මාංශ භා නිර්මාංශ ආභාර Must read it And Undesrtand

hafizsaad · Nov 17, 2009

senator said:
I am sorry to say this. But this simply shows your ignorance.

You don't seem to know the globally accepted scientific view at present. I can quote if you want. But you can find it out yourself if you care to do so.

If you can't, please tell me. I'll help.

Brother may be i have confusion on this topic but the science material i have read favour non vegatarian point more....and science favour Eating vegitable and meat at balance. we dont say only eat meat, any things excess could harm therefore islam also has permit both things to eat in balance.
Brother i have read and also imagine that the vegatarian usually not eat meat mainly due to 2 purpose one they take it a cruelity and pain for animal and they show/think mercy for animal and second some people take some animal as a holy things....the scientific view that i percieve insist more on balance food vegatarian and non vegarian.
Brother my aim is not to expose your or your religion view but giving a neutaral view as our religion has permited both vegatarian and non vegatarian, more frankly i also like vegitable dishes more.
Lets tell me what you says on this topic....

senator · Nov 17, 2009

sirajstc said:
Qur’an permits Muslims to have non-vegetarian food
The Qur’an, however permits a Muslim to have non-vegetarian food. The following Qur’anic verses are proof of this fact:

Do you eat meat because Koran asked you to eat meat or because of your greed?

Forget about Koran. Do you sincerely feel deep within your heart that it is all right to cruelly kill another mother-like, death-fearing animal and eat its flesh?

If you say, yes, then carry on with that brutal halal killing and all the rest of it outside Arabian desert where any amount of plant food is available in this 21st century.

hafizsaad · Nov 17, 2009

senator said:
I can reply this very logically point by point. But the time is the problem. Why are your posts so lengthy?

If a Muslim can be a vegetarian and still be a good Muslim, why not be a good vegetarian Muslim?

Muhammud (Peace Be Upon Him) lived 1400 years ago in a dessert. The people were so uncivilised and dirty. There was not enough water. There was no communication with the outside world. There were no plants other than the date palm.

So, He had no alternative but to ask people to kill animals and eat meat. That was the best advice at that time in that part of the world.

But that advice is not relevant in the 21st century, my friends. That advice is not relevant in any country where there are plants or where plant based food can be imported as they do today.

So, why not be good vegetarian Muslims?

Brother all you mention upper not possible without a clear permission from the God, as God has the Only authority in any religion who has clear concept of Almigthy God to permit and people who have belief also take it beneficial for them as they say God has made all things and he know which thing is beneficial for us.God in quran has permit both vegatarian and non vegatarian, and Prophet Muhammad also had used Meat after the permission of God.
You also saying right Meat in those days easily accessable than vegitable in deserts...but that was not to due to ignorancy or cruelity.

senator · Nov 17, 2009

hafizsaad said:
Brother may be i have confusion on this topic but the science material i have read favour non vegatarian point more....and science favour Eating vegitable and meat at balance. we dont say only eat meat, any things excess could harm therefore islam also has permit both things to eat in balance.
Brother i have read and also imagine that the vegatarian usually not eat meat mainly due to 2 purpose one they take it a cruelity and pain for animal and they show/think mercy for animal and second some people take some animal as a holy things....the scientific view that i percieve insist more on balance food vegatarian and non vegarian.
Brother my aim is not to expose your or your religion view but giving a neutaral view as our religion has permited both vegatarian and non vegatarian, more frankly i also like vegitable dishes more.
Lets tell me what you says on this topic....

Oh. Scientists and nutritionists all over the world agree today that vegetarian diet is healthier than meat eating. OK. I will give you more scientific details later.

senator · Nov 17, 2009

hafizsaad said:
Brother all you mention upper not possible without a clear permission from the God, as God has the Only authority in any religion who has clear concept of Almigthy God to permit and people who have belief also take it beneficial for them.God in quran has permit both vegatarian and non vegatarian, and Prophet Muhammad also had used Meat after the permission of God.
You also saying right Meat in those days easily accessable than vegitable in deserts...but that was not to due to ignorancy or cruelity.

