Copying music

[srilankan]

I'm not gonna talk about MP3s here, but how Sri Lankan artist have copied international music to create their music.

I downloaded the video called "A Hetha" from Iraj Delon & Shani. The interesting part comes at the end; the scratch. The scratch is a complete copy from the track "pump me up" by Will Smith. The track was in an album called "Willenium". Isn't it pathetic that Iraj can't make his own scratch? Wasn't there a single person to do that scratch?

If you think that's the only one i'll give another. The beat of "Mata Hithanna Ba" is from Busta Rhyms's song "Make it clap". Just listen to that if anyone think i'm wrong.

Iraj isn't the only one who does this. Ashanti's "Sanda wathuren" is made up of many english track parts. It's rhythm is from "Lay low" by Nate Dogg and Snoop dogg. The thubla is from Missy Elliot's song "Get Your Freak On" and there are many parts like that.

I can give more examples, but dont have time now. I dont say that these people dont have a talent, but copying like that without acknowledging the original one is pathetic.

all your comments are welcome, but please listen to the original tracks before you do.

[x-pert]

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[DJ.Parker]

I'm not gonna talk about MP3s here, but how Sri Lankan artist have copied international music to create their music.

I downloaded the video called "A Hetha" from Iraj Delon & Shani. The interesting part comes at the end; the scratch. The scratch is a complete copy from the track "pump me up" by Will Smith. The track was in an album called "Willenium". Isn't it pathetic that Iraj can't make his own scratch? Wasn't there a single person to do that scratch?

If you think that's the only one i'll give another. The beat of "Mata Hithanna Ba" is from Busta Rhyms's song "Make it clap". Just listen to that if anyone think i'm wrong.

Iraj isn't the only one who does this. Ashanti's "Sanda wathuren" is made up of many english track parts. It's rhythm is from "Lay low" by Nate Dogg and Snoop dogg. The thubla is from Missy Elliot's song "Get Your Freak On" and there are many parts like that.

I can give more examples, but dont have time now. I dont say that these people dont have a talent, but copying like that without acknowledging the original one is pathetic.

all your comments are welcome, but please listen to the original tracks before you do.

I wish gud luck to u with upcoming repies:)
not my type of music;)

[DJ.Parker]

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paw yako:P

woow..............what a year this has being

[ran123456]

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[isharackp]

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ahh mallita tharu dekak nam thiyenawa wage.. eath post??:no: :no: :no:
Thanx for showing this X-pert ayya... hehe:lol: :lol: :lol:

[ran123456]

u might b correct !!!!!!!!!

[ereshthush]

hmmmmmmmmmm

[Samdpth]

Yes bro, abs right,but not my kind of music

[shanX]

True and sad, but wt to do :D

[Gomida]

If you think that's the only one i'll give another. The beat of "Mata Hithanna Ba" is from Busta Rhyms's song "Make it clap". Just listen to that if anyone think i'm wrong.

Mata sithanna ba's beat is an old Nanda Malini's song..
(Put a search at EK, you'll find it .. )
So talking to your point, how the hell "Make it clap" got dat beat :P ??

[Gomida]

Anyway, no comments from me to that Q, coz to my POV, music must modernize with the listner's tastes and to go with the society :yes:

[I must give a deep reply.. Im sleepy now ;)]

[DJ.Parker]

Mata sithanna ba's beat is an old Nanda Malini's song..
(Put a search at EK, you'll find it .. )
So talking to your point, how the hell "Make it clap" got dat beat :P ??

muchan dats "mata aloke genadevi" i guess:)

[farshad]

hmmmmmmmmmm

[BRAINY]

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paw wede... porata tharu penei replies dakinakota

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[i.am.the.best]

WOW... Ela bro ela... Great work...

[Cracker]

members please dont go out of topic.. stick to the topic of the topic hoster..

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;) Got D Piont

[nuren]

I'm not gonna talk about MP3s here, but how Sri Lankan artist have copied international music to create their music.

