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CoolCartoon
05-16-2008, 05:36 AM
What you guys think about our education system??? is it ok or need to change ??

as my view...

there are significiant number of students drop out after O/L. After that they dont have a place to go. They may failed exam ( O/L ) cuz they dont have enough talent to these traditional exams. But they may good at some other fields.Like mechanical or whatever. But there are very few places in SL for those people. (Jerman Tec.. ). Sri lanka should make some more training schools for un common fields like that.

even after u Pass the O/L u have to face a dilemma in choosing the A/L stream due to unforeseeable future that looms after the A/L examination and many mismatches in the system.
and the English. A/L stream should be 75% english.cuz after ur AL whatebver u gonna do u have to do English mediam. most of student face problems when this change.

Kalindugayan
05-16-2008, 07:38 AM
mamanan english medium A/L karanne

rash87
05-16-2008, 08:33 AM
Good topic Janith:D

Well education system in SL was subjected many debates in the past decade or two. he education system of Sl was recognized to be one of the best prevailed in the whole world. The degrees which were passed out from the universities (I am referring to the degrees such as BSc. Eng., B.Arch. etc.) were highly recommended by the authorities all around the world, unlike the most of the degrees bestowed by Indian universities. The education system prevailing in the university system has not been a problem to my consideration up to now.:yes:
As Janith mentioned it is the educational system prevailing in the Primary & Secondary level. Although people in the high seats of Educational authorities boast about we having a literacy of over 90%, the educational level of SL is decreasing day by day as the stas revealed in the percentage of students fails in Mathematics & English. It is a shame that to keep the curve to the standard, the passed level of Mathematics is always decreased. Rather than trying to uplift the condition of the students, to boast to the world, the easiest method been adopted is bringing down the pass level.
The syllabus of the Secondary level is been changed so rapidly in the past few years. Focusing more on the A/L stream; Math (sorry I did Math & will be easier for me to speak about it:)) the standard of an modern A/L student & A/L student back in 1960s, 70s' are completely different. But ht e sympathetic situation is that the difference has occured in the wrong way. Especially with combining Pure Math & Applied Math to one subject has resulted in dropping off good quality theories in the both stream. Differencial Calculation is one area which is been dropped & an area which an engineering student is essential to be in knowledgeable with. Like wise there are many more to be talked about.
But as there are cons, there are few pros too in the new syllabus. Physics certainly has picked up its standard as the subject is renewed with all the modern Physics theories. Chemistry seems to have kept in the same level.
Focusing on O/L stream, the biggest complaint by the A/L teachers is that proper linkage or relationship is not been created by the prevailing O/L system. The Math subject is not merely enough for a student who is willing to do in Math stream in A/Ls. Therefore A/L teachers have to do a bridging lectures before they start A/L work.
Another issue that Janith has mentioned is English. Well that always been a problem since he British dominance ended. As for a solution, the qualification levels for an English teacher must be changed. A person with a credit pass can apply for the English teaching post & majority of the English teachers are of that caliper. Getting Distinction in English has become a reality & a much easier job than it was in the past. Anyone who can by heart few essays & letters are capable of doing that. Therefore O/L Credit pass should not be the qualification level for a English teacher. Other thing which Janith has mentioned about converting A/L subjects to English medium is not an easy task, although after A/L most of the higher studies are done in English medium. This particular thing have to be handled very sensitively;)
Other thing about more technical colleges in SL, well....it has certain issues as with lot of political forces, Student forces colliding with each other. That paricular topic has to be given a seperate comment.;) (I'll comment on that later;):)
Well this is the prevailing situation of SL educational system according to my knowledge.
More to talk about the issue & more comments to be expected to come;):)

ravicplk
05-16-2008, 08:49 AM
as Rash said from the olevels to alevels there isnt any link. that seems to be a big problem.but now they have changed the olevel syllabus and for the olevels now students are doing some good stuff. in the new olevel syllabus the science section is divided in to some parts like chemistry and biology. and i think it is a good move.
and from the content basis, they have added some new things to olevels.
as mentioned before in this thread after ALevel a significant number of students leave the school not knowing what to do. but with the basic English knowledge and with 3S s in alevel, they can do whole lot of things..so in order to do that English and 3S s in alevel is a must.

Asitha-K
05-16-2008, 09:22 AM
What you guys think about our education system??? is it ok or need to change ??

as my view...

there are significiant number of students drop out after O/L. After that they dont have a place to go. They may failed exam ( O/L ) cuz they dont have enough talent to these traditional exams. But they may good at some other fields.Like mechanical or whatever. But there are very few places in SL for those people. (Jerman Tec.. ). Sri lanka should make some more training schools for un common fields like that.

even after u Pass the O/L u have to face a dilemma in choosing the A/L stream due to unforeseeable future that looms after the A/L examination and many mismatches in the system.
and the English. A/L stream should be 75% english.cuz after ur AL whatebver u gonna do u have to do English mediam. most of student face problems when this change.
Yes Our education System needs to change!

Problems In our education system

Its not Updated
Most of the stuff are irrelevent
More Theory than Practical stuff
It doesn't Match with the Job Market
Unsuccessful ness of Student Centered Education System
Not haveing a proper Education Policy(A National Education Policy)
Weak Management
Different treatment for different province
Lack of Motivation
Proper solutions (according to the list)

Keep Updated ... Let the children use internet and wikipedia and
Stuff and disscusss what happens globelly inside the classs , and keep the
syllabus upto date


Irrelevent StuffUse some education specialsts and child psycologists and disscuss what kind of
things shoud this children learn... It's not nesessory to learn Same
mathamathical lesson in 8 grade and 9 grade...


More theory than PracticalStudents learn about rubber industry and growth of the industry and stuff but
some of them has never evn saw a rubber tree... so using the multimedia
facilities.. and use more practical things as relevent


Dosn't Match with the job marketYes and it is.. i think that there should be more updated so then it'll match the job market...
Specially i like ur idea about making A/L more english friendly...


Weaknesses Student Centered Education SystemStudent Centered education system is the best but it doesnt work properly
because still teachers don't implement this...
Let the student learn don't teach them is the basic idea of it!
But if there's no motivation inside students they will not learn....
"Getherin ewanawata iskole ena nisa"


Education PolicyAs the govenment change the policy change colour the text books in the colour
of thir Party! (:angry:Gon Stuff:no:)
And change the all education system a country should have plan their future
generation! These policys must made by expets not Polititions


Weak managementNothing to tell about this....
Stop politics in our education system
O/L walata masa 5k thiyeddi class teacher wa maru karanawa anith party ekata support kala kiyala :no:


Different Treatment for different provincesApe A/L class eke machang desk and chairs 15 withara maasa gaaanak
duwili kaka thibba lankawe kochchara iskola wela eka desk eke lamai denna gane
Igenagannawa ethi da?
In Royal(Not my skul , I heard) there's a overload of teachers!!!
I mean too much techers then they want!!!