Has Almighty God or Muhammad asked you not to be a vegetarian?
I don't know. But another Muslim here said that you can be a good Muslim while still being a vegetarian.

hafizsaad · Nov 17, 2009

senator said:
Has Almighty God or Muhammad asked you not to be a vegetarian?
I don't know. But another Muslim here said that you can be a good Muslim while still being a vegetarian.

brother i think there is misunderstanding our religion permit both vegatarian and non vegatarian food. there is no one side restriction that one must choose one thing.sometime non vegatarian restricted and haram in islam due to relevant health decease like brother sudunone mentioned in above post.
extrimism is not allowed in islam..the people who like vegitable islam permit them to eat and some like meat islam also pemit them to eat but in balance and allowed meat.
Brother there are scientific proof which favour both side but in balance ,everything has its importance.
brother i think this is not the matter of debate or islam or other religion who permit eating meat not restrict all people of universe to eat meat, if any one us dont beleive he should leave it...
what you says

senator · Nov 17, 2009

hafizsaad said:
for animal population, nature (i dont use God word for your understanding) has also made a system and circle chain (i studied this circle in my 8th class science book) that maintain animal population rate.

The system is so impressive that we can't brake people from eating meat even by force as nature also want this to maintain rate.

Throw that 8th class science book into fire!

Man need not eat meat to maintain the balance of nature. On the contrary, all agree that large scale animal farming in the developed countries (for food) has disturbed the balance in nature.

thilina1024 · Nov 17, 2009

navodwickra said:
hamoma methana thama thamange adahas post karala thiyena eke mamath mehema deyak post karanna hithuwa.

Ape agame(i am a catholic) hatiyata sattu marima awulak na maranne kaamata pamanak nam mokada GOD sattu mawala thiyenne ape prayojanayata ganna thama(but in a gud way). Ewunath attatama balapuwama apita aithiyak na mona hethuwaka unath sattu maranna mokada apith kamathi na wena kaagewath ahaara welak bawata path wenna. anika thama methana okkoma radaa pawathinne food chain eka matha. Eka hinda api kanna giyama me gana hithala puluwan tharam mas kanne nathuwa inna puluwan nam bohoma hoda deyak.

මෙන්න මොලේ තියෙන වුන්. යමක් දිහා සාධාරණව බලනවා. එළම තමයි සහෝදරයා

. ඔහොම යන් . කවුරු කොහොම මොනවා කීවත්, බුද්ධිමත්ව හිතන්න මොලයක්, සංවේදී වෙන්න හිතක් අපිට ලැබිලා තියෙනවා. :yes:

ඔයාලගේ ආගමේ හැටියට කියනව නම්, දෙවියන්වහන්සේ දුන්න මොලේ පොඩ්ඩක් පාවිච්චි කරන්න බැරි ඇයි?.

senator · Nov 17, 2009

hafizsaad said:
brother i think this is not the matter of debate or islam or other religion who permit eating meat not restrict all people of universe to eat meat, if any one us dont beleive he should leave it...
what you says

Yaluwa. This thread is named 'Mansa Ha Nirmansa Aahara'. It was started by a Muslim.

navodwickra · Nov 17, 2009

thilina1024 said:
බුද්ධිමත්ව හිතන්න මොලයක්, සංවේදී වෙන්න හිතක් අපිට ලැබිලා තියෙනවා.

Onna oka thama deyyo dunna lokuma de apita oka use karanne keeyen keedenada

navodwickra · Nov 17, 2009

thilina1024 said:
ඔයාලගේ ආගමේ හැටියට කියනව නම්, දෙවියන්වහන්සේ දුන්න මොලේ පොඩ්ඩක් පාවිච්චි කරන්න බැරි ඇයි?.

Moleta wada use karanna pothane machan. Ona magulak unoth denne pothen. eke mehemai meke mehemai kiyala habai chuttak wath ara dunna mole use karanne na. Pothe minissu marana ekath awulak na kiwwoth ekath karai :rofl:

hafizsaad · Nov 17, 2009

senator said:
Throw that 8th class science book into fire!

