ADSL Auto Connect with router

[mlakmal]

as it seems lot of guys use adsl auto connect.. i have a Q to ask does it work with routers

ny probs u guys exp usin it

[pasanlaksiri]

I have a ADSL 4 port router ( US Robotics ). So what do u mean by AUTO CONNECT

[mlakmal]

ADSL Auto Connect is a SW mach which will connect ur connection if its dropped

[Anusha]

Why would you need it if you have a router? Doesn't the router make the connection by itself?

[mlakmal]

Why would you need it if you have a router? Doesn't the router make the connection by itself?


i havnt used a adsl router yet plaanin to get a wireless router for adsl .

[Anusha]

You don't need an auto connect software for a router. The router will automatically establish the connection and will give your PC an ip address once it's connected thru the LAN port. I'm planning to buy a router as well, but not a wireless one, because I've fed up with looking for Vista x64 supported drivers for my ADSL modem. I doubt there will ever be such drivers. Not even for XP x64. The modem is the only thing that's preventing me from moving to 64-bit computing :angry:

[tckrockz]

i havnt used a adsl router yet plaanin to get a wireless router for adsl .
well macho in a adsl router when u switch it on it automactily connects 2 da net when aftr booting ur destop appears ur automatcily connetced 2 de internet
and if the internet is disconnected u hav 2 reboot the router
and macho u hav 2 configure it only once aftr dat u dnt need 2 configure it agn

[mlakmal]

well macho in a adsl router when u switch it on it automactily connects 2 da net when aftr booting ur destop appears ur automatcily connetced 2 de internet
and if the internet is disconnected u hav 2 reboot the router
and macho u hav 2 configure it only once aftr dat u dnt need 2 configure it agn


onna ooka thamaa man ahuwa prashne... api kiyamu router eka use karanawa ethakota...... adsl conn tiyanawa eeth data yanne naa ee kiyanne www.google.com wage site ekata ping karanna bari wenawa... mae wage awasthaawaka router eka mokakda wenne eka ibeema conn eka aluth kara gannawada


anik prasne umba kiwuwa wage adsl conn eka lost unoth router eka automatically conn aaye hadaagannawada

[Anusha]

Disconnect unoth aluthin hadaa gannawa.
Data yanne enne neththan reboot karanna wei (Router eka) Timeout ekakuth ethi router setup eke, reconnect karanna when data transfer has halted.

[mlakmal]

Disconnect unoth aluthin hadaa gannawa.
Data yanne enne neththan reboot karanna wei (Router eka) Timeout ekakuth ethi router setup eke, reconnect karanna when data transfer has halted.


ehema tiyanawanan hondai nathnan wedak naa... mokada api wadipura gewal wala naane ;) ehema welaawaka ooka wunoth wedak naa :D

[Novindu]

Disconnect unoth aluthin hadaa gannawa.
Data yanne enne neththan reboot karanna wei (Router eka) Timeout ekakuth ethi router setup eke, reconnect karanna when data transfer has halted.
ok dat meant u have ta be dere if da router gets dis conn???

[Anusha]

I don't know for sure. I think there is a connection reset timeout. I think the router pings a site every now and then and if there is a problem with the connection, it might try to reset the connection.

[pasanlaksiri]

Machan once u cofig ur router u will never want to touch it. Only thing u have to do Network and phone cable eka plug karala power denna witharai.

Machan uba ganna yana router eka mokadda?

[pasanlaksiri]

I don't know for sure. I think there is a connection reset timeout. I think the router pings a site every now and then and if there is a problem with the connection, it might try to reset the connection.

Yes machan u can config it manually.

[Anusha]

Does anyone know where to find a router for around Rs.6000? I would only need a maximum of two ports. I need a reliable, but cheap router. But it better support ADSL2+. Who knows if SLT will give away those connections soon?

[mlakmal]

matath honda wireless router ekak kiyanna balanna... gaanna nan aduma wenna onna na normal price awulak naa

[prasadana2]

dont worry the adsl line doesnt drop like an dial up connection
there are 2 types
adsl modems
adsl routers

they 2 does the same job the adsl modem can be used when only v need the connction, it connects to the usb

the router can be programed it connects to the lan and the connection is always swiched on no need to connect..

[pasanlaksiri]

Does anyone know where to find a router for around Rs.6000? I would only need a maximum of two ports. I need a reliable, but cheap router. But it better support ADSL2+. Who knows if SLT will give away those connections soon?