Motivaton - I told it early in Student centerd education system>Machang this problems might be more deep than it seems!<
These are just my thoughts

earthling
05-16-2008, 12:31 PM
What about the Introduction of the English Medium to r education system ? Some of my cousins are taking A/L in the English medium & complains about the lack of teaches, material & even proper tution classes...

any thoughts on this as well ?

supun75
05-16-2008, 01:03 PM
Good topic Janith:D

Well education system in SL was subjected many debates in the past decade or two. he education system of Sl was recognized to be one of the best prevailed in the whole world. The degrees which were passed out from the universities (I am referring to the degrees such as BSc. Eng., B.Arch. etc.) were highly recommended by the authorities all around the world, unlike the most of the degrees bestowed by Indian universities. The education system prevailing in the university system has not been a problem to my consideration up to now.:yes:
As Janith mentioned it is the educational system prevailing in the Primary & Secondary level. Although people in the high seats of Educational authorities boast about we having a literacy of over 90%, the educational level of SL is decreasing day by day as the stas revealed in the percentage of students fails in Mathematics & English. It is a shame that to keep the curve to the standard, the passed level of Mathematics is always decreased. Rather than trying to uplift the condition of the students, to boast to the world, the easiest method been adopted is bringing down the pass level.
The syllabus of the Secondary level is been changed so rapidly in the past few years. Focusing more on the A/L stream; Math (sorry I did Math & will be easier for me to speak about it:)) the standard of an modern A/L student & A/L student back in 1960s, 70s' are completely different. But ht e sympathetic situation is that the difference has occured in the wrong way. Especially with combining Pure Math & Applied Math to one subject has resulted in dropping off good quality theories in the both stream. Differencial Calculation is one area which is been dropped & an area which an engineering student is essential to be in knowledgeable with. Like wise there are many more to be talked about.
But as there are cons, there are few pros too in the new syllabus. Physics certainly has picked up its standard as the subject is renewed with all the modern Physics theories. Chemistry seems to have kept in the same level.
Focusing on O/L stream, the biggest complaint by the A/L teachers is that proper linkage or relationship is not been created by the prevailing O/L system. The Math subject is not merely enough for a student who is willing to do in Math stream in A/Ls. Therefore A/L teachers have to do a bridging lectures before they start A/L work.
Another issue that Janith has mentioned is English. Well that always been a problem since he British dominance ended. As for a solution, the qualification levels for an English teacher must be changed. A person with a credit pass can apply for the English teaching post & majority of the English teachers are of that caliper. Getting Distinction in English has become a reality & a much easier job than it was in the past. Anyone who can by heart few essays & letters are capable of doing that. Therefore O/L Credit pass should not be the qualification level for a English teacher. Other thing which Janith has mentioned about converting A/L subjects to English medium is not an easy task, although after A/L most of the higher studies are done in English medium. This particular thing have to be handled very sensitively;)
Other thing about more technical colleges in SL, well....it has certain issues as with lot of political forces, Student forces colliding with each other. That paricular topic has to be given a seperate comment.;) (I'll comment on that later;):)
Well this is the prevailing situation of SL educational system according to my knowledge.
More to talk about the issue & more comments to be expected to come;):)



Well actually I think our O/ls has a poor standard. The only subject that had a high standard was Electronics for the Technical Subject and now they have taken that out of the system too.
And I also think that the whole chemistry syllabus is not needed for student who is doing math. Recent research at the Moratuwa university shows that only 6% of the current chemistry syllabus is needed for a student who is doing engineering at the Moratuwa university.
And what subject has the most impact on the z score of a math student? CHEMISTRY!!!!!!!!!!!

I think the authorities should restrict the syllabus of Chemistry for a Math student and they should restrict the Physics syllabus for Bio students.
Would a doctor will ever need the knowledge of electronics and electricity when is doing a surgery??????

MagmificentROO
05-16-2008, 01:08 PM
apoooooooo eka ganna deyak na

yasiru1
05-16-2008, 01:27 PM
a/l walin campus yanna bariunoth lankawe karanna dewal adui

rash87
05-16-2008, 01:45 PM
Well actually I think our O/ls has a poor standard. The only subject that had a high standard was Electronics for the Technical Subject and now they have taken that out of the system too.
And I also think that the whole chemistry syllabus is not needed for student who is doing math. Recent research at the Moratuwa university shows that only 6% of the current chemistry syllabus is needed for a student who is doing engineering at the Moratuwa university.
And what subject has the most impact on the z score of a math student? CHEMISTRY!!!!!!!!!!!

I think the authorities should restrict the syllabus of Chemistry for a Math student and they should restrict the Physics syllabus for Bio students.
Would a doctor will ever need the knowledge of electronics and electricity when is doing a surgery??????
I'll comment on the one which are bolted:D

Well about Chemistry, yes it is not that necessary as other 2 subjects for engineering students, but it is not only Engineering a Math student can get to;) Other thing is Industrial Chemistry & Inorganic Chemistry is needed heavily along with Organic Chemistry if u r a Chemical Engineer, which is a nother type of Engineering field found in Moratuwa University;):)

Restricting Chemistry to Math students is a foolish thing. As I mentioned about the acedemics purpose of the subject in above para, Chemsistry is a subject which will help to understand about nature in a scientific way, which is the whole basic idea of a Science student(both Math & Bio)
U question about the importance of Electronic & Electrical knowledge for bio students(doctors).Well have u ever come across a field called Micro Biology. Nuero surgents uses their Electrical & Electronic knowledge for their work;):)
Questioning about the need of Physics to a bio student is worthless!:)

Well about the Z score... well what I have got to say is that it is a complete myth. Z score is all depended on statistical basis;) I think u r a Math student & must have a idea about the way the Z score is calculated;):) It is one of the most justifiable methods of deciding in a comparable manner. If the Chemistry subjectt is hard for everyone & majority fails, then the median will come down. There is no particular scene like that & the subject that influence more in Z score is Physics. If anyone can score over 80 or about in Physics, he/she will recieve a high Z score;):)

supun75
05-16-2008, 01:59 PM
I'll comment on the one which are bolted:D

Well about Chemistry, yes it is not that necessary as other 2 subjects for engineering students, but it is not only Engineering a Math student can get to;) Other thing is Industrial Chemistry & Inorganic Chemistry is needed heavily along with Organic Chemistry if u r a Chemical Engineer, which is a nother type of Engineering field found in Moratuwa University;):)

Restricting Chemistry to Math students is a foolish thing. As I mentioned about the acedemics purpose of the subject in above para, Chemsistry is a subject which will help to understand about nature in a scientific way, which is the whole basic idea of a Science student(both Math & Bio)
U question about the importance of Electronic & Electrical knowledge for bio students(doctors).Well have u ever come across a field called Micro Biology. Nuero surgents uses their Electrical & Electronic knowledge for their work;):)
Questioning about the need of Physics to a bio student is worthless!:)






Well about the Z score... well what I have got to say is that it is a complete myth. Z score is all depended on statistical basis;) I think u r a Math student & must have a idea about the way the Z score is calculated;):) It is one of the most justifiable methods of deciding in a comparable manner. If the Chemistry subjectt is hard for everyone & majority fails, then the median will come down. There is no particular scene like that & the subject that influence more in Z score is Physics. If anyone can score over 80 or about in Physics, he/she will recieve a high Z score;):)



Are u saying that people who qualify to do micro biology are stupid?only a small number will qualify for that. And the knowledge that we gain at A'Ls can be learned at that point.
For ur information Chemical engineering is well taught at Moratuwa.I don't know whether u knew but a year or two ago some ppl tried to introduce electronics as a A-Level subject.Ppl who do math can ditch chemistry and they can only qulify for Electrical and Electronics,physics,maths in University.I think that is a great idea.They should categorize them like that.Its very complicated but for the sake of our country's fate they should have done that?

