Ideal PC for 50-65k ??

[shanX]

Hi guys, am planning to buy a new pc. Budget is around 50-65k. So pls can u all suggest me the best configuration (with makes, models, info, prices ...etc) i could buy for that money. Bcoz am not much aware of latest techs, prices and stuff, so i've no idea. Am expecting to buy following stuff, not exactly these, roughly just for an idea.

- 2.8ghz P4 processor
- Intel chipset MBoard (model, no idea!!)
- 512mb or 768mb DDR2
- Nvidia 256mb PCI eexpress VGA (model, no idea!!)
- 160gb SATA Hard Disk
- 4.1 Woofer
- 15" Monitor, DVD-RW, Soundcard ....etc

ADVANCED THANKS !!!!

[Anusha]

RAM prices have skyrocketed, so you might like to go with just 512MB initially, and then upgrade when the prices come down. Normally, 512MB DDR2 is about Rs.7000 (Kinsgton) these days. Hopefully the motherboard you find would have 4 DDR2 slots. I bought 512MB DDR2 667 Kingston with 3 years warranty about 2 weeks ago for Rs.7500.

Video cards that perform well are very difficult to find to go under your budget, because they are too much overpriced in Sri Lanka. You might be able to buy a nVidia 7300 for less that 10000 if you look properly. EPSI had them for 10000, so usually if PC House has them, they should cost a lot cheaper than that. No point going for a Geforce6 card (unless it is a 6600 card which might perform better than a 7300, but to tell you the truth, I haven't compared them head to head.

Don't buy a sound card. The latest onboard sound is better than Creative Live series. I don't think you are looking at Audigy cards, are you?

DVDRWs are about 5000 or even less these days. I recommend buying Liteon or maybe Sony. Why "maybe" is because they are actually Benq drives and very good ones (probably the best). But by default, the features of Benq drives are disabled in those Sony drives (scrambled by Sony's firmware). If you crossflash a Sony with a Benq firmware (not just flash - you have to crossflash and there are several guides out there how to do that. Just google it), you will get all the benefits of Benq drives, but will void warranty, unless you can switch back to Sony's firmware before returning it to the reseller. :D Also, Benq have bought Liteon (or they have built an alliance) so newer Liteon drives are very good. Mitech have Liteon burners.

Latest hard drives are SATAII. Unity plaza has only Hitachi (with 2 year warranty) and Maxtor (with 1 year warranty). Hitachi drives are fast, but I went with Maxtor because they are superior to all the other drives when multitasking (multiple program launches at the same time etc.) 160GB should be less than Rs.8000 but not sure. Try not to buy a 2MB buffer version (if they are available at all). 160GB ones are usually equipped with 8MB cache (but my Samsung's has 2MB :(). I don't think they have the Samsung SATA drives, but they might. Samsung drives are very, very reliable. So are the Seagate and Western Digital drives.

Try to get at least a 945 chipset motherboard. Since you are not going for SLI (because only the premium class motherboards have two PCI-E 16x clots), try to find one with onboard graphics. Because if for some reason your video card fails, you will still be able to work with your onboard video no? Asus motherboards are very reliable, but every maker gives 3 year warranty so don't worry much about it. Go with the best spec motherboard. Newer Gigabyte boards are reliable than the old ones (about 3 years ago). Don't buy Intel motherboards though. They suck! Might be OK if you don't play with the default settings, but try to avoid them. I couldn't because all the other motherboards for my Core 2 Duo was over Rs.22000 and without onboard video. I'm still on onboard video by the way.

CPU is the biggest problem. Best option is to go with dual core CPUs and you will see that they will perform better in the future when more and more programs are multi threaded. But usually a 3.4GHz P4 would be about the same price as a P-D 2.8GHz or 3GHz and P4 will perform better in games because games are single threaded (at least for the moment). However, since you are going with a cheap nvidia card, you will see no difference, so P-D 2.8GHz would be the best. If the price difference is not much, go with 3GHz one.

I recommend buying a separate Power Supply because the one that comes with cheaper cases will give you lots of trouble, including equipment failures. Spend some money on a power supply. When you buy one, ask for server power supplies. They cost a lot (about 5000), but worth the money, because you don't want your CPU to fail because of a crappy Power Supply Unit, right? When choosing one, check for the amperage on +12V rail (you can find it on the sticker with the table on the side of the power supply unit). You should look for one which has at least 18A on the 12V rail (or if there are two rails, combination should be 18A or more).

So to sum it all up,
CPU = Pentium D 2.8GHz or 3GHz
Motherboard = Intel 945G chipset motherboard. Gigabyte and MSI are cheaper than Asus
RAM = 512MB DDR2 533MHz Kinsgton and 3 year warranty (don't go with any other brand even if they are a lot cheaper. they will fail eventually) Not having dual channel doesn't really make a huge impact. They are more important for onboard graphics.
Video card = Geforce 7300 256MB (of possible, try to find the GT model because they are a lot faster - about 2.5 times faster than the basic)
Hard Drive = Hitachi 160GB SATAII 8MB Cache, 7200RPM (it will work even if your motherboard only has SATAI)
DVDRW = Liteon 16x - not sure which models are available though (don't buy those 18x drives. they are too new and not much known about them).
Audio = onboard
Speakers = ask GTRZ (if he hasn't replied already)
Monitor =- whatever you like. low end model are all the same.
Case = whatever you want
Power Supply = whatever that suits what I said. EPSI had ASUS power supply units and they should be fine. Go for at least 400W, because higher that value, less strain is on the Power Supply and it runs cooler too.
Keyboard/Mouse = whatever you want :)

Hope this help(s/ed) you.

Cheers,
Anusha

[shanX]

Thnx Anusha, I was offline for a while ....

[Anusha]

:cool:

[Anusha]

Also, you might be able to overclock hell out of your CPU, if you get lucky with your components. Remember, never tell the reseller that you have overclocked because it voids warranty. Whenever you are taking back the pc in case of a failure, reset the bios. also remember that if you don't increase the voltages of your components (CPU mostly), overclocking will NOT damage them. It's the voltages that damage them.

[amila325]

Onna shanx wedipurath 1thiyenawa hebei anusha kiwa wage ube bajet1 madi wei wage ram mara gananne 512 DDR1 5years warrany man gaththa 7000 pissu hedenawa machan ganan ahaddi me uba dual core 1 daganinko ochchara awa danawanam 2.8 1 15000i wenne 800Mhz 1
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[shanX]

:yes: Thnx Anusha and amila325 :)

:sorry: Sorry for delayed reply, my inet connection is was out of order. Anusha Thnx a lot for all the info, It was very helpful, coz lately i was not much aware of harware stuff. Yes as amila325 said I think Anusha's config will overlap my budget, Ill try my best. :yes: I'm hoping to buy the folllowing config....

CPU = Pentium D 2.8GHz or 3GHz
Motherboard = Gigabyte / Asus motherboard with Intel 945G chipset
RAM = 512MB DDR2 533MHz Kinsgton
Video card = Geforce 6600 / 7300 G-Force256MB
Hard Drive = Seagate / Maxtor 160GB SATAII 8MB Cache, 7200RPM
DVDRW = Liteon / Sony 16x
Audio = onboard

Is this ok?
And pls tell me what's the different between the two SATA versions :confused: (Is data transfer rate) ?

[amila325]

:yes: Thnx Anusha and amila325 :)

CPU = Pentium D 2.8GHz or 3GHz
Motherboard = Gigabyte / Asus motherboard with Intel 945G chipset
RAM = 512MB DDR2 533MHz Kinsgton
Video card = Geforce 6600 / 7300 G-Force256MB
Hard Drive = Seagate / Maxtor 160GB SATAII 8MB Cache, 7200RPM
DVDRW = Liteon / Sony 16x
Audio = onboard

Is this ok?
And pls tell me what's the different between the two SATA versions :confused: (Is data transfer rate) ?

im not sure man me dawas wala wediya giye ne owa hoyanna exam handa but samahara vta ok wei 60kata
im not sure ganna puluwannam elama thama
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[shanX]

.....machan ganan ahaddi me uba dual core 1 daganinko ochchara awa danawanam 2.8 1 15000i wenne 800Mhz 1
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Ow ekanang eththa thama, Dual core hodai, latest technology, I'll try. Hebey ethakota mboard ekath venaswenavada, Dual core support karana board expensive da? P-Dual core 2.8ghz ekath P-4 3ghz ekath same price da?

"2.8 1 15000i wenne 800Mhz 1" mata thaerune nae :confused: !!!

[shanX]

I'm selling my :cool: P3 GT-R limited edition :cool: tommorrow to a buyer :D , And tomorrow I'll check this configuration on some shops and I'll try to buy, definitely I'll buy on Friday. I'll let you guys know in between :yes: . Thnx guys.

[amila325]

Ow ekanang eththa thama, Dual core hodai, latest technology, I'll try. Hebey ethakota mboard ekath venaswenavada, Dual core support karana board expensive da? P-Dual core 2.8ghz ekath P-4 3ghz ekath same price da?

"2.8 1 15000i wenne 800Mhz 1" mata thaerune nae :confused: !!!

tikak ganan machan ath worth machan 800kiwe FSB1 sory core 2 eke FSB 1 1066Mhz
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[GTRZ]

Super cool srilankan price guide and review from Anusha. :D
He is searching prices and reading reviews for his own computer now. So better ask any pre buy questions coz he is updated with all the latest srilankan prices, shops and new benchmarks. :yes: :D

I’ll add something to this too for mother boards if you cant afford Asus go for MSI. I am still not much happy with gigabyte products. Mitech in Unity Plaza selling MSI.

For LCDs get something which has lesser response time than 12ms. Mostly new LCDs doing like 8 or 4ms. If have money get a DVI model and a DVI cable too. It’ll give bit clear text on the screen and sharp images than analog models. But it’s not big difference, mostly depends on the person. About the brands for me best panels from Samsung.
Neat is the dealer in Unity Plaza.

I don’t recommend you to get CRT monitor if you are not working mainly with graphics and video which needs accurate colour reproduction. Anyway if you looking for one get something like NEC, IBM, Compaq, etc.. Always check the specs. As example if it’s 15” check what max refresh rate it can do at 1024 X 768 it should be minimum over 75Hz for normal use. For best it should be over 85Hz at 1280 X 768.
coz they support high resolutions with good refresh rates. Normally standard 15 monitors will not support high rates in good resolutions. so really big strain on your eyes if you increase the resolution.

