard of it before.

But yes. There has been some discrimination from those days. :yes:
Actually he plays a big role in the sparks of this war.

Bringing Sinhala as the national language is not bad. But the implementation of it was very poor I guess. Actually he wanted to get rid of English language, but Tamils thought he is doing it for their language.

[Sujakshan]

macho.........!!
X-pert.....!!

but Ape Paeththe aya kiyana story eka Totally Diff from Diz 1 macho........!!

kokadha aeththa kokadha boru kiyala mamnam dhanne nae.......!!

coz!!

mama Edhawas wala ipadila nae ne......!!
lolz

[pavanayya]

Owu mamath oya kathaawa ahala thiyenawa. :D

Balamuko me aurudde mokada wenne kiyala...

ahala nemei machan oka aththa anz...coz my mum & r senior officers in da army(joint ops HQ)....oka ethanadi kiyala thiyenawalu......conferece ekekadi machan...........

[pavanayya]

macho.........!!
X-pert.....!!

but Ape Paeththe aya kiyana story eka Totally Diff from Diz 1 macho........!!

kokadha aeththa kokadha boru kiyala mamnam dhanne nae.......!!

coz!!

mama Edhawas wala ipadila nae ne......!!
lolz

ow banz mamath ipadenna hithalawath nehe....hehehe............

[pavanayya]

scooby dooby doo............

[samiram]

macho.........!!
X-pert.....!!

but Ape Paeththe aya kiyana story eka Totally Diff from Diz 1 macho........!!

kokadha aeththa kokadha boru kiyala mamnam dhanne nae.......!!

coz!!

mama Edhawas wala ipadila nae ne......!!
lolz

machan..
we like to here the story in your side too...
because we need to know the truth..
:)

[Sujakshan]

machan..
we like to here the story in your side too...
because we need to know the truth..
:)

i dunno da whole story macho.......!!

some ppls say dat war begun coz of SL Government they treat us like slaves...!!
SL armies Rapes Tamil Woments and bla bla bla....!!

[pavanayya]

machan..
we like to here the story in your side too...
because we need to know the truth..
:)
ow ow machan kiyapan banz..........ahanna asai..........:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[anurudda]

dnt knw much abt history... danne nati deewal godak tibuna machan, thanks..!

JR ge wiyavasthaawa tamai wiyavasthaawa... oka kiyawana ape leaderslata oka wenas karanna hitenne nati wennamane buwa eka liyala tiyenne!

[Sujakshan]

macho.......!!
i dunt wanna talk about thiz subjects macho....!!

[pavanayya]

dnt knw much abt history... danne nati deewal godak tibuna machan, thanks..!

JR ge wiyavasthaawa tamai wiyavasthaawa... oka kiyawana ape leaderslata oka wenas karanna hitenne nati wennamane buwa eka liyala tiyenne!

ow banz eka wenas karanna beri ekak machan...if da war ends machan precident may got a chance to change it banz......JR maara porak neda banz.....balathanhawa machan bala thnahawa.......hehehe.....:) :) :) :) :)

[pavanayya]

macho.......!!
i dunt wanna talk about thiz subjects macho....!!
ahh awulak nahe machoo.......homada NY peththe thorathuru machan.....????:) :) :) :) :) :) :)

[pavanayya]

hehehe...

[pavanayya]

scooby dooby doo............

[Sujakshan]

ahh awulak nahe machoo.......homada NY peththe thorathuru machan.....????:) :) :) :) :) :) :)
elakiri wage macho..!!
jeevithe kisi aulak nae..!!
umbage jeevithe kohomadha??
macho!!
X-pert dhaekkoth apiwa kai.......!!

mewage Thread ekak chat karanakota........!!
lolz

[pavanayya]

elakiri wage macho..!!
jeevithe kisi aulak nae..!!
umbage jeevithe kohomadha??
macho!!
X-pert dhaekkoth apiwa kai.......!!

mewage Thread ekak chat karanakota........!!
lolz
hehehe....awulak nehe wena thanaka set wemu ehenam machan....adoo kalekin banz mama EK eka peththe awe....lot of new ppl na?????jiwithe mal machan.....tika dawasai inna wenne banz...ayeth iskole patan gaththama busy wenawa banz......ado u knw hw 2 remove a harddisk machan?????

[Sujakshan]

hehehe....awulak nehe wena thanaka set wemu ehenam machan....adoo kalekin banz mama EK eka peththe awe....lot of new ppl na?????jiwithe mal machan.....tika dawasai inna wenne banz...ayeth iskole patan gaththama busy wenawa banz......ado u knw hw 2 remove a harddisk machan?????

Ela ela......!!

hmm.....!!
mama dhanne nae macho...!!
hard disk eka remove karanna...!!
lolz.......!!

aei aluth hard disk ekak gaththadha??

[anurudda]

ow banz eka wenas karanna beri ekak machan...if da war ends machan precident may got a chance to change it banz......JR maara porak neda banz.....balathanhawa machan bala thnahawa.......hehehe.....:) :) :) :) :)

ow ban bala thanhaawa nati ekek eeka kiyewwath ekata washiii welaaa nathi balathanhaa walut enna buwa eka liyala tiyenne...

president mama hitanne nah macho war eken passe oka wenas karai kiyala...; politicians can not be trust ban.... anyway kohoma hari meh LTTE ballo tika ikmanin suddayak karala daanawanam echcharai... :yes: :)

[eranda444]

math ennada :lol:

[x-pert]

macho.........!!
X-pert.....!!

but Ape Paeththe aya kiyana story eka Totally Diff from Diz 1 macho........!!

kokadha aeththa kokadha boru kiyala mamnam dhanne nae.......!!

coz!!

mama Edhawas wala ipadila nae ne......!!
lolz


Mama ipadilath naha machang... But we would like to hear your story as well machang.

[pavanayya]

Ela ela......!!

hmm.....!!
mama dhanne nae macho...!!
hard disk eka remove karanna...!!
lolz.......!!

aei aluth hard disk ekak gaththadha??
nehe banz mama kumarasiri ge(pissu poosage) gedara yanawa uu kiwwa hard eka galawagena enna kiyala.....hehehe..ekai banz....ua call ekak daala balanna oone banz..... so machan nangita kohomada banz???

[x-pert]

dnt knw much abt history... danne nati deewal godak tibuna machan, thanks..!

JR ge wiyavasthaawa tamai wiyavasthaawa... oka kiyawana ape leaderslata oka wenas karanna hitenne nati wennamane buwa eka liyala tiyenne!

And machang J R eeka thamai 2/3 thiyenna ooni ooka wenas karanna kiyana clause eka dammeth.

Mokada miniha danagaththa, minihata passe kaatawath 2/3k ganna baha kiyala parliament eke votes ooka wenas karanna...

[pavanayya]

ow ban bala thanhaawa nati ekek eeka kiyewwath ekata washiii welaaa nathi balathanhaa walut enna buwa eka liyala tiyenne...

president mama hitanne nah macho war eken passe oka wenas karai kiyala...; politicians can not be trust ban.... anyway kohoma hari meh LTTE ballo tika ikmanin suddayak karala daanawanam echcharai... :yes: :)

ow ow machan.....LTTE eke unwa iwarayak karanna karanna oone ban...yesterday...ape iskole(ananda college) eke grd 10 malli kenek marila banz bomb eken....n ashoka college eke grd 11 ekek marila banz...O/L's karapu gaman banz...paw oi.......net eke thiyenne no child deaths kiyala.....maarai banz.........:frown: :frown: :frown: :frown: :frown: :frown:

[x-pert]

macho.......!!
i dunt wanna talk about thiz subjects macho....!!

If you really don't like it machang, then don't :)

We know both parties had mistakes and both parties are suffering now. But for me, LTTE and Tamil are 2 different sets of people. We love tamils, but not the LTTE guerrillas.

[pavanayya]

And machang J R eeka thamai 2/3 thiyenna ooni ooka wenas karanna kiyana clause eka dammeth.

Mokada miniha danagaththa, minihata passe kaatawath 2/3k ganna baha kiyala parliament eke votes ooka wenas karanna...
mehe mai banz...oka kawada hari wei machan...prashne thiyenne kawadada kiyalai....machan mole thiyena ekek awoth monawa hari karai banz...i mean da whole parliment machan.......kohoma haro mee war eka thamai apee rata kanne banz..........

[Sujakshan]

If you really don't like it machang, then don't :)

We know both parties had mistakes and both parties are suffering now. But for me, LTTE and Tamil are 2 different sets of people. We love tamils, but not the LTTE guerrillas.

i kno macho.........!!

[anurudda]

And machang J R eeka thamai 2/3 thiyenna ooni ooka wenas karanna kiyana clause eka dammeth.

Mokada miniha danagaththa, minihata passe kaatawath 2/3k ganna baha kiyala parliament eke votes ooka wenas karanna...

apooo ow ban... uunam yakek!:yes: ; mama ahala tiyenawa mans oka thaniyema liyapu ekak kiyala... :confused:

[Sujakshan]

u ppls dont hate tamils......!!

[pavanayya]

If you really don't like it machang, then don't :)

We know both parties had mistakes and both parties are suffering now. But for me, LTTE and Tamil are 2 different sets of people. We love tamils, but not the LTTE guerrillas.
100% true bro....i hav tamil frnds too machan...godak innawa..they also hateda LTTE machan......v love tamil ppl coz they r jst humans like us ban...but da LTTE....I dont have words 2 insult LTTE ban....un echcharama ballo......

[pavanayya]

u ppls dont hate tamils......!!
pissuda banz......v never hate tamil ppl banz........only da bloody LTTE machan....

[anurudda]

ow ow machan.....LTTE eke unwa iwarayak karanna karanna oone ban...yesterday...ape iskole(ananda college) eke grd 10 malli kenek marila banz bomb eken....n ashoka college eke grd 11 ekek marila banz...O/L's karapu gaman banz...paw oi.......net eke thiyenne no child deaths kiyala.....maarai banz.........:frown: :frown: :frown: :frown: :frown: :frown:


ow ban.. paw wadee... mama iiiye news wala pennanawa eka dekka; :(. ah net eke ehema tiyenawada? unta pissu! :angry: :angry: :angry: update karanna amathaka welaada danne nah; mokadda site eka?

[pavanayya]

scooby dooby doo..................

[Thenura]

DEN mokada wela thiyenne ?

[Sujakshan]

pissuda banz......v never hate tamil ppl banz........only da bloody LTTE machan....

i kno macho...........!!

[pavanayya]

ow ban.. paw wadee... mama iiiye news wala pennanawa eka dekka; :(. ah net eke ehema tiyenawada? unta pissu! :angry: :angry: :angry: update karanna amathaka welaada danne nah; mokadda site eka?
defence.lk da koheda machan..dan hadalada danne nehe...adooo ape ammata thamai news enne mulin ma(army JOH nisa)....ethanin thamai out karannee...but dude..amma danneth gedara awilla news balanokota banz..........ohoma seen weddi hari yai da banz..........