And its very widely known now as the subject which has the most impact on z score for math student CHEMISTRY i thought u knew that.The government statisticians have confirmed it too.

rash87
05-16-2008, 03:05 PM
Are u saying that people who qualify to do micro biology are stupid?only a small number will qualify for that. And the knowledge that we gain at A'Ls can be learned at that point.
For ur information Chemical engineering is well taught at Moratuwa.I don't know whether u knew but a year or two ago some ppl tried to introduce electronics as a A-Level subject.Ppl who do math can ditch chemistry and they can only qulify for Electrical and Electronics,physics,maths in University.I think that is a great idea.They should categorize them like that.Its very complicated but for the sake of our country's fate they should have done that?

And its very widely known now as the subject which has the most impact on z score for math student CHEMISTRY i thought u knew that.The government statisticians have confirmed it too.
:rolleyes: I never said anything like, what I said was pointing out the importance of Electronic for a bio student. U were the one who said Physics was not so important for a doctor:rolleyes: I wish u to be more responsible in telling something in this section, since this is Elakiri Pro section;):):yes:

Well I mentioned that Chemical Engineering is taught at Mora uni:rolleyes: Well there is another choice for Math students; Higher Math(included with the important subjects cut off from old syllabus when combining Pure Math & Applied Math) & bio students too with Agriculture;):)
About what u talk about university catergorizing, is it the Physical Special degree u r referring to?:confused:
May be my source of information got little array:rolleyes::P:rofl:
If u refer to Dr. Rosa's report, he has clearly mentioned about Z score scene. (Dr. Rosa is the official paper maker of the A/L Physics paper:))

CoolCartoon
05-16-2008, 03:16 PM
Good topic Janith:D

Well education system in SL was subjected many debates in the past decade or two. he education system of Sl was recognized to be one of the best prevailed in the whole world. The degrees which were passed out from the universities (I am referring to the degrees such as BSc. Eng., B.Arch. etc.) were highly recommended by the authorities all around the world, unlike the most of the degrees bestowed by Indian universities. The education system prevailing in the university system has not been a problem to my consideration up to now.:yes:
As Janith mentioned it is the educational system prevailing in the Primary & Secondary level. Although people in the high seats of Educational authorities boast about we having a literacy of over 90%, the educational level of SL is decreasing day by day as the stas revealed in the percentage of students fails in Mathematics & English. It is a shame that to keep the curve to the standard, the passed level of Mathematics is always decreased. Rather than trying to uplift the condition of the students, to boast to the world, the easiest method been adopted is bringing down the pass level.
The syllabus of the Secondary level is been changed so rapidly in the past few years. Focusing more on the A/L stream; Math (sorry I did Math & will be easier for me to speak about it:)) the standard of an modern A/L student & A/L student back in 1960s, 70s' are completely different. But ht e sympathetic situation is that the difference has occured in the wrong way. Especially with combining Pure Math & Applied Math to one subject has resulted in dropping off good quality theories in the both stream. Differencial Calculation is one area which is been dropped & an area which an engineering student is essential to be in knowledgeable with. Like wise there are many more to be talked about.
But as there are cons, there are few pros too in the new syllabus. Physics certainly has picked up its standard as the subject is renewed with all the modern Physics theories. Chemistry seems to have kept in the same level.
Focusing on O/L stream, the biggest complaint by the A/L teachers is that proper linkage or relationship is not been created by the prevailing O/L system. The Math subject is not merely enough for a student who is willing to do in Math stream in A/Ls. Therefore A/L teachers have to do a bridging lectures before they start A/L work.
Another issue that Janith has mentioned is English. Well that always been a problem since he British dominance ended. As for a solution, the qualification levels for an English teacher must be changed. A person with a credit pass can apply for the English teaching post & majority of the English teachers are of that caliper. Getting Distinction in English has become a reality & a much easier job than it was in the past. Anyone who can by heart few essays & letters are capable of doing that. Therefore O/L Credit pass should not be the qualification level for a English teacher. Other thing which Janith has mentioned about converting A/L subjects to English medium is not an easy task, although after A/L most of the higher studies are done in English medium. This particular thing have to be handled very sensitively;)
Other thing about more technical colleges in SL, well....it has certain issues as with lot of political forces, Student forces colliding with each other. That paricular topic has to be given a seperate comment.;) (I'll comment on that later;):)
Well this is the prevailing situation of SL educational system according to my knowledge.
More to talk about the issue & more comments to be expected to come;):)


well bro. agree with u. Sri lankan degree's are well recognize degrees. still university edu sys are kk.

are you sure that anyone who have a credit pass can apply for english teaching ?? omg that is so stupid. how can be a person with credit pass gonna teach eng to someone. even if got a training.
It should be A pass in A/L. teaching is not a joke.

and ya...politics are the main problem in SL...they ruined our country. look at our universities. most of problems happening cuz of politics. that is a main reason to students to go abroad for higher education. same problem with technical stuffs. politics.

they dont wanna make devolop this country or education.

CoolCartoon
05-16-2008, 03:22 PM
Yes Our education System needs to change!

Problems In our education system

Its not Updated
Most of the stuff are irrelevent
More Theory than Practical stuff
It doesn't Match with the Job Market
Unsuccessful ness of Student Centered Education System
Not haveing a proper Education Policy(A National Education Policy)
Weak Management
Different treatment for different province
Lack of Motivation
Proper solutions (according to the list)

Keep Updated ... Let the children use internet and wikipedia and
Stuff and disscusss what happens globelly inside the classs , and keep the
syllabus upto date


Irrelevent StuffUse some education specialsts and child psycologists and disscuss what kind of
things shoud this children learn... It's not nesessory to learn Same
mathamathical lesson in 8 grade and 9 grade...


More theory than PracticalStudents learn about rubber industry and growth of the industry and stuff but
some of them has never evn saw a rubber tree... so using the multimedia
facilities.. and use more practical things as relevent


Dosn't Match with the job marketYes and it is.. i think that there should be more updated so then it'll match the job market...
Specially i like ur idea about making A/L more english friendly...