Other thing after you buy separate power supply remember to buy the case without the default power supply. Normally cases are priced with the crappy power supply. Asking without it will save you like Rs1200/- from the case price. Try to choose a big case with extra fan or two.

Since the RAM prices are high you can go with 512 DDR2 for now, but don’t stop until you get over 1Gb coz now 1GB kinda standard for new applications. To get true power of your system you need around 2Gb of RAM.

Onboard sound will use your system resources, many say you can’t really feel it much. But for my personal experience I can feel noticeable system performance difference with onboard sound and separate sound. Anyway if you are not an audiophile or doing any music production or editing don’t invest on Creative Audigy or X-Fi series cards.
But for my experience X-Fi cards really have very noticeable quality difference than onboard audio.

About speakers in am not gonna write that much coz you not seems to be really serious about it. But don’t buy a cheap 4.1 system coz it has 4 speakers. Even some 2.1 systems are better than 7.1s So if you don’t know to how to check the specs then ask the dealer to make a demo and go with your flash drive and ask him to play your songs. If not they play their stuff so you can’t get really good idea of the sound quality. Always check the demo computer if they have changed graphic equalizer. It should be all normal.
Most those cheap speakers has marked like 1500Watts power etc.. Just don’t trust them. Always ask for the demo.

About mouse, Buy Logitech or Microsoft basic optical mouse.
It’ll be around Rs950/-
I have lot of bad experiences with cheap mouse. Mostly optical, they pure sucks!
Don’t buy stuff which is cheap and has beautiful light inside!!

For keyboard I think Microsoft or Logitech too coz you can type longer hours and feels nice on fingers. I hate A4tech keyboards coz when you type it feels like hitting solid. Anyway some like that too. I have found some cheap keyboards doing well some times. But you got to have great luck :lol:

[shanX]

R8 now I got it amila325, Thnx

[Anusha]

Intel 945 chipset supports Core 2 Duo, but some motherboards doesn't have 1066FSB. Some have. I don't know the exact models which supports them, but if you check the manuals before you buy, you will find out. The Gigabyte one they have at PC House didn't support Core 2 Duo at 1067FSB. You might be able to install one, but it will run at 8000FSB so a 1.86GHz CPU will work at 1.4GHz (200x7 instead of 266x7).

Are you sure that 2.8GHz Pentium D is 15000? Way too expensive. I bought my Core 2 Duo 1.86GHz for 23,500. However, I have to agree that there aren't any cheap motherboards for Core 2 Duo. Also GTR told me that now the Core 2 Duo prices have gone up. Lucky me, that I could find a Core 2 Duo for that price.

It seems like the whole system's price doesn't come under your budget. I recommend downgrading the CPU to a 2.66GHz Pentium D FSB533. I have seem people who have overclocked that CPU beyond 3.5GHz. Hopefully you will be able to do the same, if you have the will.

Cheaper motherboards come with only two DDR slots. I believe you will be hoping to keep the PC for at least 3 years. Then you might one day need to increase the amount of RAM to 2GB (for Vista at least). Then you have to look for a motherboard with 4 DDR2 slots.

Maybe you can add a video card later? Go with onboard video for the moment? But the thing is, you will not be able to play any of the current games, even the ones released last year or even before that. My motherboard has the best onboard graphics in the world, and when the final drivers are released, it will most probably supersede a Geforce 6600GT. Intel X3000 (which can be found on motherboards with 965G chipset) will also have hardware support for DX10, because the pixel processors can be programmed by software. So a driver upgrade will unlock all those features. Then it would give a good run for those budget cards. However, my motherboard cost me Rs.17,000 and the damn thing doesn't let me overclock my CPU :@

[shanX]

Man awesome, thnx GTRZ. Yep is true LCD's cool but not near my budget, Am almost testing my limits. But I'll try a 'over 85Hz at 1280 X 768' one.

"But for my personal experience I can feel noticeable system performance difference with onboard sound and separate sound"

Yep I too agree with that (experience)

[Anusha]

Super cool srilankan price guide and review from Anusha. :D
He is searching prices and reading reviews for his own computer now. So better ask any pre buy questions coz he is updated with all the latest srilankan prices, shops and new benchmarks. :yes: :D

I’ll add something to this too for mother boards if you cant afford Asus go for MSI. I am still not much happy with gigabyte products. Mitech in Unity Plaza selling MSI.

For LCDs get something which has lesser response time than 12ms. Mostly new LCDs doing like 8 or 4ms. If have money get a DVI model and a DVI cable too. It’ll give bit clear text on the screen and sharp images than analog models. But it’s not big difference, mostly depends on the person. About the brands for me best panels from Samsung.
Neat is the dealer in Unity Plaza.

I don’t recommend you to get CRT monitor if you are not working mainly with graphics and video which needs accurate colour reproduction. Anyway if you looking for one get something like NEC, IBM, Compaq, etc.. Always check the specs. As example if it’s 15” check what max refresh rate it can do at 1024 X 768 it should be minimum over 75Hz for normal use. For best it should be over 85Hz at 1280 X 768.
coz they support high resolutions with good refresh rates. Normally standard 15 monitors will not support high rates in good resolutions. so really big strain on your eyes if you increase the resolution.

Other thing after you buy separate power supply remember to buy the case without the default power supply. Normally cases are priced with the crappy power supply. Asking without it will save you like Rs1200/- from the case price. Try to choose a big case with extra fan or two.

Since the RAM prices are high you can go with 512 DDR2 for now, but don’t stop until you get over 1Gb coz now 1GB kinda standard for new applications. To get true power of your system you need around 2Gb of RAM.

Onboard sound will use your system resources, many say you can’t really feel it much. But for my personal experience I can feel noticeable system performance difference with onboard sound and separate sound. Anyway if you are not an audiophile or doing any music production or editing don’t invest on Creative Audigy or X-Fi series cards.
But for my experience X-Fi cards really have very noticeable quality difference than onboard audio.

About speakers in am not gonna write that much coz you not seems to be really serious about it. But don’t buy a cheap 4.1 system coz it has 4 speakers. Even some 2.1 systems are better than 7.1s So if you don’t know to how to check the specs then ask the dealer to make a demo and go with your flash drive and ask him to play your songs. If not they play their stuff so you can’t get really good idea of the sound quality. Always check the demo computer if they have changed graphic equalizer. It should be all normal.
Most those cheap speakers has marked like 1500Watts power etc.. Just don’t trust them. Always ask for the demo.

About mouse, Buy Logitech or Microsoft basic optical mouse.
It’ll be around Rs950/-
I have lot of bad experiences with cheap mouse. Mostly optical, they pure sucks!
Don’t buy stuff which is cheap and has beautiful light inside!!

For keyboard I think Microsoft or Logitech too coz you can type longer hours and feels nice on fingers. I hate A4tech keyboards coz when you type it feels like hitting solid. Anyway some like that too. I have found some cheap keyboards doing well some times. But you got to have great luck :lol:
I don't think he can afford an LCD or those Audigy cards. If he can, they are the better choices of course. I was trying to stick with his budget, but it seems even my estimations were a little over his 65000 mark. 80000 should be a good price to aim at.

Also, you should be lucky to find a place where they sell the case without the power supply. Most shops don't do that :( I had to buy the power supply and the case together, and hook up my old, better power supply on the new PC and move the newer power supply to the old PC (for dad).

Yeah, you should not go cheap on the keyboard/mouse/monitor because those are the parts you interact with. No point having a super fast computer if you can't even type a letter without your hands/fingers starting to ache. I used to buy cheap, and had to replace my mouse three times. Then I spent some money and bought a viewsonic optical mouse and it's very nice. However, I'm still having trouble with mouse pads. None work for me. Only half sheet papers (pasted on the desk) have done the job. The problem there is that you have to constantly replace them as they get brown very quickly (think you know what I mean ;))

[Anusha]

"But for my personal experience I can feel noticeable system performance difference with onboard sound and separate sound"

Yep I too agree with that (experience)

This is not THAT true anymore. Sure there is a performance hit. But the integrated audio chips are catching up with Audigy. Besides, dual core CPUs would be able to cope with those tasks well. However, the newer integrated chips are better than SB Live! cards, or even the basic Audigy 1 cards.

Still, having a super-duper sound card will bring the need of a ultra high-end speaker system. Otherwise, it's just like equipping a Core 2 Duo X6800 with only 256MB DDRII 400 Value RAM :D US$920 for the CPU, US$30 for RAM :lol:

[GTRZ]

Well machan they may sound better than normal SB live series but will use system resources. Anyway it'll be less noticeable when CPUs get more powerful. Anyway i think it’s still noticeable in this system too. But you can ignore it if you not going after lot of power. :yes:

I am not asking to buy good sound card it’s not worthy for your money in this situation. But you don’t need high end speakers to feel the difference.
As example my friend had satellite speakers which had only 1 driver. So it’s like all range driver mostly responding to high-mid range. But changing to X-Fi card i can hear clear sounds from single driver too. Its not like expansive speakers but really noticeable sound improvement. I am not saying its worthy to buy but it can show improvement in your crappy Rs 500/- speaker pair too.

[sld]

Well machan they may sound better than normal SB live series but will use system resources. Anyway it'll be less noticeable when CPUs get more powerful. Anyway i think it’s still noticeable in this system too. But you can ignore it if you not going after lot of power. :yes:

I am not asking to buy good sound card it’s not worthy for your money in this situation. But you don’t need high end speakers to feel the difference.
As example my friend had satellite speakers which had only 1 driver. So it’s like all range driver mostly responding to high-mid range. But changing to X-Fi card i can hear clear sounds from single driver too. Its not like expansive speakers but really noticeable sound improvement. I am not saying its worthy to buy but it can show improvement in your crappy Rs 500/- speaker pair too.

Still machan doesn't it depend on the persons ears... I have exceptional hearing (now I'm losing it a bit because of shooting :( ) so I have very high end equipment including a bose system for my PC. I love it and can tell the difference if a cable is picking up RF but I have friends who can't tell the difference between that and the PC speaker :angry: it pisses me off to no end but they can't really tell the difference much less justify the price difference.
So I really beleive the best speakers and the sound card is what sounds good to the individual person.....
OK that's my 2cents

[sld]

ShanX all I can do is wish you the best because if i tell you the stuff that's available here and the low prices.... you'll want to move :lol: :lol:

[Anusha]

ShanX all I can do is wish you the best because if i tell you the stuff that's available here and the low prices.... you'll want to move :lol: :lol:

You can buy a good PC for less money from USA. But life in USA is very expensive, right?