[eranda444]

pissuda banz......v never hate tamil ppl banz........only da bloody LTTE machan....
:yes: :yes:

[anarkalee]

may be

[pavanayya]

i kno macho...........!!
ekane kiyanne........bala pan api fit eke inne....neda banz....:) :) :) :)

adooo dan hard eka galawanne kohomada???danna kawruth neddoooooooo?????:( :( :( :( :( :( :(

[pavanayya]

:yes: :yes:
ela ela hehehehe...scooby dooby doo................:) :) :) :) :) :)

[pavanayya]

may be
may be ai???u got a story????:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[eranda444]

ela ela hehehehe...scooby dooby doo................:) :) :) :) :) :)
scrappyy dooooooo :lol:

[pavanayya]

scrappyy dooooooo :lol:
ahh ela ela..machan methana pissu kelinna epa x-pert ayyata mala pani oi....lolz....

[Sujakshan]

ekane kiyanne........bala pan api fit eke inne....neda banz....:) :) :) :)

adooo dan hard eka galawanne kohomada???danna kawruth neddoooooooo?????:( :( :( :( :( :( :(

:):)...!!

Cpu Eke Casing Eka galawapan....!!
eeta passe Hard Disc eken Mother Board ekata yana cable ekath galawapan......!!


then.....!!

Aluth HD eka Fix karapan......!!

(boruwata).....!!
lolz

[eranda444]

ahh ela ela..machan methana pissu kelinna epa x-pert ayyata mala pani oi....lolz....
okok uba pissu kelinava dakala awe :lol:

[pavanayya]

:):)...!!

Cpu Eke Casing Eka galawapan....!!
eeta passe Hard Disc eken Mother Board ekata yana cable ekath galawapan......!!


then.....!!

Aluth HD eka Fix karapan......!!

(boruwata).....!!
lolz
machan...hehehe....carent ehema wadinne nehe neda banz.......hehe

[pavanayya]

okok uba pissu kelinava dakala awe :lol:
ela ela machan....

[Sujakshan]

machan...hehehe....carent ehema wadinne nehe neda banz.......hehe

lolz....!!

[Thenura]

Tamil bwoi ? MAchan suja umba tmil da ?

[Sujakshan]

Tamil bwoi ? MAchan suja umba tmil da ?

haha........!!

ow macho..........!!

[Thenura]

haha........!!

ow macho..........!!
ela..api sinhala

[anurudda]

defence.lk da koheda machan..dan hadalada danne nehe...adooo ape ammata thamai news enne mulin ma(army JOH nisa)....ethanin thamai out karannee...but dude..amma danneth gedara awilla news balanokota banz..........ohoma seen weddi hari yai da banz..........


nah machan ithin passeda danne nahane bodies adura gatte...
aney manda ban ithin :(... ; defence ekenam dan daaala 2 skl children killed kiyala :(

[pavanayya]

ela...api ithin buddhist (Theravada)
machan when he says tamil u maust say sinhala machan.....suj hindu then u must say buddist got it banz??????hehehe,,,,lolz....no hard feelins k....

[Thenura]

oya webs ekak wath ganan ganna ba

[Sujakshan]

ela...api ithin buddhist (Theravada)

ela ela....!!

[pavanayya]

nah machan ithin passeda danne nahane bodies adura gatte...
aney manda ban ithin :(... ; defence ekenam dan daaala 2 skl children killed kiyala :(
ow machan dan daala athi banz.......after yesterdays news machan.......ow ow bodys passe aduragena wenna oone banz seen eka.....:) :) :) :)

[Thenura]

machan when he says tamil u maust say sinhala machan.....suj hindu then u must say buddist got it banz??????hehehe,,,,lolz....no hard feelins k....
:baffled:

[anurudda]

may be ai???u got a story????:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

:rofl: :rofl: anarkalee nangi taama nindenda koheda ban

[pavanayya]

:rofl: :rofl: anarkalee nangi taama nindenda koheda ban
ow banz matath hithenne doi athi....:) :) :) :)

[nkrockers]

This is a summarised version of an unbiased analysis, and I was never born when most of these things occur. So I'm not 100% sure about the correctness of post. Older people pls correct me if I'm wrong. [But you have to have a DOB before 1977]


Mr. S W R D Bandaranaike ruled the country.
Tamil people and Sinhala people lived together.
But there was some discrimination because Tamils were the minority.

Then came the era of Sirimavo.
Still there was some discrimination but Sirimavo tackled it strategically.
She bought vegies, grain, fruits from Jaffna farmers. So they became rich hence they lived peacefully.

Then there was this turning point. J R Jayawardena was elected in 1977.
He got 5 out of 6 votes in Sri Lanka. Sirimavo only got 6 or 7 seats. Hence Tamil party became the opposition. And the foreign community thought the Tamils will become the next ruling government in SL.

Western countries always wanted to have a war to sell their weaponry basically.

J R Jayawardena introduced Open Economy in SL. So SL could buy stuff from foreig countries for a much lesser price than buying from the inland farmers including the tamil farmers in Jaffna.

This was a massive hit to the Tamil Farmers because selling those items was the main occupation in Jaffna. And that's the main reason for they being so rich those days.

Tamil people may be intelligent. But if some one is telling they are brainy than Sinhala people that is not a proven fact. But in the history there were few top notch Tamil leaders heading several companies in the country. That's because Sinhala people never wanted to learn tamil and Tamil people have a tendency to give more marks for Tamil people in A/L s and other exams. So they pased all the exams etc.

Then there was this guy, called Prabakaran. who didn't want to go to school but wanted to watch cow boy movies resulted to SL by the open economy. When he was in his youth, he wanted to have a revolution because he didn't like the current situation of the Tamils. [Basically they couldn't sell their crop to Sri Lankan government]

Apparently Prabakaran is a patient having a mental disorder called Parabola disease.

So Praba and another friend of his called Mahaththaya wanted to have a revolution and they somehow able to get a pistol from somewhere.

One day Prabha killed an army soldier, actually a civil engineer in Jaffna. This is mainly with the intention to start a war.

SL Government sent a group of 13 soldiers to investigate the situation.

These 13 soldiers were killed by a Claymore mine.

Then there was this black mark called the Black july. (Kalu juliya)

Sinhala people in Colombo started killing Tamils in Colombo and as a result almost all the tamils went to Jaffna where there was a good situation for them with the leadership of Prabha. Then the tamils also started the war.

Killings went on and on.

Indian Peace Keeping Forces (IPKF) came to Sri Lanka to give support to the Sri Lankan forces to wipe off LTTE from the surface. But they did many bad things too. As an example raping women.

Again there was a situation where they had to have an election. And R Premadasa gave a promise saying that he will send the IPKF back to India. For 2 reasons. IPKF was doing bad stuff for SL women as well. And SL people thought someday India will capture the control of SL. (Including Rajiv Gandhi)

So people wanted to have Premadasa as the president.

After being the president, Premadasa discussed with LTTE for a solution. mainly to send the IPKF back. LTTE and Premadasa had 2 different agendas in this scenario. So ultimately Premadasa gave weapons to LTTE to kick IPKF out meanwhile discussing with India about the negotiation. After some time Rajiv Gandhi ordered IPKF to fall back to India.

But as a personal revenge Prabha killed Rajiv Gandhi. This was the biggest mistake prabha has done in his history. For the first time he has given a chance to his heart to act instead of his mind.

So now the LTTE have more weapons and many tamils supported Prabha. So here we are... with a war having a history of 25 years.

In Jaffna, casts play a huge role. Prabha is from the lowest cast called commonly as "sakkili" the people who wash toilets. But because of the JRs open economy, Tamils have very few options. So they had to support a leadership. They chose Prabha.

Western countries played a huge role in starting this war. Mainly the British. They are the people who introduced this divide. They wanted to have 50 : 50 in the Parliment (Sinhala : Tamil) where there was only a minority of Tamils in Sri Lanka.

So mainly, British people, Sinhala people, Tamil people, JR's open economy are the main reasons for this war.



[This is an answer for DJ Parker ;)]
find them kill tem barry tem

[nkrockers]

yaaaaaaaaa

[nkrockers]

hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[nkrockers]

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[x-pert]

find them kill tem barry tem

Who...??

[sri_lion]

yaaaaaaaaa

hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

DUDE!! what are you doing?

[x-pert]

DUDE!! what are you doing?

:rofl: Increasing the post count I guess...

[sriflipflop]

This is a summarised version of an unbiased analysis, and I was never born when most of these things occur. So I'm not 100% sure about the correctness of post. Older people pls correct me if I'm wrong. [But you have to have a DOB before 1977]


Mr. S W R D Bandaranaike ruled the country.
Tamil people and Sinhala people lived together.
But there was some discrimination because Tamils were the minority.

Then came the era of Sirimavo.
Still there was some discrimination but Sirimavo tackled it strategically.
She bought vegies, grain, fruits from Jaffna farmers. So they became rich hence they lived peacefully.

Then there was this turning point. J R Jayawardena was elected in 1977.
He got 5 out of 6 votes in Sri Lanka. Sirimavo only got 6 or 7 seats. Hence Tamil party became the opposition. And the foreign community thought the Tamils will become the next ruling government in SL.

Western countries always wanted to have a war to sell their weaponry basically.

J R Jayawardena introduced Open Economy in SL. So SL could buy stuff from foreig countries for a much lesser price than buying from the inland farmers including the tamil farmers in Jaffna.

This was a massive hit to the Tamil Farmers because selling those items was the main occupation in Jaffna. And that's the main reason for they being so rich those days.

Tamil people may be intelligent. But if some one is telling they are brainy than Sinhala people that is not a proven fact. But in the history there were few top notch Tamil leaders heading several companies in the country. That's because Sinhala people never wanted to learn tamil and Tamil people have a tendency to give more marks for Tamil people in A/L s and other exams. So they pased all the exams etc.

Then there was this guy, called Prabakaran. who didn't want to go to school but wanted to watch cow boy movies resulted to SL by the open economy. When he was in his youth, he wanted to have a revolution because he didn't like the current situation of the Tamils. [Basically they couldn't sell their crop to Sri Lankan government]

Apparently Prabakaran is a patient having a mental disorder called Parabola disease.

So Praba and another friend of his called Mahaththaya wanted to have a revolution and they somehow able to get a pistol from somewhere.

One day Prabha killed an army soldier, actually a civil engineer in Jaffna. This is mainly with the intention to start a war.

SL Government sent a group of 13 soldiers to investigate the situation.

These 13 soldiers were killed by a Claymore mine.

Then there was this black mark called the Black july. (Kalu juliya)

Sinhala people in Colombo started killing Tamils in Colombo and as a result almost all the tamils went to Jaffna where there was a good situation for them with the leadership of Prabha. Then the tamils also started the war.

Killings went on and on.

Indian Peace Keeping Forces (IPKF) came to Sri Lanka to give support to the Sri Lankan forces to wipe off LTTE from the surface. But they did many bad things too. As an example raping women.

Again there was a situation where they had to have an election. And R Premadasa gave a promise saying that he will send the IPKF back to India. For 2 reasons. IPKF was doing bad stuff for SL women as well. And SL people thought someday India will capture the control of SL. (Including Rajiv Gandhi)

So people wanted to have Premadasa as the president.

After being the president, Premadasa discussed with LTTE for a solution. mainly to send the IPKF back. LTTE and Premadasa had 2 different agendas in this scenario. So ultimately Premadasa gave weapons to LTTE to kick IPKF out meanwhile discussing with India about the negotiation. After some time Rajiv Gandhi ordered IPKF to fall back to India.