Weaknesses Student Centered Education SystemStudent Centered education system is the best but it doesnt work properly
because still teachers don't implement this...
Let the student learn don't teach them is the basic idea of it!
But if there's no motivation inside students they will not learn....
"Getherin ewanawata iskole ena nisa"


Education PolicyAs the govenment change the policy change colour the text books in the colour
of thir Party! (:angry:Gon Stuff:no:)
And change the all education system a country should have plan their future
generation! These policys must made by expets not Polititions


Weak managementNothing to tell about this....
Stop politics in our education system
O/L walata masa 5k thiyeddi class teacher wa maru karanawa anith party ekata support kala kiyala :no:


Different Treatment for different provincesApe A/L class eke machang desk and chairs 15 withara maasa gaaanak
duwili kaka thibba lankawe kochchara iskola wela eka desk eke lamai denna gane
Igenagannawa ethi da?
In Royal(Not my skul , I heard) there's a overload of teachers!!!
I mean too much techers then they want!!!


Motivaton - I told it early in Student centerd education system>Machang this problems might be more deep than it seems!<
These are just my thoughts




thanx bro. good post.




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Weaknesses Student Centered Education System[FONT=Tahoma]Student Centered education system is the best but it doesnt work properly
because still teachers don't implement this...
Let the student learn don't teach them is the basic idea of it!
But if there's no motivation inside students they will not learn....
"Getherin ewanawata iskole ena nisa"





in this case... if there are weak studetnts for maths or science or whatever...they have to have a way to identify there hidden talents.
there choices.what they wanna do.

they may like to work in mechanical field. may be some other field. they should identify that and send them to correct way.
gov should make new technical colleges.
in AUS most students start course in there field while they in high school. most of young people doing trade courses like vehicle painting, reapiring, etc....when they come to 20.. they fully qualified.
in SL.. " igena ganna bari nam uta gahala scolen elaway..eeta passe uth wala bahala ratata barak wenawa. "

rash87
05-16-2008, 03:22 PM
Yes Our education System needs to change!

Problems In our education system

Its not Updated
Most of the stuff are irrelevent
More Theory than Practical stuff
It doesn't Match with the Job Market
Unsuccessful ness of Student Centered Education System
Not haveing a proper Education Policy(A National Education Policy)
Weak Management
Different treatment for different province
Lack of Motivation
Proper solutions (according to the list)

Keep Updated ... Let the children use internet and wikipedia and
Stuff and disscusss what happens globelly inside the classs , and keep the
syllabus upto date


Irrelevent StuffUse some education specialsts and child psycologists and disscuss what kind of
things shoud this children learn... It's not nesessory to learn Same
mathamathical lesson in 8 grade and 9 grade...


More theory than PracticalStudents learn about rubber industry and growth of the industry and stuff but
some of them has never evn saw a rubber tree... so using the multimedia
facilities.. and use more practical things as relevent


Dosn't Match with the job marketYes and it is.. i think that there should be more updated so then it'll match the job market...
Specially i like ur idea about making A/L more english friendly...


Weaknesses Student Centered Education SystemStudent Centered education system is the best but it doesnt work properly
because still teachers don't implement this...
Let the student learn don't teach them is the basic idea of it!
But if there's no motivation inside students they will not learn....
"Getherin ewanawata iskole ena nisa"


Education PolicyAs the govenment change the policy change colour the text books in the colour
of thir Party! (:angry:Gon Stuff:no:)
And change the all education system a country should have plan their future
generation! These policys must made by expets not Polititions


Weak managementNothing to tell about this....
Stop politics in our education system
O/L walata masa 5k thiyeddi class teacher wa maru karanawa anith party ekata support kala kiyala :no:


Different Treatment for different provincesApe A/L class eke machang desk and chairs 15 withara maasa gaaanak
duwili kaka thibba lankawe kochchara iskola wela eka desk eke lamai denna gane
Igenagannawa ethi da?
In Royal(Not my skul , I heard) there's a overload of teachers!!!
I mean too much techers then they want!!!


Motivaton - I told it early in Student centerd education system>Machang this problems might be more deep than it seems!<
These are just my thoughts



Well it doesn't have to have complete change, just few modifications;)
About updating, yes may be updating rate is slow, but updating is not an easy process. Don't forget we are not a developed country (I don't like to use the word Developed but since for the better understading of everyone:)). We are engaged in a civil war which a high amount of budget is allocated for;)
Well other stuff u have talked about are not that relevant to Primary & Secondary education since, in the primary & Secondary education is used as more of as a bridge to the Tertiary level of education. Through Primary & Secondary education, the system is focusing on building a general work force. U can't expect everyone to hold a degree, be scientist, an engineer or doctor. There must be second level of work force too(I am truely sorry if I have unwillingly insult anyone, my pure intention was to distinguish the two work forces to show the difference:)).

Well about politics & stuff, as I mentioned in my first post, a big issue to talk over separately:yes: ;)

I am a Royalist my self but the accusation u r bringing is false:yes: :yes:
It's again a myth, where people tend to spread rumors that colleges like Royal have excess of teachers, they have only the best and so on like that. well it's no secret that Royal College known to one of the finest schools around world have quality teachers & adequate amount;) Even though u find teachers with high reputation in Royal College, the servise they give to skoo is just about same a so called non-reputed teacher gives;) It's only in their private classes they give out the best:yes: ;)

sw7x
05-16-2008, 03:23 PM
wadak na kisima practical bawak na
theory godak witarai
pitarata meke anik patta

CoolCartoon
05-16-2008, 03:23 PM
What about the Introduction of the English Medium to r education system ? Some of my cousins are taking A/L in the English medium & complains about the lack of teaches, material & even proper tution classes...

any thoughts on this as well ?

cuz of no proper plan to that. they didnt train teachers well. some one brought an idea. then they started. students got fuc***.

they should have proper plan. New books, good training.....etc.

" ada hithala heta mewa karanna be..."

CoolCartoon
05-16-2008, 03:25 PM
Well actually I think our O/ls has a poor standard. The only subject that had a high standard was Electronics for the Technical Subject and now they have taken that out of the system too.
And I also think that the whole chemistry syllabus is not needed for student who is doing math. Recent research at the Moratuwa university shows that only 6% of the current chemistry syllabus is needed for a student who is doing engineering at the Moratuwa university.
And what subject has the most impact on the z score of a math student? CHEMISTRY!!!!!!!!!!!

I think the authorities should restrict the syllabus of Chemistry for a Math student and they should restrict the Physics syllabus for Bio students.
Would a doctor will ever need the knowledge of electronics and electricity when is doing a surgery??????

machan.. chemistry is not much usefull for maths students. that is stupis thing that restrict it to tham. there should be a selection.

what the hell is this Z SCORE ??? ANYONE KNOW HOW THEY MAKE IT ??