[sld]

You can buy a good PC for less money from USA. But life in USA is very expensive, right?

It was a joke machan... you are right cost of living in US is high but the income is high too.So it evens out.
The only problem in SL is all the taxes driving prices up... OH well!!! :D

[Anusha]

Yeah...taxes :(

[sakala]

:yes: :yes: :yes: :cool: :cool: :cool:

[sld]

Yeah...taxes :(

Yeah machan I just checked the car prices in SL and it's like 3 times more with taxes.... that sucks :(

[Anusha]

Yeah I know. Have to buy a Micro Car :D:D:D

[shanX]

I'm selling the old pc today, I'll catch up with u all on the new one.....

CPU = Pentium D 2.8GHz or P IV 3GHz
Motherboard = Gigabyte or Asus motherboard with Intel 945G chipset
RAM = 512MB DDR2 533MHz Kinsgton
Video card = Geforce 6600or 7300 G-Force 256MB PCI Express
Hard Drive = Seagate or Maxtor 120GB SATAII 8MB Cache, 7200RPM
DVDRW = Liteon or Sony 16x
Audio = onboard

I'll try the above, I've to buy it here in Kandy, So i hope they might hav these stuff here. Thnx everyone, I'll try my best!!

[Anusha]

I believe the prices would be mre expensive in Kandy :(
Anyway, good luck with your new PC. Let us know how things work out, ok?

[shanX]

I believe the prices would be mre expensive in Kandy :(
Anyway, good luck with your new PC. Let us know how things work out, ok?

Right Thanks a lot for the support.

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[GTRZ]

Machan Anusha when I was buying a case for my friend like few months ago, I checked prices from 4 shops in Unity, they all happy to sell the case without the power supply. I got the case around Rs 2000/- or even lesser than that. Strange you say that Unity ppl refused to sell without the power supply.

Well guys why we cant put 667 DDR2 in this system? I don’t know the prices, its lot expensive than 533?

Still machan doesn't it depend on the persons ears... I have exceptional hearing (now I'm losing it a bit because of shooting :( ) so I have very high end equipment including a bose system for my PC. I love it and can tell the difference if a cable is picking up RF but I have friends who can't tell the difference between that and the PC speaker :angry: it pisses me off to no end but they can't really tell the difference much less justify the price difference.
So I really beleive the best speakers and the sound card is what sounds good to the individual person.....
OK that's my 2cents


Machan I’m not talking about a slight improvement which is only obvious in superior ears. It’s something normally every can feel. But the amount will depend on the person.

No offence but have to tell you machan Bose systems are no good! They do lot of advertising saying “Better Sound through Research” but they make drivers from cheap materials and paper cones. You can see them if you remove the covers of your system.

The thing is Bose systems create over sweetened mid ranges which you can hear big difference than other systems. But that’s artificial mid range amplification and modification. Bose do poor when it comes to low and high frequencies. I have only checked few Bose systems but many audio specialists say they fail to reproduce accurate sounds. Check the manual of your system and see what frequency range your system supports. And whatz the signal to noise ratio. From the systems I checked they hide those information. Some ppl say “No highs, No lows Should be a Bose!”

[sld]

Machan Anusha when I was buying a case for my friend like few months ago, I checked prices from 4 shops in Unity, they all happy to sell the case without the power supply. I got the case around Rs 2000/- or even lesser than that. Strange you say that Unity ppl refused to sell without the power supply.

Well guys why we cant put 667 DDR2 in this system? I don’t know the prices, its lot expensive than 533?




Machan I’m not talking about a slight improvement which is only obvious in superior ears. It’s something normally every can feel. But the amount will depend on the person.

No offence but have to tell you machan Bose systems are no good! They do lot of advertising saying “Better Sound through Research” but they make drivers from cheap materials and paper cones. You can see them if you remove the covers of your system.

The thing is Bose systems create over sweetened mid ranges which you can hear big difference than other systems. But that’s artificial mid range amplification and modification. Bose do poor when it comes to low and high frequencies. I have only checked few Bose systems but many audio specialists say they fail to reproduce accurate sounds. Check the manual of your system and see what frequency range your system supports. And whatz the signal to noise ratio. From the systems I checked they hide those information. Some ppl say “No highs, No lows Should be a Bose!”

Oh I completely agree about Bose being a crummy product. I have it because it's compact. Then I got a friend of mine to redo the EQ and added a velodyne sub for lows. I know it's not the best system but it's the best bang for the buck for computer and I won the system in a contest when I used to sell audio equipment. Still for the computer you have to agree it's pretty decent than most of the computer speakers.
Either way Dr. Bose has the world sold on the name and he's laughing all the way to the bank. Damn those indians are smart :lol: :lol: :lol:
My music system has Vandersteen speakers which are hand made. Actually they are from my dad. I can't afford them.

[GTRZ]

haha yeah bro custom speakers are the best. Since you in US you can find super quality drivers and you can find great quality wood and padding. If you get the measurements right. You can really come near to super quality speaker systems which will cost 1000z of $$

[Anusha]

haha yeah bro custom speakers are the best. Since you in US you can find super quality drivers and you can find great quality wood and padding. If you get the measurements right. You can really come near to super quality speaker systems which will cost 1000z of $$

Then I should start researching in them and build myself a nice speaker set :yes:

Machan Anusha when I was buying a case for my friend like few months ago, I checked prices from 4 shops in Unity, they all happy to sell the case without the power supply. I got the case around Rs 2000/- or even lesser than that. Strange you say that Unity ppl refused to sell without the power supply.

Maybe you are right. But I was talking about shops that had cases that appealed to me. A lot of shops had ugly cases. I bought a Mercury in the end. It's simple and nice. Besides, I needed a power supply to use in the old PC because I moved its PSU to the new one. It's a 20-pin power connector, but luckily, the motherboard accepted it.

Well guys why we cant put 667 DDR2 in this system? I don’t know the prices, its lot expensive than 533?

Unless you are overclocking, there is hardly any difference between 533 and 667 and even 800 on Intel systems. There is, but it's negligible. It will take 100 seconds to do something on a system with 533MHz RAM and 98 seconds to do the same in 667MHz RAM. Why I said 533MHz is mainly because it's easy to find as well as some people might ask a premium price for high speed RAM.

Also onboard graphics will benefit a lot from higher bandwidth RAM, but in this case, he's gonna use a PCI-E card no?

AMD on the other hand need fast RAM.

[shanX]

--- sorry 4 sms language postin frm a 4n ---

jus got price list frm a shop:
P-D 2.8g=17k
Asus
-P5PLD2 board (945pl,800fsb)=12k
-Gforce 7300gs 256mb pci-e=10k
-Dvdrw=5k*
-300w casing=2k
Kngtn 512 DDR2 533mhz=6.5k
Maxtr 160gb sata 2mb=10k^
ViwSonc 15"=10k^
Soundblstr 5.1=2.5k*
Logi Key+mouse=1.5k
*-optional
^-shud chk on othr shops 4 prices or prodcts

almost 70k... Is it ok??
z cpu+board ok?
All these just off one shop
2 shops left.

[Anusha]

HDD price is too much. My 320GB 16MB Cache, SATAII, 7200RPM, NCQ drive only cost me 13,500.

Just checked a review on 7300GS. Seems like ATI x1300 (basic one) is faster than 7300GS (not GT). 7300GS is only marginally faster than 6200. Couldn't you find a 660o class video card? You will be extremely happy with a faster video card, rather than a fast CPU. Don't buy the sound card. Use that money for the video card. Soundblaster Live is no better than onboard sound. I told you. It's just a waste of money and a PCI slot.

Also remember that, there is not performance gain at all with 256MB if you buy a 7300GS. More RAM on lower models is just a marketing hype. However, 256MB or even 512MB on high or very high-end models make a difference, because they can handle games at 1600x1200 with 4x AA and 8x AF with max graphics settings. Only at those settings will 256MB (more specifically 512MB) will come into play. Otherwise, 7300GS 128MB and 256MB will not offer differed performances.

[Anusha]

This is the motherboard you were talking about right?
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=11&l3=244&model=941&modelmenu=2

It only supports 2GB RAM, so you can have 4 512MB RAMs one day. :)

[shanX]

320gb is 2 much 4 me. I thnk i cud find a 120gb 4 6k. Z t ok?
yep i'll rconsidr d soundcard.
6600gt i thnk avlbl 4 15k. Z t ok?
7300gs i thnk avlbl 4 8k. Z t ok?
Monitr,ram,hdd price m8 b lesser than that @ Pch i'll try

and pls tell me cpu,mboard prices ok?
AND THANKS A LOT GUYS SPECIALLY ANUSHA

[pls dont mind short words, hv 2 browse thru phone]

[Anusha]

6600GT for 15000 is OK considering Sri Lankan prices. It will be a lot (i mean, a lot - about 2.5-3 times) faster than a 7300GS, even if it has 128MB RAM (is it a 256MB one?) 6600GT (remember it's the GT model, not the non-GT) will have similar performance to a 7600GS. So 15000 is justified.
See a comparison here: http://xtreview.com/review143.htm

Why I mentioned about the 320GB was just to show that 10000 was too much for 160GB; not to tell you to buy that :)

A friend told me that you can get a 200GB for about 8000 at Unity Plaza. Don't ever think that high capacity is not necessary. You will eventually run out of space on any drive.

Not really sure about CPU and motherboard prices. I was checking only AthlonX2 systems, but finally bought a Core 2 Duo because I got lucky with the CPU (Rs.23,500, whereas some shops still sell it at Rs.29,000). I wasn't gonna buy a Pentium-D system even if the CPUs were available for less than 10,000. I wanted a cool, lower power PC because my PC is working whenever I'm at home (electricity bill :D).

[shanX]

Yep, i askd, C2D is 28k and i agree bout d hd thing. Thnx 4 d info,i'll try 2 visit Unity next week.

6600gt am not sure gt or gs and 256 or 128?

Is the Pentium-D power consuming? Z P4 better than D?

[Anusha]

Of course P4 consumes less energy than P-D. But Pentium-D has two cores, and it doesn't use two times the power. It uses about 30% more power than a P4 with same clock speed. And this power is only applicable when you are utilizing both cores at 100%. Otherwise it's not a big deal. But remember, try to get a case with a lot of ventilation. By this I don't mean hook up lots of fans. Too much fans will make too much air pressure inside the case and it's worse than having no fans. Typically, air should come in from the front and go out from the higher back. Exhaust fans are more important than front intake fans because the vacuum effect of the exhaust fans will draw air into the case from the vents. Add front intake fans to keep your HDDs cool (two birds by one stone :)).