I downloaded the video called "A Hetha" from Iraj Delon & Shani. The interesting part comes at the end; the scratch. The scratch is a complete copy from the track "pump me up" by Will Smith. The track was in an album called "Willenium". Isn't it pathetic that Iraj can't make his own scratch? Wasn't there a single person to do that scratch?

If you think that's the only one i'll give another. The beat of "Mata Hithanna Ba" is from Busta Rhyms's song "Make it clap". Just listen to that if anyone think i'm wrong.

Iraj isn't the only one who does this. Ashanti's "Sanda wathuren" is made up of many english track parts. It's rhythm is from "Lay low" by Nate Dogg and Snoop dogg. The thubla is from Missy Elliot's song "Get Your Freak On" and there are many parts like that.

I can give more examples, but dont have time now. I dont say that these people dont have a talent, but copying like that without acknowledging the original one is pathetic.

all your comments are welcome, but please listen to the original tracks before you do.

ur absolutely rit but at the same time u need to understand the principles or base of HIPHOP
so eg - this is from the album Late Registration by kanYe West

jst 2 giv u a brief -

Late Registration is the second studio album by hip hop artist and producer Kanye West. The album was released on August 30, 2005, and debuted at #1, selling over 860,000 copies in its first week. Rolling Stone magazine named it their Album of the Year. It has gone on to sell over 3.5 million copies in the U.S. and received a great deal of acclaim from critics.
The album was nominated for Album of the Year at the Grammy Awards of 2006 and received the award for Best Rap Album.


jst visit this n ull understand EVERYTHING

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Registration

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Registration#Track_listing

so there goes, its the nature of hiphop music(but still new). :D :D :D :D

at the same time i have to tell u im not trying 2 justify them coz producers like Quincy Jones never did such things but thats a total different case.

[chiraa]

you got it all wrong fellllow

Beat of ''Mata sithanna ba'' is based on the song ''preethi preethi'' - A song in a old movie called ''ashokamaala''
It has got nothing to do with busta rhymes ''make it clap''.. The Two tracks are comletely different from each other..

Anyways.. No one can question Iraj's Remakes... Because He has OBTAINED LEGAL PERMISSION FROM THIER RESPECTIVE OWNERS TO MODIFY THE ORIGINAL SOUND TRACKS..

not only ''mata sithanna ba'' , he also obtained legal permission to remake the track ''Mata aloke genedevi'' From Thissa Nagodawithana and SARIGAMA CORPERATION - India ..


Talking about using other ppls music ,Then I think you should blame Dr. Amaradeva too. bcuz he has used a very popular western song's melody in the song ''NIM HIM SEWWA ''..and many more senior artists did the same thing. (And without proper permission of course...)
I can show many more examples if you like...

BTW . everything changes. so is music. I don't see anything bad about using older songs melodies to create new tracks...As long as They have legal permission to do them and As long as ppl love those songs...

As a srilankan, I'm so happy to see a talented guy like Iraj taking our small country's name to the world..


So I Guess there's nothing to discuss here.....

[nj542]

you got it all wrong fellllow

Beat of ''Mata sithanna ba'' is based on the song ''preethi preethi'' - A song in a old movie called ''ashokamaala''
It has got nothing to do with busta rhymes ''make it clap''.. The Two tracks are comletely different from each other..

Anyways.. No one can question Iraj's Remakes... Because He has OBTAINED LEGAL PERMISSION FROM THIER RESPECTIVE OWNERS TO MODIFY THE ORIGINAL SOUND TRACKS..

not only ''mata sithanna ba'' , he also obtained legal permission to remake the track ''Mata aloke genedevi'' From Thissa Nagodawithana and SARIGAMA CORPERATION - India ..


Talking about using other ppls music ,Then I think you should blame Dr. Amaradeva too. bcuz he has used a very popular western song's melody in the song ''NIM HIM SEWWA ''..and many more senior artists did the same thing. (And without proper permission of course...)
I can show many more examples if you like...

BTW . everything changes. so is music. I don't see anything bad about using older songs melodies to create new tracks...As long as They have legal permission to do them and As long as ppl love those songs...