But as a personal revenge Prabha killed Rajiv Gandhi. This was the biggest mistake prabha has done in his history. For the first time he has given a chance to his heart to act instead of his mind.

So now the LTTE have more weapons and many tamils supported Prabha. So here we are... with a war having a history of 25 years.

In Jaffna, casts play a huge role. Prabha is from the lowest cast called commonly as "sakkili" the people who wash toilets. But because of the JRs open economy, Tamils have very few options. So they had to support a leadership. They chose Prabha.

Western countries played a huge role in starting this war. Mainly the British. They are the people who introduced this divide. They wanted to have 50 : 50 in the Parliment (Sinhala : Tamil) where there was only a minority of Tamils in Sri Lanka.

So mainly, British people, Sinhala people, Tamil people, JR's open economy are the main reasons for this war.



[This is an answer for DJ Parker ;)]


What about start doing all office work in sinhala and the people work there didnt have tamil knowledge when tamil person want to get some thing done the have to go many hard thing.
Many tamil know english tamil and sinhala but how many sinhala people know tamil still there are this problem.
I dont think they want seperate land its only in prabas mind.
If you look today if your name is tamil you will have lot of hard thing i dont think its good to loook at like them.
If we gona solve this at least we have to get simple knowledge about tamil language with out doing i think this is not going to solve.

[DJ.Parker]

What about start doing all office work in sinhala and the people work there didnt have tamil knowledge when tamil person want to get some thing done the have to go many hard thing.
Many tamil know english tamil and sinhala but how many sinhala people know tamil still there are this problem.
I dont think they want seperate land its only in prabas mind.
If you look today if your name is tamil you will have lot of hard thing i dont think its good to loook at like them.
If we gona solve this at least we have to get simple knowledge about tamil language with out doing i think this is not going to solve.

good point

[ereshthush]

hmmmmmm

[x-pert]

hmmmmmm

Moko bung,...? Hithanawada?

[nabil]

haha.. sakkili v use that in tamil to insult ppl. lol.
Premadasa gave weapons to prabha??? :shocked:
J.R.'s good intensions in developing the country by opening the market to the international market was also a cause?? wow didnt know all these.

[nabil]

What about start doing all office work in sinhala and the people work there didnt have tamil knowledge when tamil person want to get some thing done the have to go many hard thing.
Many tamil know english tamil and sinhala but how many sinhala people know tamil still there are this problem.
I dont think they want seperate land its only in prabas mind.
If you look today if your name is tamil you will have lot of hard thing i dont think its good to loook at like them.
If we gona solve this at least we have to get simple knowledge about tamil language with out doing i think this is not going to solve.
strange how india has over 20 languages n has no trouble with racism.

[sri_lion]

strange how india has over 20 languages n has no trouble with racism.

Whoa!! dude India doesn't have Racism issues? Says who? they've got big time racial issues!!! I really don't care about their internal issues though... but they do have issues!

As a matter of fact almost every other country have racial issues, what is different from Sri Lanka though.. either those are small issues or they've moved on from those issues and working as a whole for the country to develop their country!!

Even Malaysia has, Australia has or used to have (x-pert can give some info on this) very hard to find a country whom never had these issues... but sadly except for us and Tamils in Sri Lanka everyone else have pretty much moved on!!!

[sindukade1]

tnx for dis machan...

[rapa]

elakiri xpert good point from you
also there is a good article in Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan_Civil_War

and lot of reference articles too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan_Civil_War#Notes

[rapa]

This is what the view of our Defence Secretary


http://www.defence.lk/videos/20070823_SecDef%20Interview.wmv

http://defence.lk/videos/20071030_SecSpeeh.wmv

[nabil]

Whoa!! dude India doesn't have Racism issues? Says who? they've got big time racial issues!!! I really don't care about their internal issues though... but they do have issues!

As a matter of fact almost every other country have racial issues, what is different from Sri Lanka though.. either those are small issues or they've moved on from those issues and working as a whole for the country to develop their country!!

Even Malaysia has, Australia has or used to have (x-pert can give some info on this) very hard to find a country whom never had these issues... but sadly except for us and Tamils in Sri Lanka everyone else have pretty much moved on!!!
what i meant was no SERIOUS trouble with racial issues that could go on to cause civil wars. duh.. every other day theres riots in the streets of india on various racial issues but never did war break out.

[shanX]

what i meant was no SERIOUS trouble with racial issues that could go on to cause civil wars. duh.. every other day theres riots in the streets of india on various racial issues but never did war break out.
There are wars on racial related issues in India AFAIK :D

[x-pert]

Any more comments :)

[Wal Bada]

Mr. S W R D Bandaranaike ruled the country.
Tamil people and Sinhala people lived together.
But there was some discrimination because Tamils were the minority.Wrong. Tamils had superior education, income, higher ratio of university entrances and oppotunities in government service. This was the case evn up to 1980s.

Here is ethnic ratios in 1981.
Sinhalese - 74.00 %
Sri Lankan Tamils - 12.60 %
Indian Tamils - 5.56 %
Muslims - 7.0 %
Others - 0.84 %
http://www.spur.asn.au/facts.1.jpg

Now this shows the university entrants by 1981, according to ethnicity.
http://www.spur.asn.au/facts.2.jpg

[Wal Bada]

This one shows % of professionals in state sector. The tamil over representation is unmistakable.

http://www.spur.asn.au/facts.3.jpg

[Wal Bada]

Now this shows number of maternity hospitals per 100,000 of population in 1981. Jaffna clearly leads, and tamil pregnant women have more facilities than Sinhalese mothers.

http://www.spur.asn.au/facts.5.jpg

[Wal Bada]

Then patirnts:doctor ratio, which is the main determinant of adequacy of health needs. Once more Jaffna and Batticoloa has more doctors compared to districts like Kalutara

http://www.spur.asn.au/facts.6.jpg

[BRAINY]

machang wal bada,, wht r de sources..???????????????

[Wal Bada]

Mekatath mawa ban karayida danne naha. Mekath SL owned site ekak.

http://www.spur.asn.au/facts.htm

[easha_07]

thanks that was really interesting..
urgh gay war. they should just finish it SOMEHOW so the rest of us can get on with our life.

lol but can you imagine when the war is over, what are we gonna talk about?! :P
xx

[Wal Bada]

lol but can you imagine when the war is over, what are we gonna talk about?! :PxxSirasa Super Star or about how Nimal Siripala arn without his sarong at the ministry.

[malkavi]

addoo maMA MEKA ADANE DAKE..........eLA MACHAN.........

Habai Bandaranayaka thamai scn eka kachal kara gatte..........Sirimavo awa kiyalath loku wenasak wune ne ban..eyage hal polu....miris polu nisa minissunta eyawa epa wuna.........
J.R. eken prayojane gatta.........Open economy eken thamai me ratata hena gahuwe.........

Prabakaran kiyanne machan Tamil kattiyge inna aduma kuleka ekek. Tamil auage kula bede thiyenawa sahenna...Prabakarange kule ayagen wathurawath bonne nehe. Ae tharam pahath kulayak prabata thiyenne......prabhata thibbe heenamanayak......eka nethikarana thamai boru jathiwadayak issarahata da gatte......prabata tamil ayath ekkath thiyenne tharahak.......uge thiyenne irisiyawak.....ekai machan praba me thathweta path wune.aththatama utra thiyenne mentaly upset ekak......habai pissek nemei........

onna okai mage view eka ................

[x-pert]

Wrong. Tamils had superior education, income, higher ratio of university entrances and oppotunities in government service. This was the case evn up to 1980s.

Here is ethnic ratios in 1981.
Sinhalese - 74.00 %
Sri Lankan Tamils - 12.60 %
Indian Tamils - 5.56 %
Muslims - 7.0 %
Others - 0.84 %
http://www.spur.asn.au/facts.1.jpg

Now this shows the university entrants by 1981, according to ethnicity.
http://www.spur.asn.au/facts.2.jpg


:lol: ithin eeka thamai discrimination kiyuwe...

Rate minority ekata lokuma thanak suddo athi kalla giya. eeka ape unuth eh widihatama thibba. So Sinhala ayat thamai discrimination ekak une.

[x-pert]

addoo maMA MEKA ADANE DAKE..........eLA MACHAN.........

Habai Bandaranayaka thamai scn eka kachal kara gatte..........Sirimavo awa kiyalath loku wenasak wune ne ban..eyage hal polu....miris polu nisa minissunta eyawa epa wuna.........
J.R. eken prayojane gatta.........Open economy eken thamai me ratata hena gahuwe.........

Prabakaran kiyanne machan Tamil kattiyge inna aduma kuleka ekek. Tamil auage kula bede thiyenawa sahenna...Prabakarange kule ayagen wathurawath bonne nehe. Ae tharam pahath kulayak prabata thiyenne......prabhata thibbe heenamanayak......eka nethikarana thamai boru jathiwadayak issarahata da gatte......prabata tamil ayath ekkath thiyenne tharahak.......uge thiyenne irisiyawak.....ekai machan praba me thathweta path wune.aththatama utra thiyenne mentaly upset ekak......habai pissek nemei........

onna okai mage view eka ................

ElaKiri machang :D ookama thamai mamath kiyuwe...

Prabhakaran kiyanne "Sakkili" cast eke toilet hodana cast eke ekekne bung... oota thibune Jelousy ekak mulinma. eekata ara cow boy films balala athi wechcha tharuna aawegayath ekathu wela thamai minihage oluwa wikal wela thiyenne.... :D

[malkavi]

ElaKiri machang :D ookama thamai mamath kiyuwe...

Prabhakaran kiyanne "Sakkili" cast eke toilet hodana cast eke ekekne bung... oota thibune Jelousy ekak mulinma. eekata ara cow boy films balala athi wechcha tharuna aawegayath ekathu wela thamai minihage oluwa wikal wela thiyenne.... :D

:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:

[nukisl]

:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
alo macho

[sri_lion]

Wrong. Tamils had superior education, income, higher ratio of university entrances and oppotunities in government service. This was the case evn up to 1980s.

Yes! from about 1930's close to 5 decades Sinhalese were discriminated, and those services were free for Tamils compliments from British.. rewards for their dirty work against Sinhalese, and when Sinhalese leaders asked for the same treatment for the rest of the people what was their answer?

"Indian Govt. asked them to do so" :rolleyes:

And at that time Sinhalese consists of close to 80% of the total population, where did they all go by 1980's?:confused: :no:

Now western "human rights specialists" talk about killings in SL, who pays for all those lives we lost, time buried their crimes!!!

[shanX]

Sirasa Super Star or about how Nimal Siripala arn without his sarong at the ministry.
:lol: Nimal Siripala arn without his sarong at the ministry??? Wts tht? Intresting :D

[DJ.Parker]

:lol: ithin eeka thamai discrimination kiyuwe...

Rate minority ekata lokuma thanak suddo athi kalla giya. eeka ape unuth eh widihatama thibba. So Sinhala ayat thamai discrimination ekak une.

meka poddak pahadili madi:confused:

[Wal Bada]

:lol: Nimal Siripala ran without his sarong at the ministry??? Wts tht? Intresting :DOld story mate. He had this affair with his private secrataty and caught by his wife red handed. Rumors say that she pulled Sira's sarong and he ran in to his vehicle without it. There are few more stories realted to this too. All running back to era of 1996-7 time.