Hey bro 2 port routers nam naha. 4 thama minimum. Machan ADSL2 denna issara wela they have to full fill huge ADSL wating list.

Machan for 6000buks u can buy PLANET 4 port router.

But i recommend only U.S Robotics or D-Link ( SL only )

U.S Robotics - 8000+/-

[mlakmal]

dont worry the adsl line doesnt drop like an dial up connection
there are 2 types
adsl modems
adsl routers

they 2 does the same job the adsl modem can be used when only v need the connction, it connects to the usb

the router can be programed it connects to the lan and the connection is always swiched on no need to connect..


v knw it doesnt mach.... bt it happens some times.... and data nt transferin hapens too i had those scenarios thats y i use adsl auto connect SW which will chk adsl conn... i dont hw dees scenarios wrk wit router(adsl)

[amila325]

one of my friend also had the same porb but because of some software it is connecting automatically when windows starts
:cool: :cool: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :cool: :cool:

[prasadana2]

maja i took dlink dsl200 for 6250rs from barclies colombo (unity plaza)
but its a usb modem..

[HishamZz]

Router/Modem Auto Connect is basically a feature o modern day ADSL equipment which re-establishes connection automatically in case the connection gets terminated.. i ve not experienced manual reconnection so cant comment o dat.. itz default is ON.. n why off it?

Zz

[amila325]

maja i took dlink dsl200 for 6250rs from barclies colombo (unity plaza)
but its a usb modem..


how much is it machan some times they r saying that they don't have modems and only have the routers
:cool: :cool: :D :D :D :D :D :cool: :cool:

[pasanlaksiri]

matath honda wireless router ekak kiyanna balanna... gaanna nan aduma wenna onna na normal price awulak naa
If u buy a WiFi Router ( us robotics 14,000 +/- ) U must buy a WiFi PCI card ( us robotics 6000 +/- ) for ur pc. If u have a WiFi Ready Note Book or PDA, definitely it will worth. But if u dont have its only a waste of ur money.

IF u buy normal router, later if u want u can connect Wifi Access point to ur home network.

[mlakmal]

If u buy a WiFi Router ( us robotics 14,000 +/- ) U must buy a WiFi PCI card ( us robotics 6000 +/- ) for ur pc. If u have a WiFi Ready Note Book or PDA, definitely it will worth. But if u dont have its only a waste of ur money.

IF u buy normal router, later if u want u can connect Wifi Access point to ur home network.


ye i hav wifi card and a laptop dats y im goin fr it... and im lookin fr a wireless router dat will hav atleast 1 port (hadissiyak unoth)

[amila325]

sory prasa u have put the price neda i c it now its too much ne machan it was just 4000 machan some time ago
:cool: :cool: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :cool: :cool:

[amila325]

If u buy a WiFi Router ( us robotics 14,000 +/- ) U must buy a WiFi PCI card ( us robotics 6000 +/- ) for ur pc. If u have a WiFi Ready Note Book or PDA, definitely it will worth. But if u dont have its only a waste of ur money.

IF u buy normal router, later if u want u can connect Wifi Access point to ur home network.


WELCOME TO ELAKIRI KEEP POSTING DUDE

:cool: :cool: :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :cool: :cool:

[Anusha]

v knw it doesnt mach.... bt it happens some times.... and data nt transferin hapens too i had those scenarios thats y i use adsl auto connect SW which will chk adsl conn... i dont hw dees scenarios wrk wit router(adsl)

Dude, this usually happens after 10 hours. The ip address has to change after 10 hours (SLT). But when it does, sometimes the modem doesn't disconnect, but the ip address it had no longer works. So what you can do is make the router refresh the connection after 9hours and 59 minutes or so. With my modem, I've used ADSL Autoconnect to do this. I'm pretty sure a router has this option in its setup.

[Anusha]

I recommened to anyone who's gonna get ADSL, not to buy a modem. Problems "can" arise because of problems with the driver. With a router, there is only a hard link between it and the PC so software issues will not cause any problems with the connection. Besides, they aren't that expensive than a modem. Maybe Rs.1000 more. The only downside they have is that they have to be provided with power externally.

[mlakmal]

I recommened to anyone who's gonna get ADSL, not to buy a modem. Problems "can" arise because of problems with the driver. With a router, there is only a hard link between it and the PC so software issues will not cause any problems with the connection. Besides, they aren't that expensive than a modem. Maybe Rs.1000 more. The only downside they have is that they have to be provided with power externally.


thrs another bug in windows which make dis happen... its dat windows maximum half open tcp conn queue is 10 so when ever thr is more than dis much conn dis data transfer thinge coms. wht im nw doib is increase dis conn amount to 50 or more..