CoolCartoon
05-16-2008, 03:39 PM
Well it doesn't have to have complete change, just few modifications;)
About updating, yes may be updating rate is slow, but updating is not an easy process. Don't forget we are not a developed country (I don't like to use the word Developed but since for the better understading of everyone:)). We are engaged in a civil war which a high amount of budget is allocated for;)
Well other stuff u have talked about are not that relevant to Primary & Secondary education since, in the primary & Secondary education is used as more of as a bridge to the Tertiary level of education. Through Primary & Secondary education, the system is focusing on building a general work force. U can't expect everyone to hold a degree, be scientist, an engineer or doctor. There must be second level of work force too(I am truely sorry if I have unwillingly insult anyone, my pure intention was to distinguish the two work forces to show the difference:)).

Well about politics & stuff, as I mentioned in my first post, a big issue to talk over separately:yes: ;)

I am a Royalist my self but the accusation u r bringing is false:yes: :yes:
It's again a myth, where people tend to spread rumors that colleges like Royal have excess of teachers, they have only the best and so on like that. well it's no secret that Royal College known to one of the finest schools around world have quality teachers & adequate amount;) Even though u find teachers with high reputation in Royal College, the servise they give to skoo is just about same a so called non-reputed teacher gives;) It's only in their private classes they give out the best:yes: ;)


machan this is bit off topic. but thought to say after see ur post.

when we are in grade 5... my teacher asked "" oyala loku unama kawru wennada kamathi " half said " doctor " other half " engineer " only 1 said " mama cricketer kenek wenawa "

that is the main idea in our society. doctor or engineer. no one trying to go for a another field.
if u try to do something different everyone may say no no dont do it...bla bla....

yanthama O/L pass unath maths or bio. then they got strucked with those streams. cuz those fields are too hard to them. then results is A/L fail.

some doing al maths bio...then after that cima, cim....lol... if u wanna become accountant or ... why u cant do commerce for A/L... CUZ our students dont have an idea about our job market. about society after A/L. they dng things with out propler aim. teachers not show them a way. cuz they also dnt knw. scole awilla ugannala yanawa. thats all most of times.
im not insulting. but thats what happen.

other thin is in our country there are high class jobs and low class jobs. class difference. then everyone trying to be doctors. why ? what abt nurses...attendents...dont we need them???



sorry about off topic.

englishpunk77
05-16-2008, 03:48 PM
The sl education system is better than england's. When my baby is old enough for school, we will live in sl permanently.

maleemsg
05-16-2008, 03:53 PM
mama nam kiyanne ape rate adyapanaya meeta wada godak diyunu wenna oni ..! mokada loketh ekka ape rata issarahata yanna anam ape rate lamainta meeta wada pracicale knowlage ekak thiyenne oni..!

Lankawe lamayek samanyen aurudu 11 mulinma skul yanawa..!oya mulu kalayema lamayek prayogika wa igana ganne hari aduwen anika kisima thereemak ne lamaya igana ganna kemathi akamethi hema deema balen hari ugannanawa..!

iita passe kohoma hari A/L walata giya kiyamuko ethakota lamainwa subjects tiakak ethule hira karanawa for eg:- sceincee karana lamayekuta art subject ekak karanna be..art karana lamayekuta maths subject ekak karanna be (samahara ewa puluwan unath thaman kemathi eka karanna be ewaye limites thiyanawa)
e aurudu deka athuledi lamayaketa prayogika denumak ne wedipura thiyenne poth kara paadam karana eka..!

iita passe uni yanan giyahama ekata admi. hamba wenne hari poddakata . salli thiyna wanam colombo hari kandy hari kittuwa nam wena institute ekakata join wela igana gana puluwan nethnam ithin job ekak thamai ...

ekata yanna beluwama mulinma hoyanna working experince thiyanwada kiyala aurudu 13 k eka pimme igana gaththu lamayek laga koheda experince kata padam karapu de erenna?

oya widiyata godak godaak then thiyanawa ape rate niweradi wenna..! hema thenatama deshapalanaya medihath wela ewa winasa karala thiyenne..andu maru wenna maaru wenna syllabus ekath wenas wenawa...ehema nethuwa hoda adyapana prathi paththiyak thiyenna oni ratakata! ekata oni karana sampath tika laba denna oni..! e wagema rate koi lamayatath eka widiyata igana ganna awasthawa lebenna oni.... anna edata ape rata miita wada sehenan diyunu wei..!

CoolCartoon
05-16-2008, 04:01 PM
The sl education system is better than england's. When my baby is old enough for school, we will live in sl permanently.


what make u to tell that sl edu sys is better than eng ??

it is more complicated and full of work. as i know it is better. but the problem is higher edu in O/L AND A/L . those subjects not directed them to job market. those are just ordinary stuff most of times. if u want to do something in trades field no uise of following them. u knw wat i mean. and englisgh edu is not much good.

CoolCartoon
05-16-2008, 04:11 PM
mama nam kiyanne ape rate adyapanaya meeta wada godak diyunu wenna oni ..! mokada loketh ekka ape rata issarahata yanna anam ape rate lamainta meeta wada pracicale knowlage ekak thiyenne oni..!

Lankawe lamayek samanyen aurudu 11 mulinma skul yanawa..!oya mulu kalayema lamayek prayogika wa igana ganne hari aduwen anika kisima thereemak ne lamaya igana ganna kemathi akamethi hema deema balen hari ugannanawa..!

iita passe kohoma hari A/L walata giya kiyamuko ethakota lamainwa subjects tiakak ethule hira karanawa for eg:- sceincee karana lamayekuta art subject ekak karanna be..art karana lamayekuta maths subject ekak karanna be (samahara ewa puluwan unath thaman kemathi eka karanna be ewaye limites thiyanawa)
e aurudu deka athuledi lamayaketa prayogika denumak ne wedipura thiyenne poth kara paadam karana eka..!

iita passe uni yanan giyahama ekata admi. hamba wenne hari poddakata . salli thiyna wanam colombo hari kandy hari kittuwa nam wena institute ekakata join wela igana gana puluwan nethnam ithin job ekak thamai ...

ekata yanna beluwama mulinma hoyanna working experince thiyanwada kiyala aurudu 13 k eka pimme igana gaththu lamayek laga koheda experince kata padam karapu de erenna?

oya widiyata godak godaak then thiyanawa ape rate niweradi wenna..! hema thenatama deshapalanaya medihath wela ewa winasa karala thiyenne..andu maru wenna maaru wenna syllabus ekath wenas wenawa...ehema nethuwa hoda adyapana prathi paththiyak thiyenna oni ratakata! ekata oni karana sampath tika laba denna oni..! e wagema rate koi lamayatath eka widiyata igana ganna awasthawa lebenna oni.... anna edata ape rata miita wada sehenan diyunu wei..!

ow athathama aththa.

lamaya kamathida akamathida neme ohe ugannawa.uata therunath ekay nathath ekay. pothe danuma witharay. practically kisi deyak dan ne.samajaya gana awabodayak ne. O/L walin passe aniwaryen A/L pass unoth. naththam uta yana ena man ne.

