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1. The rupa is a combination of mahabutha. So how is it "no more" when someone is not looking at it?. Of course he will loose the contact with the rupa, but does it mean the rupa is not there?

2. How does "this" anicca (volatility manner) lead to dukka and then anatta?

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the rupa we see is not only a combination of maha butha. Its a result of combination of maha butha and the eye. So depending on the eye the rupa would be different .

For example a color blind person , a normal person and a person wearing sun glasses look at same place . Will all three see the same?
And once all of them have looked away which version of the image will be remaining there ?
I suggest you spend some time listening and learning and then come back if you have any questions.

"අහුත්වා සම්භුතං හුත්වා න භවිස්සති" යනුවෙන් අප මහ බුදුරජාණන් වහන්සේ වදාල සේක. "පෙර නොතිබීම හට ගෙන ඉතුරු නැතිවම නිරුද්ධ වන" යන්න එහි අරුත වෙයි. අභිධර්ම ප්‍රකරණය, ධම්ම සංගනිය , රූපකාණ්ඩය





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the rupa we see is not only a combination of maha butha. Its a result of combination of maha butha and the eye. So depending on the eye the rupa would be different .

For example a color blind person , a normal person and a person wearing sun glasses look at same place . Will all three see the same?
And once all of them have looked away which version of the image will be remaining there ?

උබ කියන්නේ රූප කලාපයක තියන වර්ණ රූපය ගැන වෙන්න්න ඔනෙ
රූපකලාපයක(ශුද්ධාශ්ඨකයක ) කම්පොසිශන් එක,
පඨවි,පාපෝ, තේ,වා,වර්ණ,ඝන්ධ,රස,ඕජා නේ.
ඒකේ තියන වර්ණ රූපයතමයි චක්ඛු ප්‍රාසාදයට ගැටෙන්නේ.
(රසරූපය තමයි ජිව්හාවලට )

ඒත්රූපයක වර්ණ රූපය ඒකටම ආවේනික දෙයක් නිසා ,දකිනකෙනා අනුව බාහිර රූපයේ වර්ණයේ වෙනසක් නෑ. දකින කෙනා අනුව වෙනස් වෙන්නේ රූපාරම්මනය කියලා මම කියන්නෙ

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අපේ ලොකු ස්වාමින් වහන්සේට නමස්කාර වේවා....


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අපේ ලොකු ස්වාමින් වහන්සේට නමස්කාර වේවා....


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උබ කියන්නේ රූප කලාපයක තියන වර්ණ රූපය ගැන වෙන්න්න ඔනෙ
රූපකලාපයක(ශුද්ධාශ්ඨකයක ) කම්පොසිශන් එක,
පඨවි,පාපෝ, තේ,වා,වර්ණ,ඝන්ධ,රස,ඕජා නේ.
ඒකේ තියන වර්ණ රූපයතමයි චක්ඛු ප්‍රාසාදයට ගැටෙන්නේ.
(රසරූපය තමයි ජිව්හාවලට )

ඒත්රූපයක වර්ණ රූපය ඒකටම ආවේනික දෙයක් නිසා ,දකිනකෙනා අනුව බාහිර රූපයේ වර්ණයේ වෙනසක් නෑ. දකින කෙනා අනුව වෙනස් වෙන්නේ රූපාරම්මනය කියලා මම කියන්නෙ
Agreed!. Rupa rupa walata ithi wenne warna kiyana eka shuddasataka wala tiyena. Eka eye eka matha depend whenne naa..
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I suggest you spend some time listening and learning and then come back if you have any questions.

"අහුත්වා සම්භුතං හුත්වා න භවිස්සති" යනුවෙන් අප මහ බුදුරජාණන් වහන්සේ වදාල සේක. "පෙර නොතිබීම හට ගෙන ඉතුරු නැතිවම නිරුද්ධ වන" යන්න එහි අරුත වෙයි. අභිධර්ම ප්‍රකරණය, ධම්ම සංගනිය , රූපකාණ්ඩය





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Thanks for the links and I have listened them before. I used to be a big fan of Mankadawala thero and Prof. Ravi. But i find some of their explanations are conflicting (Specially Prof.). So I deviated from them a bit.

Even in this aniccha sanna exlanation by Prof, he says if we hear a sound from a bird, the bird is the rupa. The rupa is the FORM of the way we get the information. For example: Bird sound is the rupa (shabda-rupa or sound-from) not the bird itself.

What I understand from the anicca sanna sutta: The audience of this sutta is the asruthawat prutagjana sharavaka. The rupa/vedana...... for them is the pancha-upadhana skandayaya. So the rupa mentioned here is rupa-upadhana skandhaya. Looking the aniccha dukka anatta of the pancha upadhana skandaya is the way need to be done. It also matches with all the other suttas perfectly. This is the way you can get rid of avidhya/thanha..

I still dont see the meaning of aniccha from this sutta , it says if you look them anicca way you get this. It doesnt say what aniccha is.

Let me know your thoughts.

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X අහමඩ්, උඹට මම නොකිය කිව්වා මෙකේ ප්‍රස්න අහන ඔක්කොම සද්භාවයෙන් නෙවෙයි අහන්නේ කියා. උඹ උත්තර දුන්නේ අවංකව වෙන්න ඇති, හැබැයි තෙරෙනෙවා නේද උඹ ලියපුවල කිසිම වැඩක් නෑ- බක් ටු ස්ක්වෙයාර් වන්. රවුමේ මුලට ඇවිත්. ඕක තමයි කියන්නේ පොඩ්ඩක් බලපන් කොහෙන්ද ප්‍රස්නේ එන්නේ කියා. උඹේ කාලේ නාස්ති කරගන්න එපා!
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X අහමඩ්, උඹට මම නොකිය කිව්වා මෙකේ ප්‍රස්න අහන ඔක්කොම සද්භාවයෙන් නෙවෙයි අහන්නේ කියා. උඹ උත්තර දුන්නේ අවංකව වෙන්න ඇති, හැබැයි තෙරෙනෙවා නේද උඹ ලියපුවල කිසිම වැඩක් නෑ- බක් ටු ස්ක්වෙයාර් වන්. රවුමේ මුලට ඇවිත්. ඕක තමයි කියන්නේ පොඩ්ඩක් බලපන් කොහෙන්ද ප්‍රස්නේ එන්නේ කියා. උඹේ කාලේ නාස්ති කරගන්න එපා!
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please remove your colored glasses. I see you spend much time on proving abhaya thero's issues by showing many videos and stuff. Thats OK. But you spent zero time on replying my questions or helping others. Only He (X ahmed) did. Thanks to him. This shows your attitude clearly buddy. Have a nice day
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