[Anusha]

But does it make things fast or less buggy. The only difference that I have seen after increasing the maximum simultaneous connections from 10 to say, 50, is that the event viewer won't add a warning entry about it. I haven't had any problems with only 10 connections.

[mlakmal]

But does it make things fast or less buggy. The only difference that I have seen after increasing the maximum simultaneous connections from 10 to say, 50, is that the event viewer won't add a warning entry about it. I haven't had any problems with only 10 connections.



well i had da data nt transferin prob with 10 maximum conn, ya dat error entry wont be thr...

[akilathiraj]

i have gigabyt wireless router .it has connect manualy so u go to control panel and network conection.after u will enable ur network icon.(rj 45 or cat 5)

[charmer]

Few Hints when u buy a router for Home and office networking

Make sure your router has inbuilt DHCP Server(which gives IP address for every connected PCs)

buy a modem with inbuilt ADSL modem so you wouldnt have to set up ur user name and password everytime when your modem unpluged or reset.

If you buy a D-Link WiFi router, you can replace its antena with powerful D-Link external antena and extend signal strength upto 2Km range.

[dineitdark]

I am having that auto disconnect problem. i leave my machine up 24/7 and usuelly i have to reboot my router at least 2 or 3 times a day. because all the n/w activity stops suddenly. i guess that IP address change is the problem. is there any application which does the rebooting thing automatically if the connection is lost... i can reboot my router(USR 1907) from the web interface. so it should be possibel for some little app to detect the loss of connection and then reboot the router, i guess...

And by the way i have set up 5 entries in my virtual server config in the router to allow some torrent downloading apps and some p2p apps work nicely. But i feel that after i add thees entries it slowed down my router a lot??? can something like this happen?

[tckrockz]

I am having that auto disconnect problem. i leave my machine up 24/7 and usuelly i have to reboot my router at least 2 or 3 times a day. because all the n/w activity stops suddenly. i guess that IP address change is the problem. is there any application which does the rebooting thing automatically if the connection is lost... i can reboot my router(USR 1907) from the web interface. so it should be possibel for some little app to detect the loss of connection and then reboot the router, i guess...

And by the way i have set up 5 entries in my virtual server config in the router to allow some torrent downloading apps and some p2p apps work nicely. But i feel that after i add thees entries it slowed down my router a lot??? can something like this happen?
i hav a same prob only @ nytttt

[Anusha]

I am having that auto disconnect problem. i leave my machine up 24/7 and usuelly i have to reboot my router at least 2 or 3 times a day. because all the n/w activity stops suddenly. i guess that IP address change is the problem. is there any application which does the rebooting thing automatically if the connection is lost... i can reboot my router(USR 1907) from the web interface. so it should be possibel for some little app to detect the loss of connection and then reboot the router, i guess...
Isn't a router suppose to automatically reconnect when the IP address refreshes? I thought the problem was only with modems.

[dineitdark]

tckrockz : are you having the same kind of router or is your router a USRobotics one?

Anusha : i think the router get connected automatically but all the applications that are running in the system get confused when the ip changes???? i guess....

[thilinapm]

Isn't a router suppose to automatically reconnect when the IP address refreshes? I thought the problem was only with modems.


yes anusha ur correct with routers its will connected automaticaly if its disconnected,but i think this guys some times reseting there routers thinking that the problem is with the connection,but its not ,the only thing u should have to restar ur router is because of router stucking thats why u need to reset it,its not because of connection drop.

[dineitdark]

i thought of this router stucking/freezing thing but my router(and many others too.. i guess) runs a small scaled down version of linux inside. so i gave the freezing thing a second thought :-)

But anyways thees cheap routers must not be so good with handling so much bittorrent traffic + p2p traffic....etc so it may be the reason.

But anyways is'nt there any kind of automated way to resolve this problem?

[thilinapm]

i thought of this router stucking/freezing thing but my router(and many others too.. i guess) runs a small scaled down version of linux inside. so i gave the freezing thing a second thought :-)

But anyways thees cheap routers must not be so good with handling so much bittorrent traffic + p2p traffic....etc so it may be the reason.

But anyways is'nt there any kind of automated way to resolve this problem?

u mean this stucking prob no.
4 my knowledge nope there is no automatical way to solve this.

[Anusha]

tckrockz : are you having the same kind of router or is your router a USRobotics one?