[shanX]

Old story mate. He had this affair with his private secrataty and caught by his wife red handed. Rumors say that she pulled Sira's sarong and he ran in to his vehicle without it. There are few more stories realted to this too. All running back to era of 1996-7 time.
:lol: Yeah, hav heard tht story, but not the complete story :D

[scrolllock]

Thanks for the post!!

[badtnc]

war eka lagadima iwara wei machan..... sinhala minissuth waradi karala thiyanwa.. eath war eka patan ganna tharam deyak na... harinam sinhala minissui war eka patan ganna ona....

[farshad]

passe read karannam

[xXxHaNzxXx]

hmmm cnt they hav the 50 50 thing nw???:oo:

[x-pert]

hmmm cnt they hav the 50 50 thing nw???:oo:

For what ?

This is Sri Lanka. No one is gonna divide the the power according to their nationality.

[x-pert]

war eka lagadima iwara wei machan..... sinhala minissuth waradi karala thiyanwa.. eath war eka patan ganna tharam deyak na... harinam sinhala minissui war eka patan ganna ona....

Hodatama baluwoth penei Sinhala minissu thamai patan gaththe kiyalath.

Okkoma waradi kala bawa aththa. Habai war ekak patan ganna tharam reason ekak mata nam penenne naha. Okkoma nikan power eka nisa maraagannawa.

Anyway sooner it will over the Better !

[tharindu143]

mama LTTE war gena danne ne....history eka gena thibuna tika beluwe...

Ela ela

[aye_sha90]

ooh

[x-pert]

ooh

ooh?

Anyway welcome back :D

[aye_sha90]

ooh?

Anyway welcome back :D


thx bro..:P
ooh coz iz a nice thread..i hv notin elz 2 add..;) he he

[just]

the war bagan as a discrimination to minority.but the terrorist used it to execute their plans.

one thing is for sure. no common sinhalese, tamil, or any other group has problems with each other. unless some stupid idiot uses racism to take revange for something personel.

but the unfortunate thing is the majority of sinhalese has not realised its their primary duty to address root level problems with minority.i dont think they ignoring it but they are really not aware.

but also the political side of it was and is always same. someone wants to use this to have the power. they dont want everyone to be thnking as sri lanakans. simple if that happens they will have one major force. so easy step devide and rule.

currently wats happening is a bit different. all governments ruled before had used all the excuses now they have to do somethin. so they've started taking at terrorists.

its good for now cos its the trend. patriotism is "the word" now. but now minorities feel more descriminated (not LTTE). their democratically elected leaders are neglected. no one to voice their rights. media is clearly sensored...etc etc.

so they trying to to clean the country by cleaning the wound but not looking at wat coused it.sometimes i'm afraid they letting the couse grow.we have never come across a win of war so we dont know wat happens after that. they reason for the war was whether its tamil, sinhalese or any others is in hearts.dangerouse thing is you cant see that. unless politicians or people in majority understand this achieving peace is a dream.

a Dream we all hope will come true in 6 months. but i'm sure next year this time also we will be just having another deadline for it to happen :confused:

[K@S]

HHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOO

[sri_lion]

the war bagan as a discrimination to minority.but the terrorist used it to execute their plans.

Correction!! minority began RIOTS... the WAR began as a part terrorists plans!!!

one thing is for sure. no common sinhalese, tamil, or any other group has problems with each other.

Yes! as long as this nation is NOT divided and everybody think as a SRI LANKAN and everybody get what they deserve!

currently wats happening is a bit different. all governments ruled before had used all the excuses now they have to do somethin. so they've started taking at terrorists.

So is it a bad thing? finally a government has realized what to do.. Sri Lanka is governed by a constitution and there's no rule in it for negotiation with terrorists, however there are rules in it to protect countries sovereignty from any threat!

Sri Lanka's majority which is over 70% Sinhalese are under the threat of terrorism and losing their motherland and government has to address the problem of the majority first! Tell me where this doesn't apply?

ts good for now cos its the trend. patriotism is "the word" now. but now minorities feel more descriminated (not LTTE). their democratically elected leaders are neglected. no one to voice their rights. media is clearly sensored...etc etc.

so they trying to to clean the country by cleaning the wound but not looking at wat coused it.sometimes i'm afraid they letting the couse grow.we have never come across a win of war so we dont know wat happens after that. they reason for the war was whether its tamil, sinhalese or any others is in hearts.dangerouse thing is you cant see that. unless politicians or people in majority understand this achieving peace is a dream.

Every government has ups and downs, tell me one government at least in SL, that went smoothly, tell me 1 govt. that never hiked prices and etc.... at least there's some progress now.. Patriotism should have been "the word" long time ago, I'm sad that its meaning still somewhat in the dark!

How does being patriotic help discriminate the minority? besides.. if minority were more patriotic than power hungry, most of these issues could have been solved much easily in the past and PRESENT!!

Tell me what unique issues that apply only to Tamils in SL that does not apply to the Tamil in rest of the world?

We Sinhalese consist of more than 70% of the country, we are the driving force of this countries economy, we are the major force that contributes... and we deserve our freedom, our rights, our country in return!!!

People question the democracy of Sri Lanka,

Likewise Sri Lanka's minority deserves their rights, we deserve ours too!! If tamils doesn't get what they deserve that's mainly due to the fact that the whole Tamil politics in SL is unbalanced or unstable, why? Because of terrorism!! so what do we take out first? TERRORISM of course!!!

Tamil majority is in North and NE, without addressing LTTE issue how to address its people's issues?

And take North & North East out of the equation for second, How about Colombo and up country Tamils under govt.? what discrimination do they get? Do we not have proper education Tamils in South? Govt. services are not open for them?

I've seen worse..... for an example here in Malaysia there's no secondary schools even for Tamils.. they have no option other than either attend to a Private School which will cost a fortune and only the rich can afford or continue learning in Malay! Is that the situation in SL too?

Go to Wellawatte, Collpetty area..... Tamil business are booming... when we go to those shops, some don't even talk Sinhalese (or pretend :rolleyes: ), if Tamils do not get what they deserve that's what Tamil politicians are for! So first blame them and then the govt. , because govt. is Sinhalese and they have their own agenda and duty for the majority of people!!

And you seems to have stepped on your own tail.. govt. is fighting terrorists, as long as terrorists are powerful they will continue to terrorize people.. only a weak would negotiate.... this we have seen in past how LTTE behave!! and remember LTTE still not banned in SL, doors are open anytime when they are ready to lay down arms!

[just]

so you saying its all minority's falt and they should be wiped out of sri lanka as a whole with the terrorists?

[Santa]

400

[just]

sorry din get you..Sri lion

So you saying the "Majority" (i noticed you used the word majority in your reply more than sri lankan) should wipe out the "minority" with the terrorist in north,shut their voices, kick their leaders, burn the media and press says anything against government, feed shit to people who sent the ministers to parliment..

and will get to the dreamland in 6 months?

[sri_lion]

so you saying its all minority's falt and they should be wiped out of sri lanka as a whole with the terrorists?

Again.. you stepped on your own tail! Show me where have I stated that?

Well if you look at history it was infact power greedy Tamil politicians fault that they wanted 50-50 power in a land where Tamils were not even 15%

And a part of minority Tamils happened to be terrorists and terrorists should be wiped out of Sri Lanka.. Even if they are Sinhalese that support terrorism!

Govt. giving priority to Sinhalese is Invertible, its their govt. infact isn't that everybody is doing? Muslim politicians talk about Muslim people that's they are there for, so does Tamils and so does Sinhalese!

[just]

ok man you in kuala lampur and you win...and i seems stepping into my tail toomany times (thanks for counting buddy)

anyways let those ppl in border villages tamil sinhalease muslim n all others (not majority or minotiry but sri lankans) whome sent ministers and presidents etc with some hope (or forcefully made to do so) go to hell...

so tell me when we gona get the dreamland according to you (whose in malaysia : | )

[sri_lion]

So you saying the "Majority" (i noticed you used the word majority in your reply more than sri lankan)

Whenever I said "Majority" I mean Sinhalese, If i had the need to mention everybody I would've used Sri Lankans.. I understand the difference!!

should wipe out the "minority" with the terrorist in north

NO! I never said that!

shut their voices, kick their leaders

Who does this? LTTE or Govt. you decide! If LTTE believe in their people and want to serve them... why kill politicians who already does that in South? Besides if they start killing now like this what guarantee that other Tamil politicans has of their safety if LTTE really establish EELAM?

, burn the media and press says anything against government, feed shit to people who sent the ministers to parliment..

Maybe! this is Media Freedom and internal politics of SL Govt. we are talking about the LTTE's WAR here!

and will get to the dreamland in 6 months?

Wrong! I read the news the Army chief said 1 year!

[sri_lion]

ok man you in kuala lampur and you win...and i seems stepping into my tail toomany times (thanks for counting buddy)

That's a poor statement dude! Just because I'm living in Malaysia or x-pert lives in Aussie how does that change of what we are? or what we say about the truth?

I've been educated in Sri Lanka, Both my parents are Sinhalese Buddhists... under certain circumstances I might be in Malaysia yet I care about my country as any true SRI LANKAN would do!!

anyways let those ppl in border villages tamil sinhalease muslim n all others (not majority or minotiry but sri lankans) whome sent ministers and presidents etc with some hope (or forcefully made to do so) go to hell...

Yes! Not only people on the border villages voted for government the whole country did! That's why there's a war for the sake of the sovereignty of the whole country for every 19 million of them! and obviously there are consequences!

so tell me when we gona get the dreamland according to you (whose in malaysia : | )

Don't know! ask the defense ministry!!

By the way... my mother used to work for Irrigation Department for more than 15 years and I've been to border villages for many projects with her when I was a kid..

I've seen it! And the truth is its no secret that Tamils in the WAR zone suffer a lot.. but nobody talk about Sinhalese or Muslims who suffer in those areas!

And NOW i'm in Kuala Lumpur.. yes! true! again... your point is?

[just]

my point was all the patriots seems out of the country...:rolleyes: but i understand "certain circumstances". thing is if i can go out and not only me 19 mil sri lankans can they will go. cos we all like to live..

anyways i guess we both see each others points. but actually you just quated me and gave your reply in parts.so i kenda not sure what your points is.

if you mean we should get rid of terrorist i guess theres no two opinion in that.

but if you mean thats gona b the answer we differ on that point...cos as i told terrorism was born for a reason and as long as that reasons there we should expect the fruits of it any time any where and in anyway...i mean sri lankans living in sri lanka (and again i mean not sinhalese tamil muslim...majority minority...but sri lankans)

ok ill wait until defence ministry bring me the good news..good luck to you too man

[elastefan]

I'd Still Say It's not the complete story

[sri_lion]

my point was all the patriots seems out of the country...:rolleyes: but i understand "certain circumstances". thing is if i can go out and not only me 19 mil sri lankans can they will go. cos we all like to live..

Oh! come on! You sound more ridiculous now! seriously! I live here, I work here I send money back home so that my family who's in Sri Lanka who are Sri Lankans will have a better life! NOT only me, most of them including our people in Middle-East!