O/L walin passe wedi dura igena ganna kamathi ayata eyala kamathi field ekakata yomu karanna weda piliwelak thiyenna one. wedi dura igena ganna ayta A/L.

thaman kamathi field ekaka job ekakta gov eken eyalawa yomu karala traioning ekak deela eyalata qualifications wath hadala denna widiye weda piliwelak thibbanam hoday. it is not practically easy but....

tharuksha123
05-16-2008, 04:18 PM
katha karala wedak naa..

maleemsg
05-16-2008, 04:21 PM
ow athathama aththa.

lamaya kamathida akamathida neme ohe ugannawa.uata therunath ekay nathath ekay. pothe danuma witharay. practically kisi deyak dan ne.samajaya gana awabodayak ne. O/L walin passe aniwaryen A/L pass unoth. naththam uta yana ena man ne.

O/L walin passe wedi dura igena ganna kamathi ayata eyala kamathi field ekakata yomu karanna weda piliwelak thiyenna one. wedi dura igena ganna ayta A/L.

thaman kamathi field ekaka job ekakta gov eken eyalawa yomu karala traioning ekak deela eyalata qualifications wath hadala denna widiye weda piliwelak thibbanam hoday. it is not practically easy but....

ow eka thamai.. ekko skul period eke dima eka hadala denna oni.. lamaita 2 wenakan newei 5 wenakan hari thiyagena awashya de e lamainta denna oni.. ape rate wenen 1.30 wenakan kata padam karawala iita passe ath erala daanawa madi paduwa tusion class eeken igana ganin kiyala...e welawa lamaya iskole thiyagena podi practicle tikak kala nam lamaya kawada hari iita wada prayojanayak ganii

wede patan ganan eka lesii ne thamai eth amaruwen hari kaloth ape rate anagathyatama thamai..!:yes: ;)

x-pert
05-16-2008, 05:46 PM
Can't say that the current system is bad. Coz in US, UK, nd Aus even they concider Ari Lankan A/Ls as a really good qualification. Basically it has got status/ recognition more than London A/Ls.

Can't say good as well. Because the subjects don't comply with the job market.

I mean, iskole gihin iwara unahama eliyata enne noyek dewal gana podda podda danna namuth kisima deyak hariyata danne nathi kattiyakne....

Nothing can be done at the O/L and A/L stage as per my thinking.

But what SL do is to open-up some vocational training institutes. Like Tafe in Australia.

Premadasa pradeshiya vishwawidyaala kiyala patan gaththe oya concept eka thamai mata pena widihata. Namuth dan eeka hariyata wenawada kiyala nam danne naha....

Education system must focus more on the career paths mainly.

DJ.Parker
05-16-2008, 07:48 PM
Can't say that the current system is bad. Coz in US, UK, nd Aus even they concider Ari Lankan A/Ls as a really good qualification. Basically it has got status/ recognition more than London A/Ls.

Can't say good as well. Because the subjects don't comply with the job market.

I mean, iskole gihin iwara unahama eliyata enne noyek dewal gana podda podda danna namuth kisima deyak hariyata danne nathi kattiyakne....

Nothing can be done at the O/L and A/L stage as per my thinking.

But what SL do is to open-up some vocational training institutes. Like Tafe in Australia.

Premadasa pradeshiya vishwawidyaala kiyala patan gaththe oya concept eka thamai mata pena widihata. Namuth dan eeka hariyata wenawada kiyala nam danne naha....

Education system must focus more on the career paths mainly.

y cant v change the system in OL or AL stage as u say?
well at least they can try by reducing holidays n try building the practical side of children ne....

x-pert
05-17-2008, 06:44 AM
y cant v change the system in OL or AL stage as u say?
well at least they can try by reducing holidays n try building the practical side of children ne....

What do you mean by practical side machang? Any example?


Well.. I said like that because now the students are used to the current "girawa" learning method.

And there will be a shortage of teachers if they change the system...

But I've seen some goodness in the current system with the introduction of assignments etc. (But don't know whether they are there anymore?)

Can anybody define "Change of system"? What do you mean by that?

darshanarc
05-17-2008, 08:16 AM
ape Edu system ekada?:baffled: :baffled: :baffled: :baffled: maaarai....:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: kiyala wadak naa....:P :P :P :P

*Vidz*
05-17-2008, 08:20 AM
well..evntho it has lots f weaknesses..still...
v hve standerd education system..
specially...our univrsiti degrees r rankin evn n USA...evntho dey r against British system..datz bcuz v hve standerd n hard educatin system,...bt it has 2 be improved...

rash87
05-17-2008, 01:30 PM
What do you mean by practical side machang? Any example?


Well.. I said like that because now the students are used to the current "girawa" learning method.

And there will be a shortage of teachers if they change the system...

But I've seen some goodness in the current system with the introduction of assignments etc. (But don't know whether they are there anymore?)

Can anybody define "Change of system"? What do you mean by that?
Well this era in Science field is over:yes:
Don't about the other fields, but in modern days the questions are basically like u say the theory & then they check the apply knowledge of it. What u need is the basics, the evolution, explaining further more, student basically have to know, what made the person who found the theory made him come to in grip with;) (But not all the questions though:dull: :nerd: )

This is there, the assignment activity, but the functioning of it is more corrupted than the SL cabinet;):P

Well I'm no real expert to define this, but what it means in generally is that, convention in the prevailing system. The prevailing system is Student Centerd Studying system. Other than that the the attitudes of the students, parents, teachers etc. There is strong myth ghosting tha son has to become an engineer or doctor in profession to be a successful man and so. The alternatives are been dumped. This is another meaning for the change of system:D

CoolCartoon
05-17-2008, 01:42 PM
Can't say that the current system is bad. Coz in US, UK, nd Aus even they concider Ari Lankan A/Ls as a really good qualification. Basically it has got status/ recognition more than London A/Ls.

Can't say good as well. Because the subjects don't comply with the job market.

I mean, iskole gihin iwara unahama eliyata enne noyek dewal gana podda podda danna namuth kisima deyak hariyata danne nathi kattiyakne....

Nothing can be done at the O/L and A/L stage as per my thinking.

But what SL do is to open-up some vocational training institutes. Like Tafe in Australia.

Premadasa pradeshiya vishwawidyaala kiyala patan gaththe oya concept eka thamai mata pena widihata. Namuth dan eeka hariyata wenawada kiyala nam danne naha....

Education system must focus more on the career paths mainly.


na macho they can do some changes in O/L A/L stages as well. they can change the contents mainly focus with job market and more practical stuff and english. i think if they can convert whole A/L studies to english medium that will be a better isead for future.

and ya machan like TAFE.. we have to have vocatinal training centers.

now after O/L if u fail the xm u dnt have any choice. if there is training schools like that they can go to them and make their carrer in future.

DJ.Parker
05-17-2008, 02:52 PM
What do you mean by practical side machang? Any example?


Well.. I said like that because now the students are used to the current "girawa" learning method.

And there will be a shortage of teachers if they change the system...

But I've seen some goodness in the current system with the introduction of assignments etc. (But don't know whether they are there anymore?)