Anusha : i think the router get connected automatically but all the applications that are running in the system get confused when the ip changes???? i guess....
It could happen with torrents. :yes: :yes:
Because from private trackers, you are not supposed to leech from two IP addresses at the same time.

Also if you are downloading something through your browser, then it will get canceled as well. But if you use a Download Accelerator/Manager, it should be fine, if the server supports resuming.

So you have to plan things out a bit. Don't start downloading big files (through the browser) if you've had been connected for a while.

TBH, I don't run into such problems with the IP refresh thingy. I'm using that software.

[dineitdark]

Well i think i got it wrong, all the pcs connected to a route have there own private ips so even if the public ip of the router changes, the PCs won't really need to bother about it. cause all they do is forward all the packets to the router(which is the default gateway). but when the ip changes it breaks all the connections that the PCs were having with the outside world as those servers, apps, PCs in the outside world don't know about the IP change.

Well i m not sure of any of thees, just guessing :-)

tckrockz : are you having the same kind of router or is your router a USRobotics one?

Anusha : i think the router get connected automatically but all the applications that are running in the system get confused when the ip changes???? i guess....

[Anusha]

i thought of this router stucking/freezing thing but my router(and many others too.. i guess) runs a small scaled down version of linux inside. so i gave the freezing thing a second thought :-)

But anyways thees cheap routers must not be so good with handling so much bittorrent traffic + p2p traffic....etc so it may be the reason.

But anyways is'nt there any kind of automated way to resolve this problem?
Cheap router? Hehe. My modem is the crappiest modem a person could find in the whole world. :lol: :lol:

[thilinapm]

Well i think i got it wrong, all the pcs connected to a route have there own private ips so even if the public ip of the router changes, the PCs won't really need to bother about it. cause all they do is forward all the packets to the router(which is the default gateway). but when the ip changes it breaks all the connections that the PCs were having with the outside world as those servers, apps, PCs in the outside world don't know about the IP change.

Well i m not sure of any of thees, just guessing :-)

yeah ur correct on that.

[dineitdark]

wow! its like this, i have

BearFlix + BitTyrant(a modfied version of the populer Azureus client) + eMule + gaim running in the background. I don't uselly use the browser to hadel any downloads...

But the thing is all of this stops! and when it does stop i can't even ping google! like the n/w b/w usage is 0!!!

[Anusha]

wow! its like this, i have

BearFlix + BitTyrant(a modfied version of the populer Azureus client) + eMule + gaim running in the background. I don't uselly use the browser to hadel any downloads...

But the thing is all of this stops! and when it does stop i can't even ping google! like the n/w b/w usage is 0!!!
Is it possible to manually give the router a period to refresh the connection? You problem happened to me too. The IP address was changed, but the connection was still there, but couldn't do any transfers (because the IP address is wrong)

SLT connections' IP refresg time is 10 hours (600 minutes). If you can make the router reset the connection every 599 minutes, I think your problem will go away. That's what I do through ADSL Autoconnect. I refresh it every 599 minutes, without automating it. Try it...

[tckrockz]

tckrockz : are you having the same kind of router or is your router a USRobotics one?

Anusha : i think the router get connected automatically but all the applications that are running in the system get confused when the ip changes???? i guess....
mine is Prolink

[dineitdark]

A: well im gonna try that, i updated my router's firmware and since its very slow to respond(the web interface is so slow when i am online), may be the reason is the fact that i have some 5 virtual servers configured??? i don't know, gotta go in and have a look for that settings in the router's conf

tckrockz: ok then its not a problem with my router.... it seems

[Anusha]

A: well im gonna try that, i updated my router's firmware and since its very slow to respond(the web interface is so slow when i am online), may be the reason is the fact that i have some 5 virtual servers configured??? i don't know, gotta go in and have a look for that settings in the router's conf

tckrockz: ok then its not a problem with my router.... it seems
What's with the virtual servers?

[dineitdark]

Its rather Port forwarding entries i should say :-) virtual servers is the term used in USR configuring interfaces. i guess now you get it.

What's with the virtual servers?

[Anusha]

Its rather Port forwarding entries i should say :-) virtual servers is the term used in USR configuring interfaces. i guess now you get it.
I have no idea about them :sorry: :sorry: :sorry:

[dineitdark]

its like when you are behind a router with a private ip you cannot accept any incomming connections from the internet with out configuring your router for that.

becasue all the packets that leave the router goes with the source ip of the router's interface. so all of the PCs behind the router communicate with the net under that ip. router makes this process trance parent by doing stuff to the packet header when they pass through it. but when application need to accept incoming connections from the net. they can't do it cause, they are trying to connect to the router rather than the real pc which runs the service/app. so in order to solve this the routers do something called port mapping. which when configured will forward any packets that the router receives for a certain port to a specified machine in the LAN.

so as i run a lot of bittorrent clients and stuff they need to get incoming connections to run at the full speed. so i've add some entries. but when there are more entries there are more work for the router. so i suspected that this slows down the router, but im not sure about that.