NOW how does that question or relate to my patriotism? care to explain? Do you mean after we go out of the country whatever we do or say cannot be taken into account or we are NOT Sri Lankans anymore?

I fear for my family's safety everyday as much as anyone in SL would!

anyways i guess we both see each others points. but actually you just quated me and gave your reply in parts.so i kenda not sure what your points is.

I quoted your answer because of three things!

1. I wanted to answer precisely to your point

2. We both are not the only one who read this thread, they must also know for what I'm answering!

3. That's my way of answering

and if I didn't quote your post.. then what you'll say? then you'd say I gave answer in general not up to the point! :rolleyes:



if you mean we should get rid of terrorist i guess theres no two opinion in that.

but if you mean thats gona b the answer we differ on that point...cos as i told terrorism was born for a reason and as long as that reasons there we should expect the fruits of it any time any where and in anyway...

Why terrorism started? this you yourself answered in the previous post... "its a plan of terrorists", why now asking me? that's the truth you already mentioned it!

That's be cause the hidden agendas of LTTE, they knew Tamils worldwide doesn't have their own country and exploited a crack in SL system... if LTTE fight for Tamil discrimination then why fight for a separate land call "EELAM"? They can fight for Tamil rights only but not for a land right? They need Tamil's rights and they also need a land? Dont you see??? Its the land they need all along!!! No matter what.. even if it requires sending 12 year old to the battle front of their own kind!!!

So there you go! we fight the underlying reason! THE TERRORISM!

Fruits of WAR? isn't that we have for 25 years! effects of Physical and mental both for 2 and a half decades,

i mean sri lankans living in sri lanka (and again i mean not sinhalese tamil muslim...majority minority...but sri lankans)

And again... talk some sense dude.... so you mean to say Sinhala + Muslim + Tamil + Minority + Majority are all Sri Lankans but NOT Sri Lankans live abroad? They are NOT Sri Lankans because they live outside? How is that?

[uhox]

the TIGER MOVEMENT and all other tamil terrorist organizations are bred among the tamil EXTREMIST (racist) politics... :dull:

[nabil]

i feel so enlightened. keep da comments coming. i wanna read them all. :D

[sri_lion]

i feel so enlightened. keep da comments coming. i wanna read them all. :D

Glad you are!

[just]

yeah i sound rediculous...still last time i checked sri lanka is a democratic republic...so i guess still i can put my point of view.

no dude you are a very proud sri lankan..if not will u care about coming here and taking your time to answer all this questions.

i live in sri lanka and i see you posting more than me.hmmmm maybe cos i have to run behind the rising cost of living to save my ass for tomorrow..it gives me less time to be patriotic..

but i'll be frank if i can get outA this country and give my family a good life, from a place where i can goto work knowing i wont get to a claimore,bomb on the bus or train, unidentified gunmen kidnapping and asking for ransom, or getting shot mistakenly...knowing the government wont be waiting to grab every cent i make..knowing hospitals wont be striking at anytime..knowing ill be given my basic human rights...

it'll make me more patriotic..

anyways i'm glad to someones enlightened with this conversation i dont care whose reply or post did it. i belive in making awareness and that all.

anyways will u care to put whats your opinion on how this problem can be brought to an end...:rolleyes:

[Wal Bada]

my point was all the patriots seems out of the country... but i understand "certain circumstances". thing is if i can go out and not only me 19 mil sri lankans can they will go. cos we all like to liveWrong. Here I am. In Sri Lanka.

[Wal Bada]

i told terrorism was born for a reasonWhich is, tamil politicians (esp. of Wellar caste) wanting to rule SL, and asking for more than what they deserve. They were against district qouta system for university entrance because low caste tamils from Nuwara Eliya were getting similar oppotunities as them!

[Sujakshan]

http://eelam.com/tamil_eelam.html

[Wal Bada]

i live in sri lanka and i see you posting more than me.hmmmm maybe cos i have to run behind the rising cost of living to save my ass for tomorrow..it gives me less time to be patriotic..Once again wrong. If huger can kick on your ass and can you make un-patriotic you are in a big way a hypocrite, to put it mildly. Patritism peas during the time of difficulties.

[Sujakshan]

macho..!!
mama methana Terrorism or Racism gaena kathakaranna nemei me Post eka dhaemme......!!

[Sujakshan]

That's the known... shanX is also Tamil neda machang...?

and... hmmm.... Teron kiyala ekek innawa.... And balamuko... mole thiyena koti patiyek wath awilla mokak hari kiyayida kiyala...

http://eelam.com/tamil_eelam.html
menna macho........!!

[just]

Once again wrong. If huger can kick on your ass and can you make un-patriotic you are in a big way a hypocrite, to put it mildly. Patritism peas during the time of difficulties.

hmm let me see then..

reasons for my patriotism to go up...

1. we are killing and they are killing (i can see the meter springing)..
2. cost of essential goods, baby food, medicine, oil... skyrocketing
3. media...well burn them right..(or else there's always good old uncle mervin)
4. no of parliment ministeres still counting (also their size, some seems almost they dont have a neck)
5. personnel expenses of them the numbers i dont even know
6. president is like not from this country
7. minorities are more pissed cos people cant here them talking even (political voices being shut)
8. taxes (hmmm can i goto to washroom in peace now
...and the list goes

buddy patriotism is saving the country last time i checked.where do u think the country would end up going like this...getting rid of terrorism is a good thing for all as sri lankans.but if we say patriots and watch watever circus they showing in the name of war...thats i dont know wat but not patriotism for sure.

im glad people atleast quate pieces of post and unswer them upto the point..

but its good if they can give a whole answer to the problem as well, for all to get an idea of their view..

[sri_lion]

hmm let me see then..

reasons for my patriotism to go up...

1. we are killing and they are killing (i can see the meter springing)..
2. cost of essential goods, baby food, medicine, oil... skyrocketing
3. media...well burn them right..(or else there's always good old uncle mervin)
4. no of parliment ministeres still counting (also their size, some seems almost they dont have a neck)
5. personnel expenses of them the numbers i dont even know

only this government?

6. president is like not from this country

I dont understand what you mean here!!

7. minorities are more pissed cos people cant here them talking even (political voices being shut)

1. Majority of the minority Tamils are on the front lines of the WAR, their voices shut down by LTTE

2. Colombo Tamil politicians will be dead if they voice... again you know who!!

3. This only apply to Tamils not all minority

I'm not ruling out Tamils does not have any problems in Sri Lanka, they do!

But why? largely due to the fact that the Terrorist themselves consist of Tamils..

When government arrest some Tamil, they shout that Tamils rights were violated! Without questioning suspects how do we know whether he / she involved in it or not? Its not written on the forehead that he/she a terrorist!! Besides its Tamils who are involved in LTTE so whom do we arrest? We are not arresting Tamils because we wanna genocide all of them.. we arrest for others protection including Sinhalese and Muslims (Sri Lankans)

Tamils do face difficulties, so does Arab Muslims in western countries not because they are truly guilty but its just some terrorists happens to be Muslim Extremists!

Although I admit one thing... Sri Lankans specially Sinhalese attitude towards Tamils must be changed.. for good! This though cannot be achieved only by Sinhalese alone, Tamils will have to reject EELAM and Terrorism all together! ITS THE ONLY WAY!!

8. taxes (hmmm can i goto to washroom in peace now
...and the list goes

again.... only this government?

buddy patriotism is saving the country last time i checked.where do u think the country would end up going like this...getting rid of terrorism is a good thing for all as sri lankans.but if we say patriots and watch watever circus they showing in the name of war...thats i dont know wat but not patriotism for sure.

So according to your theory, you will only be patriotic if all off above conditions are met? for one thing then I understand your concern and you were never a patriot because we always had these problems, the other thing is you will never be!!

im glad people atleast quate pieces of post and unswer them upto the point..

I did quote your post, I didn't miss a single letter in it though so please don't freak out next time!

but its good if they can give a whole answer to the problem as well, for all to get an idea of their view..

Wake up! this is our answer and what we and the majority of Sri Lanka believes the only answer to the problem.... read the topic.... a WAR for Terrorist and bring them down on their knees and take it from there!!!

Its not because we love violence or anything, its because we have tried every other thing already and realized BEAST IS AFTER ALL A BEAST IT ONLY KNOWS HOW TO BITE!!

So you are the one that oppose to all this.... so we'd like to hear your plan! as in how do you maintain the 8 things you mentioned and still wage WAR on terrorists to save our country?

[just]

Although I admit one thing... Sri Lankans specially Sinhalese attitude towards Tamils must be changed.. for good!
i just thought of quating cos this is the first time you admitted that. i hope you dont feel down about it.becouse thats a good thing...if ppl realise their mistakes and be careful that not to let them happen again world will improve even in small steps.

also i dont need to justify anything i put here. its the fact if u goto road that i know.

i did put my view in the 1st post i did for this thread clear and simple.


if you need it again in points:

- terrorist should be answrerd in their way clear agreed:yes:

- at same time interest should be put to see wat the cause of the problem..:no:
i dont see thats being done cos recently minorities feel unsafe (muslims and tamils specially) abductions, killing, ransom , political leaders assasinated, specially government seems playing a role (taking off Maheshwarans,hakeems etc security)
- also the other common factors effecting all sri lankan :no:
you asking these things never happened? ok so i assume you saying thats normal?
do u know the number of cabinet n non cabinet ministers here?
do you no the their expences are from majority of poor people?
and still do you know they r getting the pay and warming their asses?
do you know how many of them openly being thugs here?
do you know what their sons doing?
do you know what happened to all tsunami reliefe money that came here?
its like government is full with thugs not decent ministers.

can you name one minister in our cabinet who we can say honest from heart?

dream on buddy for the new sri lanka...while all the ministers get fat n poor public die in hunger.

long live the patriots:)

[sri_lion]

i just thought of quating cos this is the first time you admitted that. i hope you dont feel down about it.becouse thats a good thing...if ppl realise their mistakes and be careful that not to let them happen again world will improve even in small steps.

also i dont need to justify anything i put here. its the fact if u goto road that i know.

i did put my view in the 1st post i did for this thread clear and simple.


if you need it again in points:

- terrorist should be answrerd in their way clear agreed:yes:

- at same time interest should be put to see wat the cause of the problem..:no:
i dont see thats being done cos recently minorities feel unsafe (muslims and tamils specially) abductions, killing, ransom , political leaders assasinated, specially government seems playing a role (taking off Maheshwarans,hakeems etc security)
- also the other common factors effecting all sri lankan :no:
you asking these things never happened? ok so i assume you saying thats normal?
do u know the number of cabinet n non cabinet ministers here?
do you no the their expences are from majority of poor people?
and still do you know they r getting the pay and warming their asses?
do you know how many of them openly being thugs here?
do you know what their sons doing?
do you know what happened to all tsunami reliefe money that came here?
its like government is full with thugs not decent ministers.

can you name one minister in our cabinet who we can say honest from heart?

dream on buddy for the new sri lanka...while all the ministers get fat n poor public die in hunger.

long live the patriots:)


YES! I admit that Sinhalese attitude towards Tamils are not very good.. but there's a reason for that and its not a mistake! Ancient times Tamils and Sinhalese lived peacefully.. until under British thier sarcasm grew in huge proportions up to the point that they thought they could rule this nation after British gone or with them!!