Can anybody define "Change of system"? What do you mean by that?

practicle side as in having workshops and may be giving probation periods? (part time jobs would be hard to introduce cos of so called ethics)

no men assignments r nt functioning well:)

supun75
05-17-2008, 03:02 PM
:rolleyes: I never said anything like, what I said was pointing out the importance of Electronic for a bio student. U were the one who said Physics was not so important for a doctor:rolleyes: I wish u to be more responsible in telling something in this section, since this is Elakiri Pro section;):):yes:

Well I mentioned that Chemical Engineering is taught at Mora uni:rolleyes: Well there is another choice for Math students; Higher Math(included with the important subjects cut off from old syllabus when combining Pure Math & Applied Math) & bio students too with Agriculture;):)
About what u talk about university catergorizing, is it the Physical Special degree u r referring to?:confused:
May be my source of information got little array:rolleyes::P:rofl:
If u refer to Dr. Rosa's report, he has clearly mentioned about Z score scene. (Dr. Rosa is the official paper maker of the A/L Physics paper:))



ok first of all Dr Rosa is Not the official paper maker of the Physics paper.ITs Prof Ariyarathne.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

U r not supporting ur earlier points. U said earlier that Physics is needed for doctors because of the fact some get the chance to study micro biology or whatever it is. And physics is needed to study that. Well my point is that they can learn the little bit of physics we do @ A/l’s at that stage.U think the knowledge we gain abt Physics at A/Ls is so great?Well I did Electronics for O/ls machang and I learnt much more about Electronics and Electricity than The A’levels.

My point is a student who is so great at maths can be more handy for the country if his time is spent more learning maths.Its a complete waste of time for him to learn the inorganic reactions which are even not explained how they happen at the A/L stage.Its like studying literature. May be u did not study Maths For A/Ls .
Ever heard of Calculus? Its even needed for bio students at the campus.I think it might be worth for the math students if they study more math than chemistry.
And the z score system is not even transparent anybody who is placed higher in education department can bamboozle it .

Thilinacba
05-17-2008, 04:12 PM
well imo education in SL sucks....and also making sinhala the government language is a mistake too,very big one

x-pert
05-17-2008, 08:43 PM
Well this era in Science field is over:yes:
Don't about the other fields, but in modern days the questions are basically like u say the theory & then they check the apply knowledge of it. What u need is the basics, the evolution, explaining further more, student basically have to know, what made the person who found the theory made him come to in grip with;) (But not all the questions though:dull: :nerd: )

This is there, the assignment activity, but the functioning of it is more corrupted than the SL cabinet;):P

Well I'm no real expert to define this, but what it means in generally is that, convention in the prevailing system. The prevailing system is Student Centerd Studying system. Other than that the the attitudes of the students, parents, teachers etc. There is strong myth ghosting tha son has to become an engineer or doctor in profession to be a successful man and so. The alternatives are been dumped. This is another meaning for the change of system:D

Is that attitude still there? :S I mean my parents have come out of that 'cage' now....

x-pert
05-17-2008, 08:48 PM
na macho they can do some changes in O/L A/L stages as well. they can change the contents mainly focus with job market and more practical stuff and english. i think if they can convert whole A/L studies to english medium that will be a better isead for future.

and ya machan like TAFE.. we have to have vocatinal training centers.

now after O/L if u fail the xm u dnt have any choice. if there is training schools like that they can go to them and make their carrer in future.

Hmm yes machang... English is a real problem. But first of all there should be properly educated teachers to teach English ne?

People who can handle English well don't go for teaching. They go for better jobs... Because teaching don't pay them good money for their abilities... :)

Teaching in English is a good option machang, provided that there are good teachers... So to do that there should be a properly established pay structure for the teachers....

Ya machang Vocational training centres tikak thibuna nam kiyala wadak naha :) I heard Aussies (Rudd govt.) are planning to bring down some US construction workers... In Sri Lanka there are really superb workers ne machang :) But due to lack of paper qualifications they can't apply for jobs here... There should be faculties to teach Building construction, Welding, Mechanics etc machang...

We can talk and give many ideas... But again... Do Sri Lanka have money to implement all these?

rash87
05-17-2008, 08:49 PM
Is that attitude still there? :S I mean my parents have come out of that 'cage' now....
Considerable amount has, but most yet lock them self unknowing & wrapped in fear in that cage;)
It's a pity, but the unawareness has contributed heavily on the matter.

x-pert
05-17-2008, 08:52 PM
practicle side as in having workshops and may be giving probation periods? (part time jobs would be hard to introduce cos of so called ethics)

no men assignments r nt functioning well:)

Ethics is not the problem machang... Culture is the problem. I'm not talking about Sri Lankan culture... it's the culture within the society.

Will a Manager let his son to go and work at KFC? Believe me... my company's GMs daughter is working at KFC part time..... And she is proud about it...

People in SL has a huge 'ego' machang... Many are ego maniacs... They think they are the top level people....

People don't respect cleaners, cmc workers and sometimes even police...

Everybody do have a self respect and a dignity ne machang....

That's where it has to be changed... People should start to think everybody is equal. Then many problems will be solved in our country machang... Ego..

howitzer
05-17-2008, 08:59 PM
ok first of all Dr Rosa is Not the official paper maker of the Physics paper.ITs Prof Ariyarathne.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

U r not supporting ur earlier points. U said earlier that Physics is needed for doctors because of the fact some get the chance to study micro biology or whatever it is. And physics is needed to study that. Well my point is that they can learn the little bit of physics we do @ A/l’s at that stage.U think the knowledge we gain abt Physics at A/Ls is so great?Well I did Electronics for O/ls machang and I learnt much more about Electronics and Electricity than The A’levels.

My point is a student who is so great at maths can be more handy for the country if his time is spent more learning maths.Its a complete waste of time for him to learn the inorganic reactions which are even not explained how they happen at the A/L stage.Its like studying literature. May be u did not study Maths For A/Ls .
Ever heard of Calculus? Its even needed for bio students at the campus.I think it might be worth for the math students if they study more math than chemistry.
And the z score system is not even transparent anybody who is placed higher in education department can bamboozle it .
hey this is totally out of the point.This has nothing to do with the system of education.It just depicts the courruption of the government.Whether it is Z SCORE or not they will keep on doing this for ever.:frown:

rash87
05-17-2008, 09:05 PM
ok first of all Dr Rosa is Not the official paper maker of the Physics paper.ITs Prof Ariyarathne.:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

U r not supporting ur earlier points. U said earlier that Physics is needed for doctors because of the fact some get the chance to study micro biology or whatever it is. And physics is needed to study that. Well my point is that they can learn the little bit of physics we do @ A/l’s at that stage.U think the knowledge we gain abt Physics at A/Ls is so great?Well I did Electronics for O/ls machang and I learnt much more about Electronics and Electricity than The A’levels.