It's either 6600 or 6600GT. There wasn't any other model. So if there's any hint of a "G", it's the GT. Anyway, if you are going for the 6600 (non-GT), i think go for the 7300GS. Both give pretty much the same performance. 6600 is a bit fast, but unless the price difference is Rs.1000 or less, don't buy the 6600 non-GT model.

[Novindu]

hmmmm.... learnt a lot from dis convo guys.......... thx a lot for all:D:D:D

[Anusha]

Dude, hold off if you haven't bought that PC yet. PC Parnet has Sapphire X800GTO 256MB video card for Rs.9,500 and it's about 1.5-2 times faster than a 6600GT. Buy that one, and you can play NFS Carbon at maximum quality levels. I just bought that card today, because it was very cheap.

[Novindu]

Dude, hold off if you haven't bought that PC yet. PC Parnet has Sapphire X800GTO 256MB video card for Rs.9,500 and it's about 1.5-2 times faster than a 6600GT. Buy that one, and you can play NFS Carbon at maximum quality levels. I just bought that card today, because it was very cheap.
ammo really??? wow.. 2 bad i dun have dat much mny deese days:(:(:(

[shanX]

Hi, I hav'nt brought the pc yet. I searchd around Unity, but couldn't find a good VGA. 6600 is there, not gt, its 10k. Is it ok? Or is there's any good vga deals anywhere? Or should I buy the Sapphire one?

I found the Pentium D 2.8ghz for 14k and a core 2 duo supporting Gigabyte motherboard (GA945G-M) for 13k. Is it ok?

I found a 250gb Maxtor with 1 yr warranty for 9.5k @ unity.

[Anusha]

Buy that Sapphire X800GTO. It's way faster than a 6600, even a 6600GT. And only Rs.9,500. I believe they were not mistaken :). If you like adventures, you can have more performance if you enable the disabled pipelines and overclock it. It's up to you.

I guess the prices of the other components are fine. Isn't that motherboard a GA-945GM-S2? Looks OK, and 4 DDR2 ports too.

[shanX]

Hi guys, i still havnt bought the pc. I got the following quot frm a shop

P D820 2.8g
Gigabyte GA-945GM-S2 mboard
512mb ddr2
Hitachi 250gb sata
Ati Radeon x800 Gto
Sony Dvd-Rw
Philips 17" monitor

this is the best config i found and its 74k, is it worth it?

Novindu,Anusha, Is Sapphire Radeon x800 Gto fine, shud i buy it? Hwz it on Carbon? Coz am almost buying d pc for it.

[Anusha]

X800GTO at stock speeds would run at 1280x960 resolution with everything set to maximum quality, except AA and AF. To enable them and have decent performance you might need to overclock you card. I don't think the CPU will limit you to a lower level.

Yes, it's the Sapphire X800GTO. It comes in a red box sized about 6"x8".

Don't buy Philips monitors. Buy a Samsung. Philips monitors have or had a problem where the display cable gets damaged internally after few years, and PC Partner will not replace it even if u have warranty saying that's physical damage. Remember, most shops at Unity are affiliated with PC Partner.

BTW, what's the model of that DVDRW? Is it DRU-820A or something newer? Just asking. No big deal :)

What's the shop btw? PM me if you don't wanna say it to all.

[shanX]

Anusha pm'd u

dvdrw model not sure

[Novindu]

Hi guys, i still havnt bought the pc. I got the following quot frm a shop

P D820 2.8g
Gigabyte GA-945GM-S2 mboard
512mb ddr2
Hitachi 250gb sata
Ati Radeon x800 Gto
Sony Dvd-Rw
Philips 17" monitor

this is the best config i found and its 74k, is it worth it?

Novindu,Anusha, Is Sapphire Radeon x800 Gto fine, shud i buy it? Hwz it on Carbon? Coz am almost buying d pc for it.
mahan an usha is best for da vga ... so comments abi it bit abt da monitor is it a flat screen 1????
b'coz u can buy a flat screen 17" monitor from unity for abt 12,500/- just chk macho i cant rememba da shop:):):)

[shanX]

hi Novindu, yes, its a flat one and its 12k

tell me about the vga, how it is on Carbon

[Anusha]

I thought i told you how it (X800GTO card) performs with NFS Carbon. It works fine at 1280x960 with full details. Not sure if you can get good frame rates with antialiasing and anisotropic filtering turned on. Remember you can't apply motion blur with that card. But there is no point going for a slower nVidia card which can apply motion blur because even a 7600GT can't run as smooth as a X800GTO in NFS Carbon.

However, since I have modded my card to almost an X850XT (Core/Memory at 520MHz/530MHz compared to 520MHz/540MHz of X850XT with all 16 pipelines unlocked) which is about 60%-80% more powerful than the X800GTO at stock speeds (400MHz/490MHz with only 12 pipelines), now I can play NFS Carbon at 1600x1200 and 2X (or 4X? can't remember) antialiasing and level of anisotropic filtering the game applies still having the frame rates around 25-45. (that's a long sentence :lol:)

About the monitor... I believe you should check the monitor specifications a bit before buying one. Normally, the monitors that can be found for Rs.12,000 range come with a maximum resolution of 1280x960 or 1280x1024. That resolution is fine. But the problem is that most monitors can't run at a higher refresh rate than 60Hz at those resolutions. I have a Prolink 775CA which has a maximum resolution of 1600x1200 with 60Hz. But it can work at 1280x960 at 75Hz, so I'm ok. I can't work with refresh rates less than 70Hz. I start to see monitor flickering at 60Hz etc. You might not have that problem. But if you do, check the specs first and try to buy a monitor which gives 70Hz+ at 1280x960 resolution. Even if you don't have that problem, it's still better to buy a monitor with higher refresh rate because it's good for your eyes (less strain on the eyes).

On a side note, don't buy that Prolink monitor even if the specs are good. It's a real pain in the ass. It has started to give lots of problems. Have to get it replaced. In fact, stay away from Prolink or any other brand which doesn't have a very good reputation in the field of monitors. Even if you spend few thousand rupees more, buy a good monitor because in the end, there is no point having a super fast computer if you can't work on it for more than few minutes.

Same applies to mouse and keyboard. People don't pay much attention to them, but they are the most important components because those are the direct forms of interaction with the computer. Buy a good Logitec keyboard and mouse. Don't buy cheap stuff, even if they only ask Rs.500 for both together. PS2 is fine because you can't use PS2 ports for anything else. It will save the USB ports for external devices. I don't see them listed in your list of components so I believe you haven't paid much attention to them either. Try to test few keyboards and mice before you buy. There are some fancy keyboards which will cost more, but might not perform as easy as the cheapest Logitec keyboard. Don't be fooled by the looks and price as well; especially Sri Lankan prices :)

[shanX]

Yes, i also need atleast 72 Hz, so i askd them about all things u have told, but the sales guy didnt know. But i'll find those facts when i buy. Anyway i'll buy this system tomorrow or monday. So i might need your guidance to unlock those pipelines on the vga, thnx for the info.

[Anusha]

:Hehe:. I can help you, but you will have to run thorough tests to see if it's fit to be converted to a X850XT.

And I don't bare any responsibility if you crew something up. I can assure if you do it CORRECTLY, nothing will go wrong. It's a choice you have to make. Still, if you run the card just with overclocking (not unlocking the pipelines), you will still get some tangible performance gain and nothing can go wrong if you opt for that choice.

[Anusha]

Forgot one thing. The best thing to do is write down the model number and check it up on the web. Those sales people don't know a thing.

[shanX]

Right ok. But the vga is the same one as yours Sapphire Ati X800 GTO.

Anyway thanks.

[Novindu]

hi Novindu, yes, its a flat one and its 12k

tell me about the vga, how it is on Carbon
ok gr8 machoo..:):)
abt da vga anusha has given a gud reveiw;););)

[Anusha]

Right ok. But the vga is the same one as yours Sapphire Ati X800 GTO.

Anyway thanks.

Just because you are buying the same video card doesn't mean you will get the same overclocking potential. Yours might overclock poorly or overclock better than mine. But, if it's the exact same model as mine, you should be able to unlock it. We can check whether it's the exact model using ATITool.

Why I said that it's risky is because an incorrect BIOS flash can make your video card virtually DEAD!!! What if the power fails during the flashing process? What if you make the wrong choice because your eyes went blur? :lol:. So it's all up to you to see whether you are up for the challenge. But I can assure you, it is well rewarding in the end (if everything goes according to the plan).

Anyway, your first aim was to buy a Geforce 6600GT no? I can assure you that this card is faster than that at stock speeds, at a lower price. So your primary objective is solved. It's all up to you whether you go ahead and make full use of this rare opportunity.

[shanX]

ok i'll buy it, but am a little affectionate of Nvidia Gforces. This time i'll switch to Ati.

[Anusha]

I haven't used an nVidia card so far in my life :D.
I have to confess that if the prices were closer to USA prices AND that if the geforce 7600gt was available, i would have gone with it.
However, I found out today that X850XT isn't that slow at very high resolutions and quality levels compared to even a 7800GT. There are instances even where the X850XT wins. But not most of the times. This is at 1600x1200 with 4X AA and 8X AF. So if you can make that X800GTO to almost an X850XT, you are one lucky bastard, just like me. :lol:

[shanX]

but u shud try Nvidia to see realistic 3d & new technologies. And Ati for perfomance not much looks, is my experience. If u have used a Nvidia u wont switch over unless u face an inavailability. Pm'd u Anusha.

[Anusha]

You kidding? ATI image quality had been superior to nVidia's from the beginning. Only ATI's current BUDGET and MID-RANGE cards perform badly compared to nVidia's offerings. Mainstream and enthusiast level cards are won by ATI. Of course now nVidia has the Geforce 8800 which is the performance king.

[shanX]

but high end cards shudnt b countd, mid and low ones are the most used ones. Hw much 8800 m8 b?

[Anusha]

Don't ask. No point. Surely more than all your other components combined :D

[Anusha]

but high end cards shudnt b countd, mid and low ones are the most used ones.

In Sri Lanka, maybe. But normally, the highend video cards from previous generation are comparable in performance to mid range cards from a new generation. Sometimes the previous generation card could be better. But feature wise, the new generation cards ARE or more appropriately, SHOULD BE superior to even the highest end cards from previous generation. Great example is an X850XT. It's faster than a X1650XT and Geforce 7600GT, but doesn't support Shader Model 3.0. However, you can't say the same about Geforce 6800Ultra. It's almost always slower than a 7600GT. So even in that perspective, ATI is still better.

The biggest and only drawback in ATI cards is the high power consumption. An X1950XTX consumes more power than the dual GPU Geforce 7950GX2. But people who buy the fastest systems usually don't care about the power consumption. It's the people who have a budget that are worried about the power consumption.

[shanX]

yep, i agree. Wtevr we're nt allowed to use latest products n technologies, coz of the taxes created by silly idiots. So mid range vga's of previous generations are high range for us. 6600 is 12k, its Gt is 16k, 256mb ones. 7300gs is 16k. Isnt there a cheap shipping method available, so that we could buy stuff online.

[Anusha]

If you dump the packaging, it would be cheaper to import :D
OMG! 7300gs is 16k???? That's f***ing slower than a 6600.

[shanX]

thats wt i say.

And i saw the 7600gs @ Asus center, its 22k.

I went to buy d pc today, but they didnt hav the motherboard, so i'll hav to wait till friday.

[Anusha]

That's unlucky :(

7600GS for Rs.22,000 is damn expensive bro. That's more that 100% the price at which it retails in USA. The last time I checked, EPSI at MC had 7600GS for Rs.17,000 and 7600GT was Rs.25,000. And this is about 2 months ago.

7600GS is almost the same speed as a stock X800GTO. But remember, you can slip in 60-70% more juice out of the X800GTO.

Anyway, it's all up to you. You decide what you are gonna buy and if the price is ok with you. I never thought you would spend more than Rs.15,000 on the vidoe card. I've presented you with all the details you need to buy a mid-range PC. 3

Cheers, and good luck with the motherboard.

[shanX]

no, no i didnt say i'll buy 7300gs. I just told its price. I'll buy the x800.

Thnx a lot Anusha for all the info, it was very helpful, i cant research the web even, coz i dont hv a pc, hd to use d phone & not much idea of LK prices. I've askd them 2 brng d mboard, aftr that i'll buy d config i postd last tym. I'll post everything after buying.

[Anusha]

Cheers

[shanX]

Hi guys,

Got the machine today.

P-D 2.8Ghz
Gigabyte Ga-945Gm-S2
Kingston 512mb -533mhz
Philips 107s RF monitor
Sony DRU-820A Dvd-Rw
Sony Dvd-Rom
Hitachi 160Gb with NCQ,16mb cache
Modem (us robotics, hav to find drivers)
450w casing

for 63k!
shud buy a vga, searchin for a 256mb 6600GT.
Guys, is this system ok?

Thanks a lot everyone for all the guidance and support.

[Anusha]

Why did you buy a DVD ROM?
And why did you buy a Philips monitor?

[Novindu]

Why did you buy a DVD ROM?
And why did you buy a Philips monitor?
y?? whats wrong with da monitor???:confused:

[Anusha]

I told him not to buy a Philips.

[shanX]

Hi, Had to buy a Philips, coz there were only Viewsonics (searchd, but no samsungs), i dont like em much. Brought a dvd rom to avoid issues with dvd rw. Searching for a vga.

[Novindu]

I told him not to buy a Philips.
but whats da reason???

[Anusha]

They had a problem with the vga cable. When it gets bent over the time, the internal wires get damaged and the colours aren't properly shown.Who thing turns yellow. PC House don't replace it saying it's physical damage. :confused::angry:

I believe you would have been better off with the ViewSonic.

[Novindu]

They had a problem with the vga cable. When it gets bent over the time, the internal wires get damaged and the colours aren't properly shown.Who thing turns yellow. PC House don't replace it saying it's physical damage. :confused::angry:

I believe you would have been better off with the ViewSonic.
oh yeah im havin dat prob now.....but not every time but once in a while:lol::lol:

[Anusha]

It's the VGA cable that's broken. If you move it, the screen will turn yellow and back normal. It gets worse to a point where you have to replace the cable.

[shanX]

Hi, today only I managed to get into internet with my new system, It is awesome. I installed Carbon, crashes might be bcoz of onboard vga. But I had Underground 2 on my pc. It works smoothly on Hi-mid range settings. Should install Mostwanted.

Anusha as u told onboard sounds are far ahead, if we consider price per perfomance ratio. I have Creative 2.1 speakers, which i've been using on my earlier system with some cheap sound card. Now i'm feeling a big difference with the new onboard sounds.

Still I havn't found a vga. Tryd EPSI, no 6600Gt there, 6600 is there for 16k, 7300GS for 10k, 7600GS for 20k !!!

[Anusha]

Too bad hey. Maybe you'll have to with the 7300GS for the moment. 10k is too much considering what i paid for mine.

Can you list out all the pci-e video cards (128MB RAM or more - all of them) at pc house etc. and let me know? Maybe there could be a surprise card somewhere. You never know.

[shanX]

Too bad hey. Maybe you'll have to with the 7300GS for the moment. 10k is too much considering what i paid for mine.

Can you list out all the pci-e video cards (128MB RAM or more - all of them) at pc house etc. and let me know? Maybe there could be a surprise card somewhere. You never know.

Man, u wont believe, But Pc House only had 6200 and 6600 with them (@ Unity) and some ATI's (I just askd the price of X800 GTO), checked last week. And the Kandy branch only has X300 for 12k, X550 for 16k or something. EPSI had some ATI's, I didnt ask prices of all cards. 6600GT is out of stock @ EPSI, they say they wont bring 6 series cards anymore. I really miss a vga, bcoz of Carbon, Is 6600 ok?

[shanX]

I didnt ask prices of 128mb ones much, but EPSI has 128mb 6600 (LE) for 12k !!!

[Novindu]

It's the VGA cable that's broken. If you move it, the screen will turn yellow and back normal. It gets worse to a point where you have to replace the cable.
yeah dats what happenin... its bent from da begening of da vga out:(:(

[Anusha]

Everyone gets stuck when it comes to the video card. Even in my old PC, I had to wait for 4 months to buy a video card. But the video card I bought for the PC was an amazing card. Radeon 9700Pro, for Rs.35,000!!! This was when it was selling for around US$260-300. Price wise, it was OK. Expensive, but for the performance it delivered, it was fine. (This was a present from my grand father for me passing A/Ls with 3 A's) This was the third fastest card by then, pretty much like the X1900XT now. But the damn thing burnt after about 1.5 years!!! You wouldn't know how bad I felt.

Then I had to buy a 9600Pro, which gave about 60% of speed of the old card. I felt so terrible that I almost gave up gaming. I was gonna get a 6600 (non pro) but there weren't any AGP cards. 9600Pro was the only AGP card. I bought it for 13,500 about two years ago. (at that time, 6600 non pro pci-e was Rs.22,000 and delivered pretty much the same performance as the 9700Pro)

Now this X800GTO card was a dream come true. Maybe a little patience will be rewarded. Too bad ATI's DX10 cards won't be released for a while (at least till January end). Then cards like X1600 will become cheaper and affordable.

[shanX]

Everyone gets stuck when it comes to the video card.

Yep, I agree

And everyone couldn't afford 3A's like you, Kool, man.

[Anusha]

Yep, I agree

And everyone couldn't afford 3A's like you, Kool, man.

:)

[Novindu]

Yep, I agree

And everyone couldn't afford 3A's like you, Kool, man.
now dats true:yes::yes:

[mlakmal]

Yep, I agree

And everyone couldn't afford 3A's like you, Kool, man.

ehema unaanan mata man aaye naa niyama fun ekak gannawa....

man danna ekek innawa eeka india yanna ona kiwuwane ammala mokakda oona ahuwama maan gihin aawa ;) anush u may knw him too hes in moratuwa also

[Anusha]

I don't think so. :lol:

[shanX]

At last bought a vga. Galaxy 7600GS 512mb @ 17k.
So as u guys told, it all summed up @ 75-80Ks.

Thanks to Elakiri.com members for the support. :) :) :)

[Anusha]

Cheers...
Tell us how good it is, in NFSC etc. and your overclocking adventures, if you dare do that. ;)

[shanX]

max overclock is core-460mhz, mem-800mhz. But I used the inbuilt feature to oc in the nvidia display control panel.

[shanX]

In NFSC, I just played some quick races, everything blurs past. But in Mostwanted Its awesome man.

[Anusha]

So the memory didn't overclock at all? 800MHz is the default right?

Maybe you should turn off mortion blur in NFSC. Most people don't like how EA have implemented it in NFSC.

BTW, you ready to beat my times on the sprint races in NFSC? :lol:

[shanX]

So the memory didn't overclock at all? 800MHz is the default right?

Maybe you should turn off mortion blur in NFSC. Most people don't like how EA have implemented it in NFSC.

BTW, you ready to beat my times on the sprint races in NFSC? :lol:

Oh its a pleasure to beat u... hold on i just tried quick races on my pc, man!!
Yes I also think motion blur is used improperly.

Memory doesnt move past 800 :angry: , rock solid i think :( , yes its the default. At first it showed up as 600 or something :angry: , i had oc a little to get the chipset default, Temperature is shown on the cpanel and there is an feature that slows down the core at extreme tempratures, its turned on always. And there's an option to alert us on extreme temperature. I havnt even installed new drivers yet, i hav them...

[shanX]

Do u think, I shud use someother s/w to oc, suggest me some freeware!

[Anusha]

RivaTuner is the best for nVidia cards. But since you have no fan on the card, you might be better off with a mild overclock - the overclock the driver suggests.

ATITool, which is the best for ATI cards, have a feature which finds the maximum stable/safe core and memory clock speeds. Unless RivaTuner has something like that, you should stick with the driver's overclocker.

[Anusha]

Damn I just saw your PM. So it has a fan.

Then try RivaTuner. Check if it has a artifact scanner before you do any overclocking.

[shanX]

stable/safe oc according to the tool on driver cpanel is 460/800mhz

[Anusha]

If the memory runs at 266MHz (or 533MHz) by default, then 800MHz isn't bad at all.

[shanX]

Now am planning to use @ 450/760, its ok i think.

But i still havnt tried NFSC after oc

[Anusha]

Why did you reduce the overclock? If the driver gave those clocks are the maximum, I think they are perfectly safe clock speeds.

[shanX]

No I thought it might be safe!! But i was wrong temp doesnt move than 57-60 celcius, core slow down threshold is 127 C.

[shanX]

Yes, its true Anusha. I think wt i did earlier was just an unlock, not an overclock....

Just downloaded Riva Tuner, I'll try it after installing the new driver hold on I'll post the results.

[Anusha]

What do you mean by "unlock"?

7600 series is the most energy efficient graphics cards. (efficient = performance per watt)

My GPU goes up to 80C at full load, but that is perfectly safe, unlike CPUs.

[Anusha]

Anyway, look how your 50-65k PC ended up being. :lol: More than Rs.15,000 expensive.

Another thing I forgot to mention. You think 512MB is too low? :lol: 1GB is too low for me.

[shanX]

I think inbuilt tool is ok than Riva. I cudnt change anything with it. Mostwanted rocks with the new driver. I think it is graphically rich like hdr and all, but carbon is like cartoon compared to it.

[ifadh132]

hmmm iz it a gud bargain???

[Anusha]

I think inbuilt tool is ok than Riva. I cudnt change anything with it. Mostwanted rocks with the new driver. I think it is graphically rich like hdr and all, but carbon is like cartoon compared to it.

True. Then lets play Most Wanted together :lol:

[Anusha]

hmmm iz it a gud bargain???

Are you kidding me? The 7300GS is 16000 at Unity Plaza. This card (7600GS) is about 3 times faster than that. So, isn't it a good price? You figure it out.

[shanX]

True. Then lets play Most Wanted together :lol:

But how? online?

[shanX]

Are you kidding me? The 7300GS is 16000 at Unity Plaza. This card (7600GS) is about 3 times faster than that. So, isn't it a good price? You figure it out.

I figured it out thanks to you and some websites.

You know what, i saw an oem 7300gs 256mb one for 6000/=, i think it is a gud deal than mine, if we think about price/performance...

And also ther is an oem 6600 512mb for 10000/=

[Sorry for delayed replies, just now only I came in, I played 8% of NFSC]

[Anusha]

But how? online?

Nope lol. You try to beat my track records ;)

[Anusha]

I figured it out thanks to you and some websites.

You know what, i saw an oem 7300gs 256mb one for 6000/=, i think it is a gud deal than mine, if we think about price/performance...

And also ther is an oem 6600 512mb for 10000/=

[Sorry for delayed replies, just now only I came in, I played 8% of NFSC]

8%???? Only 8%? Damn! I finished NFSC within 8 hours. :cool:

I was just giving an example. 512MB on a 6600 is not worth, not even on your card or on mine if mine as 512MB. Those are only marketing tricks.

[shanX]

8%???? Only 8%? Damn! I finished NFSC within 8 hours. :cool:

I was just giving an example. 512MB on a 6600 is not worth, not even on your card or on mine if mine as 512MB. Those are only marketing tricks.

8% in 2hrs :cool:. I just playd for 2 hours!! :yes: But could be completed in 24hrs

[shanX]

Nope lol. You try to beat my track records

I hav been playin NFSMW since its release, coz I was busy and @ last stages my P3 pc started to giveup. I'll post my current track records.

[Kasun Madushanka]

CPU = Pentium D 2.8GHz or 3GHz
Motherboard = Gigabyte / Asus motherboard with Intel 945G chipset
RAM = 512MB DDR2 533MHz Kinsgton
Video card = Geforce 6600 / 7300 G-Force256MB
Hard Drive = Seagate / Maxtor 160GB SATAII 8MB Cache, 7200RPM
DVDRW = Liteon / Sony 16x
Audio = onboard



this z better man!!!!!:D :D :D :D :D

[shanX]

CPU = Pentium D 2.8GHz or 3GHz
Motherboard = Gigabyte / Asus motherboard with Intel 945G chipset
RAM = 512MB DDR2 533MHz Kinsgton
Video card = Geforce 6600 / 7300 G-Force256MB
Hard Drive = Seagate / Maxtor 160GB SATAII 8MB Cache, 7200RPM
DVDRW = Liteon / Sony 16x
Audio = onboard



this z better man!!!!!:D :D :D :D :D

But I hav bought the same configuration, but a different vga

[Anusha]

8% in 2hrs :cool:. I just playd for 2 hours!! :yes: But could be completed in 24hrs

So have you finished it now? Where are your NFSMW track recrods?

[zCexVe]

ShanX,Anusha i read your forum top 2 bottum.I think u wanna that machine 4 gaming.:confused:when it comes 2 gaming AMD performs far more better than intel.:angry:
but the parts 4 AMD are rare in SL.I am so pi**ed off @ it.[Intel is best 4 3D with its HT.It can handle pure multitasking @ that.AMD's hyper threading is best in video,audio,Gaming.I beat a 3.4 ;2MB L2,nVidia 5850 GE 256MB 64 bit,2G Kingston DDR400 with my one at video rendering:shocked:]AMD contains memory controller in tha CPU not like Intel on motheroard,So u cant talk about memory management.Also if u want a good sound,Try a board with creative onboard.It worked 4 me and it is so good.Also try Cmedia CM8838 or Realtek ALC 880 they r good 2.U wanna oerclock things?safely? then i recommend MSI.I am using MSI 4 ,5 years.Never caused me a trouble(3 PCS i'e used includes current).MSI drivers r written supporting overclocking,hardware is built 4 it.When buying parts try buying parts which goes 2 American/canadian market.They contain many optional things and they r given urnin tests verywell @ factory.So they rn't fried suddenly:sorry:.
Anusha what do you think of my pc.Here r the specs.

AMD Athlon 64 Socket 939 3200+,512 KB L2
2 x 512MB Kingston DDR400(Cost me 8800 LKR 2 months ago with lifetime warranty:D)
MSI K8N Diamond Plus board
[nvidia nForce 4-SLI x 16 + nVidia C51D chipset]
[American market- 1GB HT,contains 2 x PCI-Ex16,2 x PCI-Ex1,1 x PCI-E x4,2 PCI 2.3, 6 SATA II[ with Raid 0,1,5,0+1,JBod and 4 supports SATA on the go ], 2 EIDE,Creative sound Blaster audigy 2 SE onoard(96KHz,24 bit,100dbSNR,7.1 out + optical + coaxial + mic + linein)10 USB2.0,2 Firewire,1 firewire mini,2 SATA II back panel extension][Got it from my uncle in LA,US for 289USD:shocked:]
Astrix 500 W Power supply[built in AVR 90v~250v:D,24A @ 12V rail,30A @ 3.3V rail,30A @ 5V rail,24 pin,got 2 fans with fan controller +10 Blue LEDs in it:cool:.it has 2 SATA + 6 normal connectors.It was the only PSU in LK with 8pin EPS power connecter which my motheroard needs.Cost me 5500LKR with 2 year warranty. ]

MSI nVidia Ge-Force 7300LE(64 bit,256MB,turbocache upto 512 MB)to which card i should upgrade?

Sony DRU820A [Also american market]
Hitachi 250GB SATAII 8MB 7200 RPM
AOC 17 inch TF

I agree with u about mice & KB.I use a A4Tech mini mouse & a Logitech K.ut u have to choose them by feeling them not by reading forums.

What r the pros & cons of my PC?
It would be a great pleasure 2 me if U comment on that....

[Anusha]

Athlon64 performs better than Pentium-D but not even close to Core2Duo. Core2Duo is the king.

Anyway, a dual core Pentium is better than a single core Athlon64. AthlonX2s are very rare in Sri Lanka, and they are very expensive. My Core2Duo was cheaper than the 3800 X2.

If you are a gamer, it's the video card that matters really. You need a very good video card.

I'm in sort of a hurry. I will post a good reply in the evening. Over and out.

[zCexVe]

NFSC works fine with me.I finished it in about 10 hours.Anusha is great than me.Races r very easy except canyons and drifts.They r easy :-).I do not recommend this but if u r hard on cash or drifting visit www.cheathappens.com.there is a megatrainer to do the tasks.in canyon duels try to pass them 4 10 secs.i won them all y doing that.Use a MMC Lancer EVO IX or Nissan 240 SX or Skyline with full torque,full oversteer,full accel,drift tyres,Low rpm turbo for drifts.

[shanX]

So have you finished it now? Where are your NFSMW track recrods?

No, am @ 82%

Hold on, I'll post track records!

[shanX]

ShanX,Anusha i read your forum top 2 bottumIts true that US market products are good, but the're non existent here. Even asian market products. And Core2Duo is the best, I hav to agree when I see this month's current bill, however I'll switch over in another month :) If am lucky enough!

I've used a Cmedia CM8838 pci, but they're not much good. Now I've onboard a a something 'Realtek Hi Definition Audio', I think its ALC 880, wtever quality sounds. But Creative is better.

2 x 512MB Kingston DDR400(Cost me 8800 LKR 2 months ago with lifetime warranty
You forgot to mention the store... I need one of those.

And the bottomline is, You should get a 7600 GT or GS.

[shanX]

NFSMW

1:45:70 on Seaside & powerstation
1:32:49 on Diamond & Union
[with my Dodge Viper SRT-10]

HDR effect rocks on NFSMW!

[Anusha]

NFSC works fine with me.I finisghed it in about 10 hours.Anusha is great than me.Races are very easy except canyons and drifts.They r easy :-).I do not recommend this but if u r hard on cash or drifting visit www.cheathappens.com.there is a megatrainer to do the tasks.

Drift is one of the easiest races in the game. I can almost always score more than double the points of the second highest drifter in a race.

[Anusha]

NFSC works fine with me.I finished it in about 10 hours.Anusha is great than me.Races r very easy except canyons and drifts.They r easy :-).I do not recommend this but if u r hard on cash or drifting visit www.cheathappens.com.there is a megatrainer to do the tasks.in canyon duels try to pass them 4 10 secs.i won them all y doing that.Use a MMC Lancer EVO IX or Nissan 240 SX or Skyline with full torque,full oversteer,full accel,drift tyres,Low rpm turbo for drifts.

I didn't have to change anything. The 50% option in everything worked fine. Remember this is the Corvette Z06, which is the best accelerator in the game.

[Anusha]

ShanX,Anusha i read your forum top 2 bottum.I think u wanna that machine 4 gaming.:confused:when it comes 2 gaming AMD performs far more better than intel.:angry:
but the parts 4 AMD are rare in SL.I am so pi**ed off @ it.[Intel is best 4 3D with its HT.It can handle pure multitasking @ that.AMD's hyper threading is best in video,audio,Gaming.I beat a 3.4 ;2MB L2,nVidia 5850 GE 256MB 64 bit,2G Kingston DDR400 with my one at video rendering:shocked:]AMD contains memory controller in tha CPU not like Intel on motheroard,So u cant talk about memory management.Also if u want a good sound,Try a board with creative onboard.It worked 4 me and it is so good.Also try Cmedia CM8838 or Realtek ALC 880 they r good 2.U wanna oerclock things?safely? then i recommend MSI.I am using MSI 4 ,5 years.Never caused me a trouble(3 PCS i'e used includes current).MSI drivers r written supporting overclocking,hardware is built 4 it.When buying parts try buying parts which goes 2 American/canadian market.They contain many optional things and they r given urnin tests verywell @ factory.So they rn't fried suddenly:sorry:.
Anusha what do you think of my pc.Here r the specs.

AMD Athlon 64 Socket 939 3200+,512 KB L2
2 x 512MB Kingston DDR400(Cost me 8800 LKR 2 months ago with lifetime warranty:D)
MSI K8N Diamond Plus board
[nvidia nForce 4-SLI x 16 + nVidia C51D chipset]
[American market- 1GB HT,contains 2 x PCI-Ex16,2 x PCI-Ex1,1 x PCI-E x4,2 PCI 2.3, 6 SATA II[ with Raid 0,1,5,0+1,JBod and 4 supports SATA on the go ], 2 EIDE,Creative sound Blaster audigy 2 SE onoard(96KHz,24 bit,100dbSNR,7.1 out + optical + coaxial + mic + linein)10 USB2.0,2 Firewire,1 firewire mini,2 SATA II back panel extension][Got it from my uncle in LA,US for 289USD:shocked:]
Astrix 500 W Power supply[built in AVR 90v~250v:D,24A @ 12V rail,30A @ 3.3V rail,30A @ 5V rail,24 pin,got 2 fans with fan controller +10 Blue LEDs in it:cool:.it has 2 SATA + 6 normal connectors.It was the only PSU in LK with 8pin EPS power connecter which my motheroard needs.Cost me 5500LKR with 2 year warranty. ]

MSI nVidia Ge-Force 7300LE(64 bit,256MB,turbocache upto 512 MB)to which card i should upgrade?

Sony DRU820A [Also american market]
Hitachi 250GB SATAII 8MB 7200 RPM
AOC 17 inch TF

I agree with u about mice & KB.I use a A4Tech mini mouse & a Logitech K.ut u have to choose them by feeling them not by reading forums.

What r the pros & cons of my PC?
It would be a great pleasure 2 me if U comment on that....

Your PC isn't too bad. But you better upgrade your CPU to a 3800 X2 or higher before they are out of stock. But forget about warranty because I don't think they make these CPUs anymore.

That motherboard is a complete waste of money, if you aren't using any of the great features that motherboard offers. You have SLi and you aren't using it. You have RAID support but you aren't using it. Besides, you bought the power supply specifically for it no? So that's about 28900+5500 LKR to get the motherboard working.

MSI isn't the best motherboard maker for overclocking. Gigabyte 965P boards are the best for Intel. I don't know about Athlon64. But since you can't overclock them much, I don't think the motherboard really matters. Intel Core2Duo CPUs can reach 2000MHz FSB or even higher, if the motherboard supports it. So the motherboard plays a huge role in overclocking. Gigabyte have employed advanced power regulator circuits in their latest boards so they are better in overclocking than the rest. However, the new nVidia 680 chipset based boards pushes up the ceiling even higher.

[zCexVe]

I some times use RAID with a 8oG i have.I'm planning to have SLi Thats why i asked you whats best 4 me(not 2 much pricy).Anyway im goin 2 get an 4200x2 with the help of my uncle.U should try things 4 US market.They contain many accessories.I got a great converter cable with my VGA.with the performance i get from the mobo i've never felt that it was a waste of money.Besides who isnt like a Diamond Plus board which is the highest to any Socket from MSI??like Asus Deluxe??bro the mobo can overclock(thats the safest it give for dynamic OClock). the cpu 2 15%.if u want more there is a switch to change DDR voltage from 2.6-->4.0 V[unfortunately warrenty seal is on that jumper]my processors clock speed is 2020MHz.if i overclocked to 15% does it become 2323 MHz?Or do i have to change other Memory timers?BIOS have these options.Shan X those RAMS are the last 5 of that stock.So i got them cheap.Try the trick.It worked for me.

[shanX]

Shan X those RAMS are the last 5 of that stock.So i got them cheap.Try the trick.It worked for me.

Hah ha, what trick? Tell me dude!

Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 is 16k, might 4 out of 5 features this MSI motherboard has
and with C2D.....

[Anusha]

You will have to play with the RAM timings, because your RAM won't run at 466MHz at default timings. Don't use more than 2.8V on DDR. Higher V's are for extreme overclockers.

Converter cable? What do you mean?

I think you have misunderstood retail vs. oem for usa vs. asian or something. It's the same thing for both markets. Besides, as a company based in Taiwan/China, do you think MSI will give better products to USA than Asia? Same with Asus, Gigabyte etc.

RAM prices have gone up in the whole world btw. And they are comparable to sri lankan prices.

[Anusha]

Hah ha, what trick? Tell me dude!

Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 is 16k, might 4 out of 5 features this MSI motherboard has
and with C2D.....

16k!!!
oh, but that's not 965P-DS3

[shanX]

Yed I think it's not 965P-DS3, just S3, which has some durable capacitors or something...

[Anusha]

yeah

[Anusha]

i'll wait until the prices become less than 10000 before buying a new motherboard to overclock my CPU. right now, this CPU is more than enough.

[zCexVe]

Then why i cant register my MOBO @ www.msi.com.tw??I can only register it in www.msicomputer.com.try visiting them.and u r right.Gigabyte oards r always cheaper for the performance.But think.Do we buy an ASUS board cause only it is luxurious in parts or better than other??No but we think that cause of its very high price its so good and because of that the value of PC goes high!!.

[shanX]

Why shud u register ur mobo?

I think Asus has a lot features and value for money (although EPSI sells sells value=money+money with 3yr warranty), Gigabyte means budget in Taiwanese I think... MSI i dont know.

[zCexVe]

Micro Star International Inc.Hows ur NFSC progress.Don't u think the story isn't good like NFSMW?And I think races r easy than MW? Do you to?

[Anusha]

What story? Was there even one? haha :lol:

[zCexVe]

Take a look around [not the track for MI]www.tomshardware.com , it contains some head to head comparisons between almont everything.Also the site mentioned by Anusha @ vga guide , www.tweakguide.com .Thanx bro.I read that.Even a kid could go pro with that.I should browse that more to close up with u;-)[just kiddin.]

[Anusha]

Don't kid. I don't mind people learning things if they are interested.

[shanX]

http://www.tweakguide.com/ is some crap, a parked domain

[Anusha]

www.tweakguides.com :lol:
He missed the "s" in the end.

[Novindu]

hmmm nice convo......yeah as anusha said GB 965p board is da best oclockin board on da mkt......i thnk its ds3 board as i can rememba...!!!!

[deffa]

hey guys if u need compuert parts i can help get them from unity plaza for a lower price..from ma frins shop.. If interested PM me

[Novindu]

hey guys if u need compuert parts i can help get them from unity plaza for a lower price..from ma frins shop.. If interested PM me
thx deffa ill let u kno if i want some thn;););)
me eka neme ubata cut eka kiyak enawada???:lol::lol::lol::lol:

[deffa]

thx deffa ill let u kno if i want some thn;););)
me eka neme ubata cut eka kiyak enawada???:lol::lol::lol::lol:


ado umbalata no cut yako... its one of ma frins shop ne...:cool: :cool:

[Novindu]

ado umbalata no cut yako... its one of ma frins shop ne...:cool: :cool:
hehe i was just kiddin man.....:yes::yes: ela ela one una gaman kiyannang ubata;);)

[Anusha]

NFSMW

1:45:70 on Seaside & powerstation
1:32:49 on Diamond & Union
[with my Dodge Viper SRT-10]

HDR effect rocks on NFSMW!

Here's my record on the Seaside & Powerstation sprint track. This is on my beloved Carerra GT (:love: :love: :love: )with three hard opponents, maximum traffic and no catchup.
Time = 1:31:54 :yes: :yes: :yes:
And here's proof :cool:
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2263/sspsanushako3.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sspsanushako3.jpg)

I will see what I can set without any traffic - right now. :yes:

[shanX]

I did with medium traffic, I'll try it again. But you know I still have a Viper!

[Anusha]

I did with medium traffic, I'll try it again. But you know I still have a Viper!

I'm a bit amazed that I couldn't improve more than a second when i raced without any traffic.
1:30:79 without any traffic on Seaside & Power Station track.

[shanX]

Hey check this, I did an overclocking session on 7600, core does 600mhz! http://www.elakiri.com/forum/images/icons/sq/11.gif

Might do more, but i gave up...

Tell me what might be the safest range, around 550mhz?
I didnt push the memory its on default, coz it has no coling options, so might blow up!

[Anusha]

Hey check this, I did an overclocking session on 7600, core does 600mhz! http://www.elakiri.com/forum/images/icons/sq/11.gif

Might do more, but i gave up...

Tell me what might be the safest range, around 550mhz?
I didnt push the memory its on default, coz it has no coling options, so might blow up!

There is not such thing as the safest. If it works stably, then it's OK. i don't know how to stress test nVidia cards. on ATI, the utility called ATITool can find the maximum clock speed. But in my case, I have to limit it because the card diesn't have enough power because their isn't an external power connector as there is on the X850XT.

[shanX]

see...

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4056/received05122006230239rh7.jpg

But now I'm using 530mhz, I have to try this for an hour or so on Mostwanted or something....

[Anusha]

U wanna oerclock things?safely? then i recommend MSI.I am using MSI 4 ,5 years.Never caused me a trouble(3 PCS i'e used includes current).MSI drivers r written supporting overclocking,hardware is built 4 it.When buying parts try buying parts which goes 2 American/canadian market.They contain many optional things and they r given urnin tests verywell @ factory.So they rn't fried suddenly:sorry:.



Check out this image.
http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/p965part3_12030641247/13642.png

MSI's Core 2 Duo motherboard can't overclock a E6300 very well. However, I'm not so impressed by the Gigabyte motherboards either. They are supposed to overclock to 500MHz FSB (or 2GHz quad pumped). Asus motherboards seems consistent.

[shanX]

Everything is ok with Asus, here in Sri Lanka, except prices

[Anusha]

Everything is ok with Asus, here in Sri Lanka, except prices

Agreed. Maybe we should let Asus know about the prices. They will hopefully bring another agent to the playground.

[shanX]

Ha ha. Sometimes...

I suggest Pc House!

[Anusha]

Ha ha. Sometimes...

I suggest Pc House!

But then it will be lile a PC House monopoly here. We need competition to lower the prices. I wonder if EPSI doesn't care. However, only EPSI has the highend products. So a person who would spend a huge sum, would have no choice but to buy from EPSI.

[shanX]

But then it will be like a PC House monopoly here....
But somehow its no use, coz I went to Asus's own sales centre, Asus Centre. They're selling Nvidia 6600's for 16k, 7600GS for 22k, 7600GT for 29k. So already there is a thing as Asus monopoly!

I tried Mostwanted with 600mhz, 550mhz on my gpu, was fast, but once in a while there were lags. Then came down to 500mhz, its stable. Then I tried the memory, just curious, I have been already running it stably @ 800mhz, Then I increased it to 820mhz and applied, Then the monitor started to see some birds fly around it, blinking, redlines and all. No more than 800-810mhz. Now the card is smooth and stable.

Is there a way to see the framerate on Mostwanted?

[Anusha]

Download FRAPS. It's free, with limitation. But to measure the framerates, those capabilities are enough. Just google it.

If you had problems at 820MHz RAM, I wouldn't run it at anything higher than 800MHz. Don't use 810MHz. 800MHz or even 780-790 is good enough. You won't see a difference with such a minor drop in clock speed.

[Anusha]

Oops. Missed one thing. If the game was laggy when playing it at higher core clock speeds, maybe the CPU is limiting you at those settings. Even though it is a dual core CPU, still in games, it's just like a 2.8GHz P4, which is not the best out there for gaming. If I were you, I would have already overclocked the bastard as much as I can without overvolting it. But remember, higher clock speed ==> higher power consumption.

[shanX]

Yes I Googled and just downloaded Fraps. I'm now running exactly @ 800mhz, its stable. Core @ 480mhz.

D820 cpu could be clocked to 4000Ghz max, But tell me a good tool to do it? Had a oc tool on Gigabyte MBoard cd, it doesnt allow to overclock. You know what, your making me a overclock everything.

And please explain this to me....
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/5505/received07122006125840fk9.jpghttp://img174.imageshack.us/img174/5378/received07122006125910og8.jpghttp://img146.imageshack.us/img146/483/received07122006125930jy0.jpg

Its CPU-Z. Is Ram frequency and FSB ok? And It shows D920????

[Anusha]

Use EASY Tune5 first. That comes with the motherboard CD right?
Once you find the maximum stable clock speed or the one you are gonna use, set them in BIOS. Why you have to use Easy Tune is because otherwise you will have to reset the BIOS several times in the process.

You will have to play with the memory multipler too - and even increase the RAM voltages. Up to 2.3V or so, it's safe. Default is 1.8V for DDR2. Memory will the most likely thing that would stop you from passing 3.4GHz or so.

I doubt you'll go for 4GHz with stock cooling. It's endangering the CPU.

[Anusha]

Yeah those frequencies and timing are correct.

[Anusha]

Hey I didn't know you bought a 920. I thought it was a 820. You are in luck, because they consume far less power than 8xx CPUs, so you might easily be able to go past 3.4GHz. But try not to overvolt.

[Anusha]

What's the FPS in NFSMW?

[shanX]

EASY Tune doesnt allow anything at all, the oc option is greyed out, board doesnt support and bios option for cpu clock is not available. There is a memory multiplier option.

[shanX]

I'll post the FPS hold on...........

No, what I bought was D820, something wrong on CPU-Z

[Anusha]

I'll post the FPS hold on...........

No, what I bought was D820, something wrong on CPU-Z

Hehe. Pray that it's a 920 :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Anusha]

EASY Tune doesnt allow anything at all, the oc option is greyed out, board doesnt support and bios option for cpu clock is not available. There is a memory multiplier option.

Shit! This could mean that you can't overclock at all. In BIOS, did u press ctrl+f1 to unlock the hidden options?

[shanX]

N, I there's such a thing? Then I'll try.

[shanX]

My friend's 6600GT, I told about.. Clocks @ an awesome 500/2000. Whatever Gigabyte rocks!!

[Anusha]

is should be 500/1000

[shanX]

Yes but this card had 2000mhz effective mem clock!! (shown on control panel oc utility)

Hah ha, check this - Nvidia is the best!
Nvidia power - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/image.php?u=19714&dateline=1153085634&.jpg

NFSMW FPS:

@ 480/800
27-29 FPS with every option on/maxed out.
29-32 FPS with 1x minus of shadow detail & road reflection settings + Vsync off

@ 490/800
27-29 FPS with every option on/maxed out.
31-33 FPS with 1x minus of shadow detail & road reflection settings + Vsync off

@ 500/800
27-30 FPS with every option on/maxed out.
33-37 FPS with 1x minus of shadow detail & road reflection settings + Vsync off

@ 510/800
25-29 FPS with every option on/maxed out.
27-37 FPS with 1x minus of shadow detail & road reflection settings + Vsync off

@ 520/800
24-29 FPS with every option on/maxed out.
29-42 FPS with 1x minus of shadow detail & road reflection settings + Vsync off

Is this OK? Tell me yours...
So 500/800 is stable! I'll keep it at that or around 495mhz.

[Anusha]

DDR3 can't go to 2GHz. Control Panel has gone crazy or something.
6600GT's default clock speeds are 500/1000

[Anusha]

Yes but this card had 2000mhz effective mem clock!! (shown on control panel oc utility)

Hah ha, check this - Nvidia is the best!
Nvidia power - http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/image.php?u=19714&dateline=1153085634&.jpg

NFSMW FPS:

@ 480/800
27-29 FPS with every option on/maxed out.
29-32 FPS with 1x minus of shadow detail & road reflection settings + Vsync off

@ 490/800
27-29 FPS with every option on/maxed out.
31-33 FPS with 1x minus of shadow detail & road reflection settings + Vsync off

@ 500/800
27-30 FPS with every option on/maxed out.
33-37 FPS with 1x minus of shadow detail & road reflection settings + Vsync off

@ 510/800
25-29 FPS with every option on/maxed out.
27-37 FPS with 1x minus of shadow detail & road reflection settings + Vsync off

@ 520/800
24-29 FPS with every option on/maxed out.
29-42 FPS with 1x minus of shadow detail & road reflection settings + Vsync off

Is this OK? Tell me yours...
So 500/800 is stable! I'll keep it at that or around 495mhz.

At 16 pixel pipelines and 510/1060, and 1280x960 everything at max including AA and AF, 26-33fps.

[shanX]

At 16 pixel pipelines and 510/1060, and 1280x960 everything at max including AA and AF, 26-33fps.

That's 16 pipelines and memory @ action. You deserve it, but did you give some buck to a sales person... I've doubts :yes: ;) :D

And wish me for the D920! :D :D :D

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3504/received07122006231055dh8.jpg

Like the D 820 before it, the D 920 features a pair of cores, but thats really where the similarities end. First, the D 820 Smithfield core was built using a pair of Prescott cores while the D 920 Presler core is built using the brand new, and much improved, Cedar Mill core (which we'll be reviewing later this week).

The Prescott cores developed a bad reputation because of their horrendous power consumption and heat dissipation....compounding that was the Prescott cores were actually joined on the Pentium D 820s, meaning that a bad core made the entire processor worthless, where the Presler uses a pair of seperate cores, meaning that if one is defective it can be replaced. Also, the seperate cores mean that INTEL can use market demand to package these cores as single core Cedar Mill processors or Dual Core Presler CPUs.

The next major difference between the Pentium D 820 and 920 processors is L2 cache. The 820 featured an impressive 2x1MB of L2 cache while the Pentium D 920 doubles that two 2x2MB of L2 cache. While some will debate the actual performance benefit of this added cache, bigger can only mean better. A processor's L2 cache allows for much faster access of any buffered data.

One feature not supported by the Pentium D 920 is EIST (Enhanced Intel Speed-Step Technology), this is because its already at the lowest possible multiplier for this core (x14). EIST basically downclocks a processors multiplier (to x14 on the 930, 940, 950, and 955 processors) based on system load, saving power and lowering temperatures.
-Extract off Hardware logic (http://www.hardwarelogic.com/news/128/ARTICLE/1157/2/2006-04-06.html)

I had doubts of it @ first, bcoz of the 2mb L2 it had. But the bad news is , it might have been a little cheaper than D820. :rolleyes:

[Anusha]

You know, that guy who sold me the card was a bit upset when he found out about it. He said, if the management knew, he's getting a big salary cut down for that month. Should have blackmailed him :lol:, but I'm an innocent guy. :rolleyes:

Cheers for the 920 :yes:

[shanX]

I can guess the guy exactly who. He's the one promised to give it to me also at that price. Then I sent a friend there, At first they've billed for the card and my friend has paid and they've told they cant give the card at display and sent a guy to fetch one from stock @ some other place. Then at that place some management guy has told its not possible at that price. My friend calld me, then I calld that guy u told, then he also told me, sorry, he was upset, told me he might get a salary cut if he sold it @ that price. Now its 14k. You were lucky!

[shanX]

DDR3 can't go to 2GHz. Control Panel has gone crazy or something.
6600GT's default clock speeds are 500/1000

But most Gigabyte vga's are overclocked @ stock!

[Anusha]

But most Gigabyte vga's are overclocked @ stock!

They can be, but 2GHz is impossible (the maximum for DDR3 is around 1.8GHz). For a card having 1GHz RAM, maybe 1.2GHz is the maximum anyone sells overclocked.

[shanX]

Wtever.. am saying what's shown on the cpanel

[chathu_]

passe welawaka okkama ewannam:yes: :yes:

[Anusha]

Wtever.. am saying what's shown on the cpanel

Don't believe everything you see. :yes:

[shanX]

passe welawaka okkama ewannam:yes: :yes:

Monvada evanne? :confused:

[Anusha]

He's a bit crazy. Ignore him. I think he's trying to increase his posts by spamming.

[Poscher]

good information..... thanks

[Heshanck93]

WTF???512 DDR2 Ram for 7500????
Lol 2006