Trust was broken! So did the attitude of Sinhalese towards Tamils! It must change but it must be mutual!!!

Let the law and order decide who's guilty and who's not because neither you nor me know whether government really killing politicians or not, if you have proof you can make a case against the govt. please be my guest.. if you don't, then don't simply BLIND BASH!! beside.... if UNP really knows govt. did those things then why dont they make a case! Maybe they killed their own party member and put the blame on govt. who knows.. that's a possibility too!!

So lets not talk or let our imagination run wild about what we do not know and stick to the topic of WAR between SRI LANKANS vs. Terrorism!

So you are saying these dirty politics never happened in Sri Lanka?

When UNP ruled...

- They never had thugs?
- Inflation never was an issue?
- All of their sons were calm and quiet?
- All of their ministers were decent and honest?
- No corruption what so ever?
- Ministers were kept their body in shape??:lol: :lol:

C'mon bro! bring some proper argument!! what is this? isn't this what was happening all the time? and YES!! IT IS NORMAL in Sri Lanka.. is it NOT?

I'm not any political party's slave or fan or a supporter.. But you talk like current govt. invented all these and you've never even seen them before!!

I personally think you have a personal grudge against Mahinda Rajapakse's govt. if so then tell your problem straight.. we'll discuss about that.. your single opinion does not represent every one elses... besides a govt. is decided by the majority of the people..... whom they feel the best for the job! If everybody thinks the way you think then , oh! my god! then there's no one left whom eligible to rule this country! Is there anyone? or any Party?

According to you.. you don't have enough money or time to be a Patriot!! then what about those boys who are dying for the county's honor at the forefronts of the WAR? do they have enough money and time that they willing to die for it?

[just]

ok i'll keep my opinion a side...and try to understand what you trying to say...

wipe off the terrorists and problem finished..OR until each and every tamil (or sihalese) is wiped off this island this wont finish..(i just hope you want say not every tamil is terrorist again..if you do pls tell me how you gonna recognize)

also maybe then the muslims then burgergs etc...you actually didnt answer this point

"at same time interest should be put to see wat the cause of the problem..
i dont see thats being done cos recently minorities feel unsafe (muslims and tamils specially) abductions, killing, ransom , political leaders assasinated, specially government seems playing a role (taking off Maheshwarans,hakeems etc security)"

so your answer is poilitics (UNP,PA,JVP...etc) it was like that is like that and will be like that (or maybe should be like that for you :rofl:)...? is that what you telling.

as for the majority support for the government, then i dont think government has to buy MP's, threaten Them, keep ppl who went into media and kikced jusrnalist with drug leaders and murderers publicly..just to get a budget passed.

i have no personnel grudge with mahinda uncle, he's cool. and which president gave us a budget airline tell me? maybe you can take it when u fly next time.the money will benefit the country..cos "me ahasa ape" :lol::lol::lol::lol:

but again it'll be safe in kuala lampur itself..:dull:

[sri_lion]

Half of what you asked I've already commented go back and read previous posts!


ok i'll keep my opinion a side...and try to understand what you trying to say...

wipe off the terrorists and problem finished..OR until each and every tamil (or sihalese) is wiped off this island this wont finish..(i just hope you want say not every tamil is terrorist again..if you do pls tell me how you gonna recognize)

also maybe then the muslims then burgergs etc...you actually didnt answer this point


then again I'd like to reiterate this!

1. WAR is not the ultimate solution, (everybody knows it:rolleyes: )
2. WAR is A PART of it
3. We wage WAR to make Terrorists weak and bring them to the table!
4. We have already try talking without fighting, but talking or not still people and politicians in south get murdered by LTTE.

I did not say all Tamils are Terrorists, I said LTTE consists of TAMILS.. is it not true?

Muslims and other minority does not opt for Terrorism, so they do not have issues that Tamils have!

If you are saying they have major issues then be specific, tell us what specific issues these minorities have, that Sinhalese doesn't have? We would like to know!

FOR YOUR INFORMATION....AND AS A FACT..... NOWHERE IN THE WORLD A MINORITY IS FULLY SATISFIED BY ITS GOVERNMENT'S ACTIONS!!!

TELL ME IF THERE'S ANY COUNTRY THAT MINORITY NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH MAJORITY SELECTED GOVT.

"at same time interest should be put to see wat the cause of the problem..
i dont see thats being done cos recently minorities feel unsafe (muslims and tamils specially) abductions, killing, ransom , political leaders assasinated, specially government seems playing a role (taking off Maheshwarans,hakeems etc security)"

We already discussed the cause of the problem!

Sinhalese feel unsafe too! Both in South and especially in North!

"govt. seems to be playing a role"? so you are not sure either?!!

NOT GOOD ENOUGH:no:

as I said earlier if you have proof please say so!! We also would like to know! because you are the one who's accusing!!!

and tell us in your opinion what should govt. do to make minority happy or to put it your way answer the "cause of the problem"!!! (still waiting for your answer)

so your answer is poilitics (UNP,PA,JVP...etc) it was like that is like that and will be like that (or maybe should be like that for you )...? is that what you telling.

Is it NOT?

as for the majority support for the government, then i dont think government has to buy MP's, threaten Them, keep ppl who went into media and kikced jusrnalist with drug leaders and murderers publicly..just to get a budget passed.

So your earlier argument is invalid then... so after all its not MP's from this govt. only who accept money and pass over!

I ask you again! tell then whom do we elect? RANIL?:rolleyes: :lol:

i have no personnel grudge with mahinda uncle, he's cool. and which president gave us a budget airline tell me? maybe you can take it when u fly next time.the money will benefit the country..cos "me ahasa ape"

Infact I think Sri Lankan airlines acquired by the govt. is also better! Now no need to pay 40% to an outsider!

but again it'll be safe in kuala lampur itself..

Totally irrelevant!!!

[just]

ok let me break down this so that others also can have an idea.

terrorrism should be fought militarily you dont have to prove that in 4 points buddy even i told that in my first post.if you din read or understand it, then im sorry

if otherwise maybe you can quate and prove.

so all this time what you were trying was prove im wrong in other two points;

1. govenments human rights media freedom and no proper economic management..etc
2. govenment not putting enough effort to win minorities who were expecting to get a good life as every sri lankan can and should.

first you seems to be need solid evidents for every single thing.

first if a govenment want everyone to know directly that its doing such things then it will be without doubt the govenment thats with most stupid people in the world.so arguments are based on reasonable doubts that we come into with facts we thats available.

maybe you have been out of SL for pretty long you dont know these facts.

even still you insist on evidence ill just ask you to prove these two facts with evidents if you can ill step down.these were arguments that you used.

FOR YOUR INFORMATION....AND AS A FACT..... NOWHERE IN THE WORLD A MINORITY IS FULLY SATISFIED BY ITS GOVERNMENT'S ACTIONS!!!

TELL ME IF THERE'S ANY COUNTRY THAT MINORITY NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH MAJORITY SELECTED GOVT.
ok shall i start listing countries will you prove with evidents that they have or had problems with monorities?:)

also once elected its not a govenment of majority or minority, all of them citizens thus it cant see them in differennt eyes. so even if you prove that each and every country i list has the issue (i mean IF YOU PROVE) still one cant make it an excuse.isnt it collecting taxes from all of them???
(you seems confusing this point, cos you talking about MAJORITY elected govenment often)


ok my two points:

1.solid evidence of govenments shutting of media.
in case if you dont know this is video of our labour minister going into state media with a murderer and a heroin dealer to kick a director whome didnt out what he wanted in TV.check it out here http://www.sendspace.com/file/tql4pv

and the enoumerous public support could be seen their.including as far as i know the first time a minister has been publicly called P****ya,and squeezed his balls (now i know why his face was like that :lol::lol::lol: poor gamunu).for your info no action has been taken against him but also his still the minister.

i can show you more videos of how he's behaving in public with utter filth in his mouth towards media.you want more? with a guy like "DOCTOR" Mervin silva in the cabinet you get things that you never think you can.so thanks to him i have solid evidence;)

human rights i can get you the letters, media relieses that of human civil right groups local and international have sent govenments to stop its hard policies and hunting down of political enemies.you want them?

if you saying this happened before as well.ya thats why ppl kicked them and mandated a new govenment (anyways thats a real silly argument buudy)

ok economy will just assum its not very controlable with world situation. but still we dont need a minister to make statements like..

"gas went up i cant help.."
"bread oh is it gone up??? i din know that"
"life is hard...but we cant do anything"
oh god and we have a cabinet of 110+ all luxaries with our taxes just to make statements :shocked::shocked:...



2.evidents of minority issue.
T.maheshwaran security was taken off before he was shot dead.maybe we dont know who shot him.but based on facts we can have reasonable doubts.several parties have directly accoused president and government including JVP of this murder...

and for your info he represented minority, he was democratically elected and he did talk about their rights.also rauff hakeems security was taken off cos he voted against budget. and in local election in east they say their lifes are thretened without security but government seems deaf.so why should government treat democractic leaders of minority like this if they dont have an issue with them? they've not taken any government ministers or even MP's security off..isnt this double standards?



also you know why you being there and i being here is relevant?

cos if a a guy whose effected with this govenments two spoon policy gets dissapointed, looses confident and decided to take down whose responsible.im sure you are safe and sound than me. in a way that gives me more right as the person who will have to face the consequences.

i'd like if you can answer based on these two points and arguments :yes:

[DJ.Parker]

thoughtful replies....:) pls continue

[just]

thoughtful replies....:) pls continue

thanks man :)

[x-pert]

Looks like Teron ;)

[sri_lion]

first if a govenment want everyone to know directly that its doing such things then it will be without doubt the govenment thats with most stupid people in the world.so arguments are based on reasonable doubts that we come into with facts we thats available.

Exactly!! so what are we arguing here? I'm saying the same thing!! So come back and argue when the facts are found!!!


ok shall i start listing countries will you prove with evidents that they have or had problems with monorities?

Go ahead!! Any multi-racial country, with a substantial amount of ethnicity (or similar to what Sri Lanka have) would do!!!

There's bound to be problems!! We have EK members all around the world let them tell the situations / issues of those countries!!! Would be a great opportunity!!

also once elected its not a govenment of majority or minority, all of them citizens thus it cant see them in differennt eyes. so even if you prove that each and every country i list has the issue (i mean IF YOU PROVE) still one cant make it an excuse.isnt it collecting taxes from all of them???
(you seems confusing this point, cos you talking about MAJORITY elected govenment often)


YES! In theory!! but in which country is it practical?

And if you talk about it democratically..... then democratically people will get what they deserve, power will be disseminate accordingly!! And then I'm asking democratically what the minority in SL does not have that the other have?

About the TAXES!! If Colombo collects higher TAXES than Jafna, Colombo residents will benefit more than Jafna! What's that gotta do with Minority Majority?

Besides, who pay more TAXES? 70% Sinhalese or the REST? Like I said, Sinhalese are the driving force of Sri Lanka they account for the majority of the economic development of the country and rightly so they will benefit mostly and have better lives... what's that gotta do with Majority Minority?