Man need not eat meat to maintain the balance of nature. On the contrary, all agree that large scale animal farming in the developed countries (for food) has disturbed the balance in nature.

i have not said that man eat meat to maintain balance but nature has itself a system to maintain balance.May be this logic could not correct in some circumstances.
brother i have thrown that book before your saying and also 9th class biology book as that book includes darwin theory of evolution.. :lol:

thank for peacefull discussion

I love Srilanka · Nov 17, 2009

senator said:
Do you eat meat because Koran asked you to eat meat or because of your greed?

Forget about Koran. Do you sincerely feel deep within your heart that it is all right to cruelly kill another mother-like, death-fearing animal and eat its flesh?

If you say, yes, then carry on with that brutal halal killing and all the rest of it outside Arabian desert where any amount of plant food is available in this 21st century.

See Mr.Senator

Dont argue foolish.Allah has created the humans as one of the top creation in the world.and Quran say we can have non veg.even most of the hindus called themselves as vegetarians based on some sort of useless proof though their scriptures even allowed to eat like quran.So,please mind it, not only Quran has permitted to eat non veg, even almost all religions allow this. not much argument required for proving this.even a simple following reason can prove this.

If you observe the teeth of herbivorous animals like the cow, goat and sheep,
you will find something strikingly similar in all of them. All these animals have
a set of flat teeth i.e. suited for herbivorous diet. If you observe the set of teeth
of the carnivorous animals like the lion, tiger, or leopard, they all have a set of
pointed teeth i.e. suited for a carnivorous diet. If you analyze the set of teeth of
humans, you find that they have flat teeth as well as pointed teeth. Thus they
have teeth suited for both herbivorous as well as carnivorous food i.e. they are
omnivorous. One may ask, if Almighty God wanted humans to have only
vegetables, why did He provide us also with pointed teeth? It is logical that He
expected us to need and to have both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian
food.

hafizsaad · Nov 17, 2009

senator said:
Yaluwa. This thread is named 'Mansa Ha Nirmansa Aahara'. It was started by a Muslim.

brother i dont know sinhale language but i think he has only post his religion viewpoint on topic and he has not try to expose other religion...May be he has try to answer in some point where other religion point effect his religion view point but i believe that comment was only for clearing his religion position not exposing other religion.
am i right

senator · Nov 17, 2009

Oh! My God!

sirajstc said:
Question:

6. Hindu scriptures give permission to have non-vegetarian food

So, You eat meat because Hindu scriptures permit to eat meat? Oh! My God!

Are you following Hindu scriptures or Holy Koran? Are you Muslim, Hindu or what?

Just throw Hindu scriptures and the Koran into dustbin. Just stand erect on your own feet.

thilina1024 · Nov 17, 2009

sirajstc said:
Machan mama metana kiyanne ne ema satekma maranna kiyala tamanta kanna puluwan sataawa witarai

MAchan mama eeta kalinuth oyagen prasnayak ewwa praanagaatanaya nam oyata maduruwekwath maranna be hope you got it

සහෝදරයා හරි. මදුරුවෙක් මැරීමත් පවක් තමයි. සතෙක් මරන්න දරන මහන්සිය වැඩි වෙන්න වැඩි වෙන්න එකේ බරපතල කම ලොකු වෙන්වා. උදාහරණයක් විදියට, මදුරුවෙකුයි, හරකෙක් හරි අලියෙකුයි ගත්තොත් ඒක තේරේවි. හැමදේටම අරමුණ තමයි මුල් වෙන්නේ. හැබැයි සහෝදරයා මෙහෙම එකක් තියෙනවා. අපේ ඇඟේ "ඉච්ඡානුග" සහ "අනිච්ඡානුග" කියලා ක්‍රියා වර්ග 2 ක් තියෙනවා. කට්ටියට සමහරවිට මතක ඇති ඉස්කෝලේ විද්‍යාවට ඒවා උගැන්නුවා. "ඉච්ඡානුග" කියන්නේ අපි දැනුවත්ව කරන දේවල්. දුවන එක, කනවා බොනවා වගේ දේවල්. "අනිච්ඡානුග" කියන්නේ එකේ අනිත් පැත්ත. ඒ කියන්නේ, අපේ අනුදැනුමකින් තොරව සිදු වෙන දේවල්. අපේ හාට් එක වැඩ කරන්නේ අපිට ඕනේ විදියට නෙමේනෙ. කකුලේ කටුවක් ඇනුනම අපි එක පාරටම කකුල උස්සනව. ඒකත්, අනිච්චානුගයි. මදුරුවෙක් මැරීම මේ දෙකින් එකකට අයත් වෙන්න පුලුවන්. ඒ කියන්නේ, අපි මරන්නම ඕනෑ කියල හිතුව නම් ප්‍රාණඝාතයක් වෙනවා. සමහරවෙලාවට, අපි මදුරුවෙක් අපිව කාපු ගමන්ම එක පාරට ඌව මැරුවත් සමහරවිට ඒක අපි හිතා මතා නොකලා වෙන්න පුලුවන්. එහෙම වුනොත් අරමුණක් නෑ. ඒ නිසා ප්‍රාණඝාතයක් නෑ.

senator · Nov 17, 2009

I love Srilanka said:
See Mr.Senator

Dont argue foolish.Allah has created the humans as one of the top creation in the world.and Quran say we can have non veg.even most of the hindus called themselves as vegetarians based on some sort of useless proof though their scriptures even allowed to eat like quran.So,please mind it, not only Quran has permitted to eat non veg, even almost all religions allow this. not much argument required for proving this.even a simple following reason can prove this.

Don't argue foolish, please. Read the whole thread. Obviously, you have not read it fully. Read my several posts comparing herbivores and carnivores. I can't repeat and repeat them.

hafizsaad · Nov 17, 2009

senator said:
So, You eat meat because Hindu scriptures permit to eat meat? Oh! My God!

Are you following Hindu scriptures or Holy Koran? Are you Muslim, Hindu or what?

Just throw Hindu scriptures and the Koran into dustbin. Just stand erect on your own feet.

senator, i could not imagine and hope you will coment like this.... :no:

we muslims dont insult other religion and not permit other to insult our religion. .. are you not know what Quran has importance for us.... :angry:

dont say thing which disturb peacefull enviorment of forum...dont become racist...
Dont insult other religion....
Be cool... i first time have seen your unethical language.

anyone who say eat meat...tell me what loss he give you...?

thilina1024 · Nov 17, 2009

navodwickra said:
Moleta wada use karanna pothane machan. Ona magulak unoth denne pothen. eke mehemai meke mehemai kiyala habai chuttak wath ara dunna mole use karanne na. Pothe minissu marana ekath awulak na kiwwoth ekath karai

කාට කියන්නද මේ දුක කිව්වලු.

sudunone · Nov 17, 2009

I love Srilanka said:
See Mr.Senator

Dont argue foolish.Allah has created the humans as one of the top creation in the world.and Quran say we can have non veg.even most of the hindus called themselves as vegetarians based on some sort of useless proof though their scriptures even allowed to eat like quran.So,please mind it, not only Quran has permitted to eat non veg, even almost all religions allow this. not much argument required for proving this.even a simple following reason can prove this.

If you observe the teeth of herbivorous animals like the cow, goat and sheep,
you will find something strikingly similar in all of them. All these animals have
a set of flat teeth i.e. suited for herbivorous diet. If you observe the set of teeth
of the carnivorous animals like the lion, tiger, or leopard, they all have a set of
pointed teeth i.e. suited for a carnivorous diet. If you analyze the set of teeth of
humans, you find that they have flat teeth as well as pointed teeth. Thus they
have teeth suited for both herbivorous as well as carnivorous food i.e. they are
omnivorous. One may ask, if Almighty God wanted humans to have only
vegetables, why did He provide us also with pointed teeth? It is logical that He
expected us to need and to have both vegetarian as well as non-vegetarian
food.

Talking about teeth, we have 4 pointed teeth, which become blunt very soon. In contrast, we have 12 flat teeth. Wisdom teeth are a set of flat teeth that appear as a person matures.
Many people loose most of their teeth, specially the front ones, as they age.

Personally, I believe we have pointed teeth in order to open bottles, chew nails and bite away plastic tags on clothes.

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