My point is a student who is so great at maths can be more handy for the country if his time is spent more learning maths.Its a complete waste of time for him to learn the inorganic reactions which are even not explained how they happen at the A/L stage.Its like studying literature. May be u did not study Maths For A/Ls .
Ever heard of Calculus? Its even needed for bio students at the campus.I think it might be worth for the math students if they study more math than chemistry.
And the z score system is not even transparent anybody who is placed higher in education department can bamboozle it .
U know u just don't read my post carefully enough.:) It's just not about entering a certain field that u need Physics. U know my friend, for a succsessfu growth in plants there are more than one factor. The plant may grow with out one or two factors, yet for the maximum harvest, u have to have all the factors;):) Same story here, Physics completes a Science student. The way u r saying, we could askthe bio students to learn the neede Chemistry while they are doing university studies ne;):rofl: The thing is there is more than what it seems in the contribution with Physics for a Bio student. We are going out of topic now:D

Well I just laid my view about the current educational system:D It's ur view, I have reason out about the position I stand today:D:)

Oh, sorry, but wasn't it was Dr. Rosa who did back in 2006 & before?:rolleyes: Anyway out of topic again:rofl:

rash87
05-17-2008, 09:10 PM
Ethics is not the problem machang... Culture is the problem. I'm not talking about Sri Lankan culture... it's the culture within the society.

Will a Manager let his son to go and work at KFC? Believe me... my company's GMs daughter is working at KFC part time..... And she is proud about it...

People in SL has a huge 'ego' machang... Many are ego maniacs... They think they are the top level people....

People don't respect cleaners, cmc workers and sometimes even police...

Everybody do have a self respect and a dignity ne machang....

That's where it has to be changed... People should start to think everybody is equal. Then many problems will be solved in our country machang... Ego..
Wel it's all u have mentioned in details is the ATTITUDES;):)

What can be the solutions for change in these attirudes, cuz I feel once with the change of attitudes, the prevailing Educational System will meet new ends:D

x-pert
05-17-2008, 09:22 PM
Wel it's all u have mentioned in details is the ATTITUDES;):)

What can be the solutions for change in these attirudes, cuz I feel once with the change of attitudes, the prevailing Educational System will meet new ends:D

True bro :)

Solution again is proper education ;)

Attitudes should be taught from the kindergarten itself..

Teachers have to encourage students to respect the cleaners in the school as an example....

And students should be given the opportunity to clean the school including the toilets. (These may seem like stupid for some people. But it really has an effect in changing attitudes.)

Then the big thing is to equalize the opportunities, salary structures etc....
Hard. But Government should concider doing this in the long run.... ;)

rash87
05-17-2008, 09:31 PM
True bro :)

Solution again is proper education ;)

Attitudes should be taught from the kindergarten itself..

Teachers have to encourage students to respect the cleaners in the school as an example....

And students should be given the opportunity to clean the school including the toilets. (These may seem like stupid for some people. But it really has an effect in changing attitudes.)

Then the big thing is to equalize the opportunities, salary structures etc....
Hard. But Government should concider doing this in the long run.... ;)
Well good approcah, but the equalizing the salaries?
Can u explain it further more, it sure will end up one problem in the educational system but won't it errupt another?:oo:

x-pert
05-17-2008, 09:37 PM
Well good approcah, but the equalizing the salaries?
Can u explain it further more, it sure will end up one problem in the educational system but won't it errupt another?:oo:
Oh sorry sorry.. I didn't express myself properly neda :)

Didn't mean giving the same salary to everybody machang :)

But the Sri Lankan salaries should be somewhat parallel.... I mean like if a doctor gets a salary of 35,000 then a cleaner should atleast get 15,000.

AFAIK now the cleaning salary is less than 8,000.

Teachers should get atleast 20,000 - 25,000

All the professionals like Doctors Engineers SW personnel should get a equal salary like 35,000 - 40,000 atleast.

But again, in Asian countries it is hard to do that machang... :)

That's why there are very limited or no developed countries in Asia.

BLACK KNIGHT
05-17-2008, 09:41 PM
EK eke kollanta therena de ape AMATTANTA therenna nae...ekai me prob eka...monawa karannada

DJ.Parker
05-17-2008, 09:44 PM
Ethics is not the problem machang... Culture is the problem. I'm not talking about Sri Lankan culture... it's the culture within the society.

Will a Manager let his son to go and work at KFC? Believe me... my company's GMs daughter is working at KFC part time..... And she is proud about it...

People in SL has a huge 'ego' machang... Many are ego maniacs... They think they are the top level people....

People don't respect cleaners, cmc workers and sometimes even police...

Everybody do have a self respect and a dignity ne machang....

That's where it has to be changed... People should start to think everybody is equal. Then many problems will be solved in our country machang... Ego..

that's what I meant mucho........I guess I slipped the correct word........sorry for that :)

rash87
05-17-2008, 09:46 PM
Oh sorry sorry.. I didn't express myself properly neda :)

Didn't mean giving the same salary to everybody machang :)

But the Sri Lankan salaries should be somewhat parallel.... I mean like if a doctor gets a salary of 35,000 then a cleaner should atleast get 15,000.

AFAIK now the cleaning salary is less than 8,000.

Teachers should get atleast 20,000 - 25,000

All the professionals like Doctors Engineers SW personnel should get a equal salary like 35,000 - 40,000 atleast.

But again, in Asian countries it is hard to do that machang... :)

That's why there are very limited or no developed countries in Asia.
Well u even have questioned how practical it could be!

The question strike me still though is that will it be enough to make an impact on the change of prevailing attitudes. Cuz adjacent to the salary, the self dignity, reputation, recognition & stability of the jobs have erupt questions.

DJ.Parker
05-17-2008, 09:49 PM
Well u even have questioned how practical it could be!

The question strike me still though is that will it be enough to make an impact on the change of prevailing attitudes. Cuz adjacent to the salary, the self dignity, reputation, recognition & stability of the jobs have erupt questions.

ya true mucho......people in higher ranks don't want to bring down the gap between them and lower ranks.......what they want to do is to widen it as much as possible....:no:
they need a serious brainwash to wipe their wrong attitudes

CoolCartoon
05-18-2008, 02:15 PM
Ethics is not the problem machang... Culture is the problem. I'm not talking about Sri Lankan culture... it's the culture within the society.

Will a Manager let his son to go and work at KFC? Believe me... my company's GMs daughter is working at KFC part time..... And she is proud about it...

People in SL has a huge 'ego' machang... Many are ego maniacs... They think they are the top level people....

People don't respect cleaners, cmc workers and sometimes even police...

Everybody do have a self respect and a dignity ne machang....

That's where it has to be changed... People should start to think everybody is equal. Then many problems will be solved in our country machang... Ego..


thats is the main problem in SL machan. there are high class jobs and low class jobs in SL. thats why all are trying go for better jobs and finally get in to problems.

it is too hard to change this attitude machan. people never respect if u r a cleaner or if u r working in restaurant or a garment factory etc....

salaries also not enough and the diference between salaries are really high. That is also a big problem.