Dont get confused among legislation rights and sheer numbers!!

ok let me break down this so that others also can have an idea.

terrorrism should be fought militarily you dont have to prove that in 4 points buddy even i told that in my first post.if you din read or understand it, then im sorry

if otherwise maybe you can quate and prove.

so all this time what you were trying was prove im wrong in other two points;

1. govenments human rights media freedom and no proper economic management..etc
2. govenment not putting enough effort to win minorities who were expecting to get a good life as every sri lankan can and should.

ok my two points:

1.solid evidence of govenments shutting of media.
in case if you dont know this is video of our labour minister going into state media with a murderer and a heroin dealer to kick a director whome didnt out what he wanted in TV.check it out here http://www.sendspace.com/file/tql4pv

and the enoumerous public support could be seen their.including as far as i know the first time a minister has been publicly called P****ya,and squeezed his balls (now i know why his face was like that poor gamunu).for your info no action has been taken against him but also his still the minister.

i can show you more videos of how he's behaving in public with utter filth in his mouth towards media.you want more? with a guy like "DOCTOR" Mervin silva in the cabinet you get things that you never think you can.so thanks to him i have solid evidence

Dude!! AGAIN!!!! What are you trying to prove here?? I never said govt. is not trying to curb media!! All I'm saying there's no such thing as a perfect govt.

Ok this is what I want to know from you!! Tell me this!

1. Is it only this govt. that tried to curb media? Yes or No
2. If "YES" then you are utterly wrong.. You need proof? I can give you
3. If "No"

Ask yourself, have you always concerned for these kind of issues whatever govt. was in power?

if "YES"

Then good.. I salute you!!! You are an unbiased man whom always stood by what you believed!!

then my question..

What do you think we should do about it? I wanna hear your plan!!!

Maybe then we can discuss / argue whether your plan is a viable solution or not!!

if "NO"

Then you are MUD SLINGING only at current govt. which makes you AN ANTI-RAJAPAKSE!!!

SO YOU CHOOSE!!!


There's no point you arguing with me over this.. My only argument with you is currently WAR is the only solution for the Sri Lanka vs. LTTE issue!!

You agreed!! and that's it!!

As for Mervin Silva and his Son and his thugs!! I'm with you! I hate them too!!

And FYI... media is not perfect either!! Switch on a radio around mid night.. can you listen to those (sex) stories with your child? and go on a bus at that time!!! I mean you are sooooo in SL you should be talking about these thing too right? A media like "SIRASA" who earn from Sri Lankans can say "Tamilselvan Mahatha"? Even CNN doesn't call "Mr.Bin Laden"!!!

That's by the way is "Mr." would suit any hypocrite.... but this is "Mahatha" which breaks down to "Maha+Uththamaya" in Sinhalese!!!

Either SIRASA does not know Sinhalese in which case what good a media station which does not know county's national language!! else they do it purposely which is.... TREASON and Playing with people's thoughts!! Another example!! you dont have to go that far... just yesterday.. LTTE has released a statement saying they need the CFA back and they will obey 100% this time!!! How many Sri Lankans know this? Members of this forum will witness that yesterday they heard in Media saying LTTE made a statement that they are ready for war, since govt. is asking for it!!!

So this is the Media for you? Then I can say Media violated human rights too!! Our rights to know the truth!!!

2.evidents of minority issue.
T.maheshwaran security was taken off before he was shot dead.maybe we dont know who shot him.but based on facts we can have reasonable doubts.several parties have directly accoused president and government including JVP of this murder...and for your info he represented minority, he was democratically elected and he did talk about their rights.

YES! I don't see any mis use of power here... Like you said we don't know who shot him, and according to law and order a case in the process.... and in this case witnesses were not being able to recognize the killer either.. right??

Again.. I understand reasonable doubts.. but you and I both know innocent or guilty depends on the conclusion upon the facts collected, Not only Maheswaran incident every crime has more than 1 suspects if there's no witness!!! as in his case even witness failed him!!

And democratically justice is being done for him.. his killers or suspects under trial now.. so what the issue? Reducing security doesnt mean that anyone will get killed then like you said Rauf Hakeem's security also reduced and he still alive!!

Last time Premadasa was accused of mass murder too.. did they ever find any evidence to support the theory, Ranil was linked to Batalanda but he still at large..so how can people believe in these MUD SLINGING anymore??

So we do not know who killed him yet.. and that's the basis for your minority problem.. so you can't really classify what problem it is without knowing who the killer belong to!! If the killer belongs to LTTE then this is no more a minority problem its a terrorist problem!!

If you need me to comment on minority problems you need to find specific problems that each minority has as Tamils, Muslims etc. that Sinalese does not have!! (if Sinhalese have the same problem it wouldn't be only a problem for minority.. would it?)

Then we'll talk!!

also rauff hakeems security was taken off cos he voted against budget. and in local election in east they say their lifes are thretened without security but government seems deaf.so why should government treat democractic leaders of minority like this if they dont have an issue with them? they've not taken any government ministers or even MP's security off..isnt this double standards?

Persoanlly.. I really DONT CARE ABOUT Rauf Hakeem... I WISH IF HE IS DEAD!!

Because he not only mis used his own people's trust he also sold every Sri Lankan when he paid his condolences to "Tamilselvan", you are in SL.. you should know what he said!! or you want me to remind you?

If he at least remember the Kattankudi Muslim Mosque Massacre in August 1990 which LTTE killed over 100 Muslims while they were praying inside a holy mosque!!

And he pay condolances to LTTE? WHAT A SHAME!!!

HE IS AS GOOD AS A TERRORIST TO ME!!!

Now who is having double standards?

[sri_lion]

Looks like Teron ;)

only GT knows! :yes: :lol:

[sri_lion]

human rights i can get you the letters, media relieses that of human civil right groups local and international have sent govenments to stop its hard policies and hunting down of political enemies.you want them?


Sorry I seem to have missed this part from your reply...


So about human rights!! if there were suppose to look at human rights then they must look at human rights!! Then I'm sure they looked at Sinhalese rights too!! So you can post those evidence and we'll see how fair they really are!!!

Besides you already agreed that WAR is the only and current solution for the problem (according to the earlier 4 points)!! But do you remember these human rights org. / NGOs protested when govt. try to make WAR? Which is now we both have agreed is the solution (Man!! you are the one in SL you should remember these)!! So they were obstructing the solution! which side are you now?

if you saying this happened before as well.ya thats why ppl kicked them and mandated a new govenment (anyways thats a real silly argument buudy)

Oh! then why worry? people wil make another govt. :lol: :lol:


ok economy will just assum its not very controlable with world situation. but still we dont need a minister to make statements like..

"gas went up i cant help.."
"bread oh is it gone up??? i din know that"
"life is hard...but we cant do anything"
oh god and we have a cabinet of 110+ all luxaries with our taxes just to make statements ...

Agreed! then again I've heard them before!! I remember once Srimani Athulathmudali answered to a question by a journalist "Why the trains are late?"

She said there are COWS on the tracks!! :lol: :lol: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

and also like Ranil went to Polonnaruwa and promised farmers that he'll replace "BULATHWITA" with "CHEWING GUM"

So Nothing new.. unless you have a solution for it!! Well... I don't !!

About the Luxury lives of Ministers... again, nothing new and they've always had thier privileges, but people also seems to have forgotten that they also can face the most ruthless death anywhere anytime... so there are risks too!!!

WAR is the solution and you know it I know it.. current govt.'s time not over yet and it will have to maintain this until either their time is over or the WAR is over! If govt. loses out people losing out as well.... the elections which will cost more... and most of all economy will further go down because of the political instability!! with far reaching consequences!! Which at the peak of the WAR makes it much more harder!! etc. etc.

So in order to address the bigger problem, everybody has to make some sacrifices!! Like they have been for 25 years!!! You can argue on this but you'll end up just doing that!!

[uhox]

onna me topic ekata adala info tikak denawa...Meka PRO ltte PROFESSOR kenek liyapu ekak...LTTE eke vikashanaya gena

Pirapaharan, Chapter 15
JR Visits China and the US

by T. Sabaratnam

(Volume 2)

The Chunnakam Massacre

Trade and Shipping Minister Lalith Athulathmudali was appointed Minister of National Security and Deputy Defence Minister on 23 March 1984. An Oxford educated lawyer-politician with an unbridled ambition to succeed Jayewardene as the president of Sri Lanka, Athulathmudali took the appointment as the gateway to realize his desire. He plunged into the task of destroying the Tamil armed struggle with enthusiasm and demonstrated to the Sinhala masses that he was the real reincarnate of Dutugemunu, the ancient Sinhala King who defeated the Tamil monarch Elara and reinstated the Sinhala dominance.

Sinhala politics of the 1980s should be understood to place the anti-Tamil activities of the Jayewardene regime in the correct context and perspective. Athulathmudali, Mahaweli and Lands Minister Gamini Dissanayake and Ranasinghe Premadasa were competing to succeed Jayewardene, whose second six-year term of office would end in 1988. They were competing to present themselves as the best Sinhala nationalist leader.

Gamini Dissanayake had already chosen his role as the minister who implemented Jayewardene’s third policy track of destroying the basis for Tamil Eelam, the claim for a Tamil homeland. Premadasa had taken upon himself the role of denying the Tamil demand for an autonomous federal region. Athulathmudali had now received the opening to present himself before the Sinhala electorate as the leader who destroyed the Tamil freedom struggle, which he and Jayewardene called Tamil terrorism.

Athulathmudali got into the act soon after being appointed. He summoned a top level conference of service and police chiefs soon after he took over the new posts at the Defence Ministry. He invited me to cover the function and the conference. He announced at the conclusion of the conference, "Tomorrow we are going to Jaffna. President Jayewardene had given me two specific tasks. The first task is to defeat terrorism. The second is to transform the ceremonial military into a fighting force. We cannot fulfill those tasks sitting here in Colombo. We will go to the scene of the battle. Tomorrow morning we will be working out our strategy to defeat terrorism from Jaffna."

I decided to opt out of the press corps that accompanied Athulathmudali to Jaffna. I told him that the usual defence reporter would fly with him to Jaffna. I told him that I would continue to cover his trade and shipping ministry and the All Party Conference (APC), which had been sitting at the BMICH since January 1984. I told him that, being a Tamil, I would be looked at with suspicion by the military and that, being a Jaffna man, I would face the risk of death. He readily accepted my reservations. He said, "Saba. You are right." My respect for him grew.

Jayewardene appointed General Sepala Attygala as defence secretary and his son Ravi Jayewardene as national security advisor.

Lalith Athulathmudali

Athulathmudali flew to Jaffna in the morning of 24 March 1984. Attygala, Ravi Jayewardene, commanders of the army, navy and airforce and the Inspector General of Police went with him. Senior army and police officers deployed in the Jaffna district attended the conference. Half an hour after the conference started Jaffna’s Police Superintendent whispered to the IGP that a sergeant and two police constables had been killed in Point Pedro. The IGP passed the message to Athulathmudali, who was visibly shocked.

The LTTE had carefully planned this attack. It was intended to give a message to Athulathmudali. A group of LTTE hit-men waylaid and attacked a police patrol in Point Pedro. A sergeant and two police constables were killed in the spot and two other constables and the driver were injured. T he attackers fled with the weapons of the policemen.

Two days later, on 26 March, gunmen shot and killed a member of the airforce in Chunnakam. Airforce men avenged his death two days later, 28 March. They arrived at the Chunnakam market, the biggest vegetable market in the Jaffna peninsula, in a jeep and a truck and went to the Chunnakam police station. Then they went to the market packed with people as it was a market day. They then opened fire on the civilians in the Chunnakam market square.