As a srilankan, I'm so happy to see a talented guy like Iraj taking our small country's name to the world..


So I Guess there's nothing to discuss here.....

u r correct bro.................

EAP radio is full of such a copy music.....................
all from old English tracks...................
definitely they don't have permission to do such things..................
if the original publishers found out they'll have to pay in big times.............
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[korn]

Then most f Jothi's songs are Hindi copeis.... bt in Hip Hop Loops they use Loops which r much similar i ges...

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[mozart]

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[Gomida]

muchan dats "mata aloke genadevi" i guess:)
No machan its mata sithanna ba ;)

Here's da link if you wanna here it :D
http://www.infolanka.com/miyuru_gee/old/o100.ram

[nadeeraroshan]

paw yako:P

woow..............what a year this has being
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[Nic]

cnt believe only one post !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[Kalindugayan]

monawada karanne

[srilankan]

you got it all wrong fellllow

Beat of ''Mata sithanna ba'' is based on the song ''preethi preethi'' - A song in a old movie called ''ashokamaala''
It has got nothing to do with busta rhymes ''make it clap''.. The Two tracks are comletely different from each other..

Anyways.. No one can question Iraj's Remakes... Because He has OBTAINED LEGAL PERMISSION FROM THIER RESPECTIVE OWNERS TO MODIFY THE ORIGINAL SOUND TRACKS..

not only ''mata sithanna ba'' , he also obtained legal permission to remake the track ''Mata aloke genedevi'' From Thissa Nagodawithana and SARIGAMA CORPERATION - India ..


Talking about using other ppls music ,Then I think you should blame Dr. Amaradeva too. bcuz he has used a very popular western song's melody in the song ''NIM HIM SEWWA ''..and many more senior artists did the same thing. (And without proper permission of course...)
I can show many more examples if you like...

BTW . everything changes. so is music. I don't see anything bad about using older songs melodies to create new tracks...As long as They have legal permission to do them and As long as ppl love those songs...

As a srilankan, I'm so happy to see a talented guy like Iraj taking our small country's name to the world..


So I Guess there's nothing to discuss here.....


Seems like you know Iraj pretty closely. anyway i didnt talk about his remakes. If you listen watch that video clip, the scratch is directly from "Pump me Up". There is a lot of scratching in Will Smiths tack by DJ Jezzy Jrff. How pathetic to EXTRACT a scratch from someone else's track into his track. To make it worse there is a someone acting as a DJ in the video. Has Iraj or any one in the song got permission from Colombia Music or Will Smith or DJ Jezzy Jeff? i don't think so.

I'm not trying to compare senior artists and junior artists or anything here but i cant keep my mouth shut when "artists" are doing such things. I'm not blaming all those on Iraj. K. Sujeewas first song (it's not worth to remember the name even) is the most horrible copy i have seen. Don't mix up remakes and copying music.

Taking old melodies is fine as long as the original is acknowledged. In this one it's more like extracting than copying.

[chiraa]

the scratch is directly from "Pump me Up". There is a lot of scratching
in Will Smiths tack by DJ Jezzy Jrff.

Prove it with proper evidence..Do a proper technical comparison here So we can see whether if it's really copied or not..
Then I'll accept it.

Has Iraj or any one in the song got permission
from Colombia Music or Will Smith or DJ Jezzy Jeff?

He don't have to prove it bcuz he didn't copy or steal it..The scratches might
go along with a similar tempo or any Other similar thing..But I can assure you that IT IS NOT FROM JESSIE'S SCRATCHS..

Even If he want to use the same scratch .. he would contact Colombia records and Request for proper permission before using it in his song without any hesitation..
Specially When it comes to a song in an album which he released under UNIVERSAL RECORDS.

Realasing an album under a label like universal records is far more complex than we see.. they have to pay big $$ for the label..followed by many regulations, conditions and terms...

relevent authorities in the company inspects the album before release..If there were such thing they'ld have noticed it. And they won't let the Track to be included in his album.Cuz it causes damage and legal problems to the company..Not the artist..
But this track IS IN HIS ALBUM..Passed every single inspection..
I hope That was clear enough for you..

I'm not trying to compare senior artists and junior artists or anything here
why? senior or junior or wat'eva, copying WITHOUT PERMISSION cannot be accepted.

K. Sujeewas first song (it's not worth to
remember the name even) is the most horrible copy i have seen.

Totally agreed. she've copied another song without proper acknowledgment..
the song is called "cancion del mariachi" .. Played by a group called "Los Lobos"..Most popular as a soundtrack from the movie desperado.Now this is real copying...

Taking old melodies is fine as long as the original is acknowledged.

exactly. agreed.

Also answer ma Q' ..

1. Do you believe (or do you know) that iraj's Mata sithanna ba is based on busta rhymes make it clap? Prove with proper evidence?

2. Can you do a proper comparison about the scratchs in the songs "a hetha" and "Pump me up?" And prove that the two scratchs are the same?

talk with facts.. Like I do..

PS : I'm not here to wash anyone's clothes..This is my sole opinion on this topic...Just talking about what's right and what's wrong..

[chinthxgt]

BHATHIYA SANTHUSH GE 'WASANTHAYE'

[chinthxgt]

BHATHIYA SANTHUSH GE 'WASANTHAYE' song 1ke tune 1kath completely a ONE BIG COPY!! from BAROQUE period. i will post it as a new thread

[x-pert]

BHATHIYA SANTHUSH GE 'WASANTHAYE' song 1ke tune 1kath completely a ONE BIG COPY!! from BAROQUE period. i will post it as a new thread

No need to post it again machang. Search and see.. It was here already.

[Wal Bada]

No machan its mata sithanna ba ;)

Here's da link if you wanna here it :D
http://www.infolanka.com/miyuru_gee/old/o100.ramGood observation. Like to know whether he has taken pemission from the directors of Ashokamala for that.

[pamithK]

No machan its mata sithanna ba ;)

Here's da link if you wanna here it :D
http://www.infolanka.com/miyuru_gee/old/o100.ram


machan u r posting a sri lankan website here ne..so is it not spamming?:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

i mean isn't this enough to get banned?

[Wal Bada]

Prove it with proper evidence..Do a proper technical comparison here So we can see whether if it's really copied or not..
Then I'll accept it.Why don't you do it and show they are different? This is the argument made by many people who want cover up their friends. Question has taken a 180º turn and now both of you have to prove your points. Tunes of "Preethi preethi" and "Mata sithanna ba" are identical. Doesn't matter because it is now in the public domain, after 56 years of production.


He don't have to prove it bcuz he didn't copy or steal it..The scratches might go along with a similar tempo or any Other similar thing..But I can assure you that IT IS NOT FROM JESSIE'S SCRATCHS..Extremely sure?


Realasing an album under a label like universal records is far more complex than we see.. they have to pay big $$ for the label..followed by many regulations, conditions and terms...

relevent authorities in the company inspects the album before release..If there were such thing they'ld have noticed it. And they won't let the Track to be included in his album.Cuz it causes damage and legal problems to the company..Not the artist..
But this track IS IN HIS ALBUM..Passed every single inspection..
I hope That was clear enough for you.. Now what is their level of understanding about SL music? Near zero I feel. Copies from Lankan musicians will go unnoticed on these tracks.


1. Do you believe (or do you know) that iraj's Mata sithanna ba is based on busta rhymes make it clap? Prove with proper evidence?

2. Can you do a proper comparison about the scratchs in the songs "a hetha" and "Pump me up?" And prove that the two scratchs are the same?

talk with facts.. Like I doI have not seen you produce a single fact to prve what you have posted. All of your posts are stories. No technica analysis has been done by you also. You'll have to prove that thay are different.

PS : I'm not here to wash anyone's clothes..This is my sole opinion on this topic...Just talking about what's right and what's wrong..Unfortunately, you are doing it.

[Wal Bada]

machan u r posting a sri lankan website here ne..so is it not spamming?:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

i mean isn't this enough to get banned?Post like This (http://www.infolanka.com/miyuru_gee/old/o100.ram). So then it will open up the stream on real player without going to the site. BTW, that is a song library, and no other site can produce that much of old songs.

pamithK>> have you ever tried uploading a song like "preethi preethi" to ElaKiri BTW?

[pamithK]

Post like This (http://www.infolanka.com/miyuru_gee/old/o100.ram). So then it will open up the stream on real player without going to the site. BTW, that is a song library, and no other site can produce that much of old songs.

pamithK>> have you ever tried uploading a song like "preethi preethi" to ElaKiri BTW?


no i havent why? no thats not the point i'm making ayya..

still its a SL site ne and u need to hav real player to run it ..i dont..

they say u cant post links of SL sites but gomida himself puts one:shocked: (dont get me wrong i'm just trying to clarify how this is legal and others aren't)

[Wal Bada]

no i havent why? no thats not the point i'm making ayya..

still its a SL site ne and u need to hav real player to run it ..i dont..

they say u cant post links of SL sites but gomida himself puts one:shocked: (dont get me wrong i'm just trying to clarify how this is legal and others aren't)I don't know. But you can give it in a way that it will not open the site but play the song. We lack the tag in EK. Then it will be not much of a problem giving those links because, song will start playing when you open the thread. no clicks, no external links, fun!

[Gomida]

machan u r posting a sri lankan website here ne..so is it not spamming?:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

i mean isn't this enough to get banned?


I dunno macho but that link was in a previous old thread at EK
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47412&highlight=nanda+iraj

;) :D

[srilankan]

Prove it with proper evidence..Do a proper technical comparison here So we can see whether if it's really copied or not..
Then I'll accept it.



He don't have to prove it bcuz he didn't copy or steal it..The scratches might
go along with a similar tempo or any Other similar thing..But I can assure you that IT IS NOT FROM JESSIE'S SCRATCHS..

Even If he want to use the same scratch .. he would contact Colombia records and Request for proper permission before using it in his song without any hesitation..
Specially When it comes to a song in an album which he released under UNIVERSAL RECORDS.

Realasing an album under a label like universal records is far more complex than we see.. they have to pay big $$ for the label..followed by many regulations, conditions and terms...

relevent authorities in the company inspects the album before release..If there were such thing they'ld have noticed it. And they won't let the Track to be included in his album.Cuz it causes damage and legal problems to the company..Not the artist..
But this track IS IN HIS ALBUM..Passed every single inspection..
I hope That was clear enough for you..


why? senior or junior or wat'eva, copying WITHOUT PERMISSION cannot be accepted.



Totally agreed. she've copied another song without proper acknowledgment..
the song is called "cancion del mariachi" .. Played by a group called "Los Lobos"..Most popular as a soundtrack from the movie desperado.Now this is real copying...



exactly. agreed.

Also answer ma Q' ..

1. Do you believe (or do you know) that iraj's Mata sithanna ba is based on busta rhymes make it clap? Prove with proper evidence?

2. Can you do a proper comparison about the scratchs in the songs "a hetha" and "Pump me up?" And prove that the two scratchs are the same?

talk with facts.. Like I do..

PS : I'm not here to wash anyone's clothes..This is my sole opinion on this topic...Just talking about what's right and what's wrong..


Why are you so concerned about Iraj? I criticized Ashanti also. I know he copied it because i loved that original track and i got the ORIGINAL CD also. Plus i was a DJ and i know the beets of many songs.

Please listen to the original before you ask me to prove myself.

I didn't accept and wont accept anyone copying even senior artists.

If they did the scratch them self, at least they should know how to do a scratch in the video. That big guy with the turn table is moving the 'cross fader' about 3 levels. If you dont know about scratching dont talk about them. Unlike other things if two scratches to match, you need a lot of stuff to be the same.

I just dont have time to waste to prove to you that it was a copy. But i can make the scratch in iraj's track from pump me up scratch.

Prove it with proper evidence..Do a proper technical comparison here So we can see whether if it's really copied or not..
Then I'll accept it.

I dont care whether you accept it or not. specially i dont want to waste my time for nothing.