Read www.portforwarding.com 's guides... i am not a good explainer :-(

[Anusha]

its like when you are behind a router with a private ip you cannot accept any incomming connections from the internet with out configuring your router for that.

becasue all the packets that leave the router goes with the source ip of the router's interface. so all of the PCs behind the router communicate with the net under that ip. router makes this process trance parent by doing stuff to the packet header when they pass through it. but when application need to accept incoming connections from the net. they can't do it cause, they are trying to connect to the router rather than the real pc which runs the service/app. so in order to solve this the routers do something called port mapping. which when configured will forward any packets that the router receives for a certain port to a specified machine in the LAN.

so as i run a lot of bittorrent clients and stuff they need to get incoming connections to run at the full speed. so i've add some entries. but when there are more entries there are more work for the router. so i suspected that this slows down the router, but im not sure about that.

Read www.portforwarding.com 's guides... i am not a good explainer :-(

Woah! It's not easy using a router, as I thought.

[dineitdark]

No thats the hard way, if your router supports UPnP then it will automatically configure this stuff???? not sure though. Anyways its not harder as it seems.

Woah! It's not easy using a router, as I thought.

[Anusha]

No thats the hard way, if your router supports UPnP then it will automatically configure this stuff???? not sure though. Anyways its not harder as it seems.
Then I should look out for that when I'm buying one. :)

[charmer]

Few Hints when u buy a router for Home and office networking

Make sure your router has inbuilt DHCP Server(which gives IP address for every connected PCs)

buy a router with inbuilt ADSL modem so you wouldnt have to set up ur user name and password everytime when your modem unpluged or reset.

If you buy a D-Link WiFi router, you can replace its antena with powerful D-Link external antena and extend signal strength upto 2Km range.


I think all this connection drops problem can be solved with buying a router with inbuilt ADSL modem. onse you configure them right nothing else you have to do.

inbuilt modem on the router can solve the problem of finding USB drivers for external Modems.

[Anusha]

I think all this connection drops problem can be solved with buying a router with inbuilt ADSL modem. onse you configure them right nothing else you have to do.

inbuilt modem on the router can solve the problem of finding USB drivers for external Modems.
Actually, an ADSL router IS an ADSL modem with several LAN ports (and routing capabilities).

[charmer]

I have no idea about them :sorry: :sorry: :sorry:

dineitdark info say it all, :)

Normaly all the incoming connections from outside will be forwarded to your WAN IP:port???(the IP which your ISP assigned for you). you can check your default gateway or WAN IP address by checking your connection properties.

So when you have a router, if somebody type your WAN IP from outside str8away it connects to your router config menu cos thats the last port before router allows the incoming connection to go through your Local area network (which is your PC and all other devices connects to the router).

so you can break this barrier by configuring router to forward the connection to your LAN IP address and PORT by using

DMZ
Portforwarding
virtual servers (comes with the list off all the famous Servers and their ports, easy to select and forward to your PC)

All these three words do the same thingy but come as seperate options.

Anyways, good to see you guys having fun with ADSL in srilanka.

and how about the speed down there???

Br,

[charmer]

Actually, an ADSL router IS an ADSL modem with several LAN ports (and routing capabilities).

And you may find non ADSL routers without Inbuilt modem but can be used with external ADSL modem. different ISP provides different type of connections and equipments for broadband connections too. like NTL and BT in UK

Br

[mlakmal]

im also thinkin of goin to aA ROUTER ..... thrs a 4 port adsl2+ wifi router for 10500 ,,, its a us robotics one

[charmer]

im also thinkin of goin to aA ROUTER ..... thrs a 4 port adsl2+ wifi router for 10500 ,,, its a us robotics one


Wifi is the best option if you have a laptop,pda,IP CAM or Pocket PC (and many more you can connect wireless) so you can access them all and charge ppl money for using your internet if you have a wider coverage:).but dude if you have just one single desktop PC, then you dont even need any routers. just use the modem:):)

[charmer]

Do they give VPN aswell in srilanka???

[mlakmal]

Wifi is the best option if you have a laptop,pda,IP CAM or Pocket PC (and many more you can connect wireless) so you can access them all and charge ppl money for using your internet if you have a wider coverage:).but dude if you have just one single desktop PC, then you dont even need any routers. just use the modem:):)


ya thats da reason im goin for wifi one.... now im usin hub to coonect the laptop to the net

and slt seems to b goin for adsl2+ next... so bttr gt ready nw ;)

[charmer]

Just got to know that south korian home broadband connection is 75 times faster than british one.

good luck with all yaa new ADSL koooool :) :) SLT can do better

Br,

[amilaudana]

we have big one. and there are another switches connected for it

[Anusha]

The only reason why I need an ADSL router is because of the driver troubles associated with USB modems. But, at least mine works in Vista 32bit, and Vista 64bit is too bossy with software, so I might stick with the 32bit, hence won't buy a router anytime soon. :)

[dineitdark]

we have big one. and there are another switches connected for it

well i don't know how SLT works and how many stuff it have for it self but one thing is clear. u guys can start improving the service qulity of the couurent ADSL service given to your customers. i mean just look at the whole thing.... this is crazy people. we don't even get our 512 correctly. how come we keep hopes on a company like that? why don't this SLT people try and do something to hadel the traffic genrated by all its custormers more efficiantly? just try acsessing a site or two at the congested times...like when its 1.00pm - 4.00pm its damn slow! shit u SLT people should seriously consider improving this situvation before say that we are biggest in south asia... blahblahbalh shit! get some more bandwidth, and some good routers, skills, plans and improve the connectivity of the ADSL subsribers.

And then u can aim at the sky :-):angry:

[Anusha]

well i don't know how SLT works and how many stuff it have for it self but one thing is clear. u guys can start improving the service qulity of the couurent ADSL service given to your customers. i mean just look at the whole thing.... this is crazy people. we don't even get our 512 correctly. how come we keep hopes on a company like that? why don't this SLT people try and do something to hadel the traffic genrated by all its custormers more efficiantly? just try acsessing a site or two at the congested times...like when its 1.00pm - 4.00pm its damn slow! shit u SLT people should seriously consider improving this situvation before say that we are biggest in south asia... blahblahbalh shit! get some more bandwidth, and some good routers, skills, plans and improve the connectivity of the ADSL subsribers.

And then u can aim at the sky :-):angry:
512kBps is the maximum. OK. No company in the world gives the full bandwidth. When more users are using ADSL, it will slow down. This is the deal they have with the international ISP(s).

You can always access local sites at full speed, if the servers are fast enough.

I have a friend in Australia who has a ADSL2+ connection, from iiNet. They provide the fastest connection speeds there. Even if he uses private torrents, with full of seeds, the maximum speed he can get is around 6Mbps. This is a 24Mbps connection btw.

[dineitdark]

512kBps is the maximum. OK. No company in the world gives the full bandwidth. When more users are using ADSL, it will slow down. This is the deal they have with the international ISP(s).

You can always access local sites at full speed, if the servers are fast enough.

I have a friend in Australia who has a ADSL2+ connection, from iiNet. They provide the fastest connection speeds there. Even if he uses private torrents, with full of seeds, the maximum speed he can get is around 6Mbps. This is a 24Mbps connection btw.

yea true, u can't expect them to give u full speed(512 in ma case). but sometime the connection is so slow. and by slow i mean slow!

Local sites are ok becasue the local ISPs are having a local network to exchange there traffic(not sure about this ? can anyone confirm? :-). but i still think that SLT should improve there speeds.

If u do a traceroute to google when its conegsted time(and u r using like... a half of ur bandwidth), u'll find that the SLT routers are droping ur packets! usually the ones in the 2,3,4 hops. i guess there are overwarhmed with traffic at that times or may be there are throttling our traffic...? well i don't know. but SLT can surely improve there ADSL thing.

[dineitdark]

512kBps is the maximum. OK. No company in the world gives the full bandwidth. When more users are using ADSL, it will slow down. This is the deal they have with the international ISP(s).

You can always access local sites at full speed, if the servers are fast enough.

I have a friend in Australia who has a ADSL2+ connection, from iiNet. They provide the fastest connection speeds there. Even if he uses private torrents, with full of seeds, the maximum speed he can get is around 6Mbps. This is a 24Mbps connection btw.

I guess ur friend can let some 4 torrents run at full speed simulteniously, making use of the full bandwidth. but then he'll have to find a storage solution :-) man..... i can't even imagin that much of bandwidth. will we be ever able to get that much speed at our homes? oh... just imagin 24Mbps !@%^&$!& in srilanka... well its just a dream... but may be not who knows...

[Anusha]

I guess ur friend can let some 4 torrents run at full speed simulteniously, making use of the full bandwidth. but then he'll have to find a storage solution :-) man..... i can't even imagin that much of bandwidth. will we be ever able to get that much speed at our homes? oh... just imagin 24Mbps !@%^&$!& in srilanka... well its just a dream... but may be not who knows...
You think he's only downloading one torrent at a time? :rolleyes:
He has more than 1TB of HDD space. And you know what, he can only download 20GB per month. We can download 80GB+ with a 512k connection. So what do you think it better? More data or speed?

SLT will give ADSL2+ once they get the approval from TRC. I heard that they have already done the testing. The speeds will be more than 10Mbps. Anyway, I have no idea about the tariffs. Surely a quota system will come into play.

[The_Ace]

AFAIK, SLT already has ADSL2. I have a friend who has a SLT ADSL 20 (or is it 10?) mbps DL speed and he had that connection for more than 2 years now..

[Anusha]

AFAIK, SLT already has ADSL2. I have a friend who has a SLT ADSL 20 (or is it 10?) mbps DL speed and he had that connection for more than 2 years now..
Nope. SLT doesn't have ADSL2+.

[The_Ace]

is ADSL2 != ADSL2+ ?

[Anusha]

is ADSL2 != ADSL2+ ?
There isn't anything called ADSL2. It's either ADSL or ADSL2+. :)

[mlakmal]

There isn't anything called ADSL2. It's either ADSL or ADSL2+. :)


:yes: :yes: :yes:

[The_Ace]

There isn't anything called ADSL2. It's either ADSL or ADSL2+. :)
ah! I see. Learnt something new today..

[Anusha]

ah! I see. Learnt something new today..
:lol:

[dineitdark]

You think he's only downloading one torrent at a time? :rolleyes:
He has more than 1TB of HDD space. And you know what, he can only download 20GB per month. We can download 80GB+ with a 512k connection. So what do you think it better? More data or speed?

SLT will give ADSL2+ once they get the approval from TRC. I heard that they have already done the testing. The speeds will be more than 10Mbps. Anyway, I have no idea about the tariffs. Surely a quota system will come into play.

i hate quotas or anything related to em... so yea sure 512 with no limits is better for me cause i'm on 24/7. but for a regular user i guess some good speed with quota is better. hmmm ADSL2+ good... what about the wimax thing? i guess there is something wrong with the permission for them to do that... but anyways i get some info on my router about my connection(stuff that it auto detect i guess...) and it says ADSL2 :-) well yeah i know it must be some wrong guess or something... i wonder whether SLT's old telephone lines can support the speeds...? some lines have too much noice and stuff. well i would like to see an alternative wireless ISP popping up in srilanka... it will give more possibilities and more speeds(....?...)....

and then SLT will have some competition from someone... some real competition so then we users would get a higher quality service for cheaper rates.....

[Anusha]

SLT's old telephone lines can support ADSL2+ speeds, unless your line has a problem or you are too far away from the switch.

[dineitdark]

yea old/plain telephone lines can support ADSL2+ ... but what i wanted say is that some lines which are pretty old are having noise(means damaged lines and stuff i guess?) so that makes good speeds impossible. im near my exchange(like i can walk to that thing within 20 minutes :-), but when i first took ADSL, my connection was so poor that i had to call the SLT people and complain them(and they diverted me to some other person and like that you know...) and finally when they arrived at my place they could not find any problem with the telephone line... but when they left the place they have spotted some broken(half broken...) wire and they fixed it. and then my ADSL was ok. most of the wiring around out was replaced but not ours for some resone, well thats what they told us, who knows :-)

but if somebody start giving wireless there would be no such problems. but yeah then they will face different problems... and it seems that all the wireless ISP solutions that exists withing srilanka are pretty expensive. and that too bad...

[Anusha]

The problem with companies other than SLT is that they have to purchase internation bandwidth from SLT or use satellites (which is very expensive). Therefore, SLT will still have the monopoly in broadband services.

[charmer]

Dear SLT Customers,

Dont mind the line, just enjoy the service. :D :D

[Anusha]

Dear SLT Customers,

Dont mind the line, just enjoy the service. :D :D
Well, that's what matters to us, right?
I don't know about you guys, but to our house, 8Mbps is attainable.

[dineitdark]

hmmm thats bad i mean a monopoly is always bad isn't it? at least most of the time its bad... so all these sea-me... fiber optic cables that go through SL are administered by the SLT? oh then of course they have a monopoly... so yeah you are right then its hard to battle em... may be some other company can participate in some new sea-me... kind of line that goes near SL... so it would brake the monopoly... Satellite connectivity have more latency i guess so i don't think it can out perform the fiber lines... hmmm... isn't there any other way?

The problem with companies other than SLT is that they have to purchase internation bandwidth from SLT or use satellites (which is very expensive). Therefore, SLT will still have the monopoly in broadband services.

[dineitdark]

well im a SLT customer and i do enjoy there service but they can improve... anyways without them we would have no ADSL, that means no good connectivity for the average(?) user, so thanks for the service SLT :D

Dear SLT Customers,

Dont mind the line, just enjoy the service. :D :D

[Anusha]

hmmm thats bad i mean a monopoly is always bad isn't it? at least most of the time its bad... so all these sea-me... fiber optic cables that go through SL are administered by the SLT? oh then of course they have a monopoly... so yeah you are right then its hard to battle em... may be some other company can participate in some new sea-me... kind of line that goes near SL... so it would brake the monopoly... Satellite connectivity have more latency i guess so i don't think it can out perform the fiber lines... hmmm... isn't there any other way?
Those cables are not jsut administered by them. It's more that that. They OWN them!!!

I don't think other companies can do that. Almost half of SLT is owned by the government. The government can't take chances by giving the control of such a cable to a private company.

No, there isn't any other way. It's either optical fibre or microwave. Microwave can't go more than 155Mbps. SMW-4 cable's bandwidth is 2.5Tbps (and SLT can use 10Gbps of bandwidth out of it)

[dineitdark]

well i guess there are about 3, 4 cables that goes through our country? so letting a another company help build a another one wont just do anything bad right? i mean the whole country is not depending on that company... i guess SLT kind of jointly own them with other companies in other countries near us? hmmm... know what SLT have most of there routes congested in the day time... i mean you can browse web and all that but.... the responsiveness of the n/w segments in SLT and all the backbone providers attached to them are very high... compared to other ISPs in other countries(developed of course...).. and the packet loss is about 30 -20 % which is kinda bad...

how costly are those microwave links? i mean if they are not that costly someone may be able to put up a dozen x 1000..etc of them and get connected to the rest of the world... i mean through the countries near us....

Those cables are not jsut administered by them. It's more that that. They OWN them!!!

I don't think other companies can do that. Almost half of SLT is owned by the government. The government can't take chances by giving the control of such a cable to a private company.

No, there isn't any other way. It's either optical fibre or microwave. Microwave can't go more than 155Mbps. SMW-4 cable's bandwidth is 2.5Tbps (and SLT can use 10Gbps of bandwidth out of it)

[Anusha]

well i guess there are about 3, 4 cables that goes through our country? so letting a another company help build a another one wont just do anything bad right? i mean the whole country is not depending on that company... i guess SLT kind of jointly own them with other companies in other countries near us? hmmm... know what SLT have most of there routes congested in the day time... i mean you can browse web and all that but.... the responsiveness of the n/w segments in SLT and all the backbone providers attached to them are very high... compared to other ISPs in other countries(developed of course...).. and the packet loss is about 30 -20 % which is kinda bad...

how costly are those microwave links? i mean if they are not that costly someone may be able to put up a dozen x 1000..etc of them and get connected to the rest of the world... i mean through the countries near us....
Yes, of course SLT only owns the part that comes up to Sri Lanka (it's just a branch from the main cable)

There are only two cables used for Sri Lankan calls/data traffic.

Why the speeds are low, has nothing to do with the backbone network. There is more than enough bandwidth in the network.

Satellites are very expensive. Even SLT can afford to give few Mbps for 24/7 connectivity.

[lasanka]

ah .. i hope alt does somethin to improve connections soon

[Anusha]

ah .. i hope alt does somethin to improve connections soon
Ok you hope. That's the only thing you can do :P

[GNS]

Ok you hope. That's the only thing you can do :P

Apoi...
Cha Max...

[SAN_APIIT]

Well there is a way to do it...

Find a option in your router called connection type(in usrobotics it's in the wan->atm1). set it to be as trigered by traffic or always connected. and one easy way to reconnect rather then restarting a router is to ping to a site. goto run type cmd and in the console type "ping www.google.com" this will force the router to reconnect.(set connection type to be as triggered by traffic).

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