Nine persons died and over 50 were injured and Subramaniam, known as Maniam, the market keeper, collapsed and died of a heart attack in the market square.



The LTTE and other armed groups were now ready to attack the Sri Lankan security forces. The LTTE decided to punish the security forces for the Chunnakam massacre. They decided to ambush the platoon of soldiers who belonged to the newly-formed Gajaba Regiment which provided guard to the trains plying between Colombo and Jaffna. The soldiers who provide guard to the Yal Devi express train disembark at Jaffna station and travel in a convoy of vehicles to Palaly Camp. Yarl Devi reaches Jaffna at around 9.30 p.m. The convoy, led by a five-ton Bedford truck, went along Hospital Road to the town and then proceeded to Palaly.

Car Bomb Attack

On 9 April the train was slightly late and the convoy of three vehicles left the station at about 9.45 p.m. As it was traveling along Hospital Road, a booby-trapped car parked near the historic Adaikala Matha Church exploded throwing the massive truck twenty meters away. The truck fell into the drain. Thick branches of a shade tree that stood about 70 feet away were shaved off at various places. Leaves on some branches were roasted. Over ten soldiers who travelled in the truck died. It took several minutes for the soldiers in the other vehicles to recover,

The 9 April explosion was the LTTE’s and Sri Lanka’s first car bomb explosion. Before that car bombs had been used by the IRA and Palestinian guerillas.

The army retaliated. Soldiers set fire to the shops and houses in the vicinity. They shot and killed the people who tried to escape. Two armoured cars stationed at the Buddhist temple, Naga Vihara, rushed to the scene of the ambush and fired several rounds with the 7.27 guns at the church, damaging the building and the statue of Jesus Christ.

The Catholics were enraged. On 10 April morning the entire Catholic coastal belt rose in protest. A group of civilians first marched around 8 a.m. to the Sinhala Vidyalayam which the army used as a resting place and burnt the buildings. Another mob vented its anger at the Buddhist Naga Vihara at Stanley Road around 8.30 a.m. Eye witnesses told me that the people were so worked up that they marched to the Vihara with crow bars and iron rods and demolished the building to the ground. Many used their bare hands to pull down the buildings.

Two weeks after that incident I met the chief priest of the vihara in Colombo. He showed me an album of photographs which showed a mound of rubble. He blamed the LTTE for the destruction.

Eight armed youths entered the Jaffna branch of the Bank of Ceylon when it opened the door at 9 a.m. and robbed 1.2 million rupees in cash. They escaped in the bank manager’s car.

The government declared an 18-hour curfew at 12 noon on 10 April in the Jaffna district. A large contingent of soldiers was brought to the Jaffna town that night. They burnt down the Jaffna Cooperative Stores and the adjacent buildings. They fired at civilians, killing many.

Soldiers tried to march towards Gurunagar, the densely populated Catholic village to the southeast of Jaffna city. The residents, led by Catholic priests, put up road blocks. They parked vehicles across the road. They burnt used tyres and logs of wood. The LTTE took a lead in mobilizing the people. Kittu and other LTTE cadres were there distributing grenades and petrol bombs.

The LTTE and other militant groups succeeded in restricting the movement of the soldiers. The army and the Colombo press were upset over this development. An army officer described to the Daily News this new phenomenon thus: "The terrorists employed new tactics, not encountered previously, to prevent the free movement of army patrols."

An Information Department publication Mission of Violence has this: "On the night of April 10, army patrols encountered road blocks, burning tyres were thrown on the road and at several points, were ambushed by armed youths, who used their firepower with the assurance of professional soldiers."

Jaffna Government Agent Devanesan Nesiah said the military killed more than 50 civilians. The Jaffna Citizen Committee claimed that the number killed by the army was 234 civilians in the four days beginning 9 April. State Ministry secretary Douglas told the weekly press briefing, "I cannot say every single person killed was a terrorist. When soldiers are ambushed or come under attack they fire in all directions. What else can they do? After all how does one identify a terrorist?"

On the same night a group of armed LTTE cadres exhibited the high degree of professionalism they had achieved. At 8.15 they walked into the Point Pedro police station, firing automatic weapons as they entered. The policemen threw away their old shotguns and fled. The Tigers used powerful explosives and blasted the buildings and burnt the two jeeps parked in front and walked away taking with a walkie-talkie set.

The August 9 ambush gave a new dimension to the armed struggle. The LTTE made use of the car bomb for the first time. It mobilized the people against the army. It successfully restricted the army's movement. And, above all, the ambush signified the intensification and sophistication of the armed struggle.

Athulathmudali reacted with anger. He had been aware of India’s training program since December 1983. The first ten days of April 1984 had demonstrated the high level of efficiency the armed groups, especially the Tigers, had achieved. The security council meeting he presided over on 11 April considered ways and means of curtailing the movement of the militants across the Palk Straits. The result was the creation of a maritime restricted zone, also known as a surveillance zone, inside Sri Lanka’s territorial waters.

Athulathmudali told the press that evening that no ship or boat would be allowed to be inside the maritime restricted zone without the permission of the Navy Commander. The boats that travelled with permission would be escorted by a navy patrol craft. He said the restriction was imposed to prevent smuggling of narcotics and to prevent the movement of terrorists between Sri Lanka and India.

Foreign Mercenaries

Athulathmudali was questioned at that press briefing about the induction of the Israeli Internal Security Agency Shin Bet into Sri Lanka. He admitted that Shin Bet was involved in the training of the Sri Lankan armed forces. He said many Israeli officers were involved in the training of the Sri Lankan soldiers in Colombo.

His admission was carefully structured in the form of a question. He said, "Is it wrong to get our soldiers trained when terrorists are being trained? The events of the last few days have proved beyond any shred of doubt that terrorists are given professional training in guerrilla warfare."

The Sri Lankan government also hired in the next few months Keeny Meeny Services, a Channel Island-based British mercenary company, to train the Sri Lankan Special Task Force (STF), an elite police commando unit set up under the command of Ravi Jayewardene. The former British Special Air Services personnel provided by the company trained STF personal in counterinsurgency methods. British mercenaries and British pilots of this company also took part in combat.

The British pilots piloted helicopter gunship and combat aircraft. They took part in bombing raids in the Jaffna Peninsula. These British mercenaries were paid a monthly salary of around 2,500 British pounds per person. They operated in Sri Lanka with the tacit approval of Margaret Thatcher's government. British weapon manufacturers sold huge quantity of armaments to Sri Lanka in April, 1984. Twenty armoured vehicles, a large quantity of night vision equipment, SLGs, LMGs, etc. were bought.

Pakistan also provided training and weapons to Sri Lanka, especially during President Zia Ul-Haq's period. Reports said that more than 8,000 Sri Lankan troops were trained in counterinsurgency. Pakistani-trained men wore black shirts and were responsible for indiscriminate killings.

Athulathmudali, while engaged in upgrading the quality of the army, was also busy in raising its numerical strength. When he took charge in March 1984 the strength of the army was about 15,000 with 11,000 regulars and 4000 volunteers. He launched a rapid recruitment drive by lowering the educational and physical requirements of enlistees.

A week after the imposition of the maritime restricted zone a naval patrol craft detained a boat which refused to stop when asked to do so. The boat, fitted with two 25 horse power engines, was taking fresh recruits for training in Tamil Nadu. Thirteen were arrested and investigators found among them a young boy aged 16. Athulathmudali flew to Palaly to question him. The boy said he was forcibly being taken to India for training. He added that he had agreed to go with the three hardcore terrorists because they threatened to kill his parents. For Athulathmudali the boy was a propaganda treasure.

On 1 May 1984 gunmen shot a Tamil police constable in Kalmunai town, thus restarting the militant campaign to eliminate Tamil informers and Tamil police investigators. He was the first policeman to die in the eastern province. Next day, 2 May, police constable Navaratnam was gunned down at the Point Pedro bus stand. Navaratnam, a member of the elite Special Unit established to arrest militants was about to board a bus to Jaffna. Two youths who rode on bicycles shot him and escaped. Two days later, 4 May, Police Constable Subramaniam, another police investigator of the Special Unit, was gunned down at Meesalai in the Chavakachcheri area. The LTTE killed him for providing the Military Intelligence Unit stationed in the Gurunagar Army Camp information about the hideout of Seelan who died on 15 June, 1983.


The escalation of the clash between the army and the militants also resulted in another undesired result which helped the militants to consolidate their position among the people. The army took control of the civil administration of the Jaffna peninsula, gradually pushing the civilian administration to the background. Palaly and Elephant Pass military camps emerged as the new power centres. The commanders of these camps dictated policy and regulated administrative functions, providing primacy to military interests.

The overlord attitude of the military commanders antagonized civilian administrators. The situation in which better-educated civil servants had to take orders from low-placed military officers created a group of time-servers who were waiting to undermine the military. This process heightened the Sinhala-Tamil estrangement.

LTTE eka wardanaya une ohomai...Lalith athulathmudali mahatha saha Denzil kobbekaduwa mahatha nayakathwaya dun Vadamarachchi oparetion eka INDIAN MEDIHATH weema nisa upset nogiya nam..ada LTTE ekak nehe

[DJ.Parker]

anyone knows d history b4 king ravana?

[~ShImMeRiNg~]

Lol!..i really liked the way u've written about the war....quite interesting..did make me laugh at times!
good job:yes:
thx;)

[Eranda200]

All conclude one theory: LTTEs are fuckin pussies.

[DJ.Parker]

bump

[x-pert]

Lol!..i really liked the way u've written about the war....quite interesting..did make me laugh at times!
good job:yes:
thx;)

Laugh ??? :lol:

Anywayz thanks for reading it :)

[x-pert]

anyone knows d history b4 king ravana?

Thanks machang :) I'll try to search on that a bit :)

[uhox]

Thanks machang :) I'll try to search on that a bit :)


search around the Rumassala and saptha kanya jungles...
yu ll find em...;)

[nabil]

president rajapakshe on NDTV at da moment. thiyana kattiya balanda. hes talking about da war.

[madurax86]

i dont knw abt more things to add bt i learnd sum history :P thnx 2 xpert
attrib -R -S -H prabha.the.suker
del prabha.the.suker

for the ppl hu knws MSDOS :P

[x-pert]

search around the Rumassala and saptha kanya jungles...
yu ll find em...;)

If you wanna know about Hanuman and Kalunika then go to Roomaswala ;)

[sri_lion]

president rajapakshe on NDTV at da moment. thiyana kattiya balanda. hes talking about da war.

Will appreciate if someone can record and post it please!!!

[nabil]

Will appreciate if someone can record and post it please!!!
no way of capturing it :( i need to get a TV card soon

[uhox]

If you wanna know about Hanuman and Kalunika then go to Roomaswala ;)


There are gravitational variations around the Roomassala....
that mountain has its spirit...it feels us....

there are many links between the Rumassala, balangoda (saptha kanya-sri pada) and the Miniha gal kanda from the proto-historic times (in the yala jungles- )
:dull:

sorry for going off topic

[kepu]

how did u find those :confused: :confused: from UNDERGROUND ?:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: