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hafizsaad -if somebody claims that quran says earth is flat, is it a misconception ?
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Question: Sheikh Ibn Bâz on the roundness of the Earth
Question: Al-Salam-`alaykum.
I read a fatwâ purportedly by the Sheikh Ibn Bâz (may Allah forgive him) wherein he said: "The Earth is flat. Whoever claims it is round is an atheist deserving of punishment." Sheikh Ibn Bâz was one of the greatest scholars of today. However, I do not understand this fatwâ. Please explain it to me.
Answered by the Scientific Research Committee - IslamToday.net
All praise is due to Allah, and may peace be upon His Messenger.
Here is Sheikh Ibn Bâz’s fatwâ on the matter:
According to the people of knowledge the Earth is round. Indeed, Ibn Hazm and other scholars have declared that there is consensus on this matter among the people of knowledge This means that all of the surface of the Earth is connected together so that the form of the planet is like a sphere. Nevertheless, Allah has spread out the Earth's surface in relation to us, and He has placed upon it firm mountains, the seas, and life as a mercy for us. For this reason, Allah said: "And (do they not look) at the Earth, how it was spread out flat (sutihat)." [Sûrah al-Ghâshiyah:20] Therefore, the Earth has been made flat for us in regards to our relationship to it to facilitate our lives upon it and our comfort. The fact that it is round does not prevent that its surface has been made flat for us. This is because something that is round and very large, then its surface will become very vast or broad, having a flat appearance to those who are upon it."
This is the fatwâ of Sheikh Ibn Bâz about the shape of the Earth. So do not listen to those who lie against him and try to make it seem as though he was some "old fool" who did not even know that the Earth is round. Such people are liars and slanderers. At best, they are rumor mongers who narrate whatever they hear without verification the accuracy of what they say. As the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "It is sufficient to consider a man a liar when he narrates everything that he hears." [Sahîh Muslim]
http://islamtoday.com/show_detail_se...main_cat_id=31
Question: Sheikh Ibn Bâz on the roundness of the Earth
Question: Al-Salam-`alaykum.
I read a fatwâ purportedly by the Sheikh Ibn Bâz (may Allah forgive him) wherein he said: "The Earth is flat. Whoever claims it is round is an atheist deserving of punishment." Sheikh Ibn Bâz was one of the greatest scholars of today. However, I do not understand this fatwâ. Please explain it to me.
Answered by the Scientific Research Committee - IslamToday.net
All praise is due to Allah, and may peace be upon His Messenger.
Here is Sheikh Ibn Bâz’s fatwâ on the matter:According to the people of knowledge the Earth is round. Indeed, Ibn Hazm and other scholars have declared that there is consensus on this matter among the people of knowledge This means that all of the surface of the Earth is connected together so that the form of the planet is like a sphere. Nevertheless, Allah has spread out the Earth's surface in relation to us, and He has placed upon it firm mountains, the seas, and life as a mercy for us. For this reason, Allah said: "And (do they not look) at the Earth, how it was spread out flat (sutihat)." [Sûrah al-Ghâshiyah:20] Therefore, the Earth has been made flat for us in regards to our relationship to it to facilitate our lives upon it and our comfort. The fact that it is round does not prevent that its surface has been made flat for us. This is because something that is round and very large, then its surface will become very vast or broad, having a flat appearance to those who are upon it."This is the fatwâ of Sheikh Ibn Bâz about the shape of the Earth. So do not listen to those who lie against him and try to make it seem as though he was some "old fool" who did not even know that the Earth is round. Such people are liars and slanderers. At best, they are rumor mongers who narrate whatever they hear without verification the accuracy of what they say. As the Prophet (peace be upon him) said: "It is sufficient to consider a man a liar when he narrates everything that he hears." [Sahîh Muslim]
http://islamtoday.com/show_detail_se...main_cat_id=31
http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=74&tSoraNo=79&tAyahNo=30&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=2
وَٱلأَرْضَ بَعْدَ ذَلِكَ دَحَاهَا
and after that He spread out the earth: He made it flat, for it had been created before the heaven, but without having been spread out;
above link clearly explains about the Quran verse 79:30 by Tafsir Al-Jalalayn claiming earth is flat.
this is from a most respected Islamic scholar, This site is published by Royal Aal al-Bayt Institute for Islamic Thought of Kingdom of Jordon.
Is this a misconception by our lord Allah (SWT) ?
Answered by the Scientific Research Committee - IslamToday.net
All praise is due to Allah, and may peace be upon His Messenger.
Here is Sheikh Ibn Bâz’s fatwâ on the matter:According to the people of knowledge the Earth is round. Indeed, Ibn Hazm and other scholars have declared that there is consensus on this matter among the people of knowledge This means that all of the surface of the Earth is connected together so that the form of the planet is like a sphere. Nevertheless, Allah has spread out the Earth's surface in relation to us, and He has placed upon it firm mountains, the seas, and life as a mercy for us. For this reason, Allah said: "And (do they not look) at the Earth, how it was spread out flat (sutihat)." [Sûrah al-Ghâshiyah:20] Therefore, the Earth has been made flat for us in regards to our relationship to it to facilitate our lives upon it and our comfort. The fact that it is round does not prevent that its surface has been made flat for us. This is because something that is round and very large, then its surface will become very vast or broad, having a flat appearance to those who are upon it."
These Idiots are funny. Never heard of plate tectonics!"Mountains placed on earth"! what a bunch of jokers! This allah doesn't know about UNFLAT parts of the world. he just knows the desert, what a surprise for an almighty god??
Answered by the Scientific Research Committee - IslamToday.net
All praise is due to Allah, and may peace be upon His Messenger.
Here is Sheikh Ibn Bâz’s fatwâ on the matter:According to the people of knowledge the Earth is round. Indeed, Ibn Hazm and other scholars have declared that there is consensus on this matter among the people of knowledge This means that all of the surface of the Earth is connected together so that the form of the planet is like a sphere. Nevertheless, Allah has spread out the Earth's surface in relation to us, and He has placed upon it firm mountains, the seas, and life as a mercy for us. For this reason, Allah said: "And (do they not look) at the Earth, how it was spread out flat (sutihat)." [Sûrah al-Ghâshiyah:20] Therefore, the Earth has been made flat for us in regards to our relationship to it to facilitate our lives upon it and our comfort. The fact that it is round does not prevent that its surface has been made flat for us. This is because something that is round and very large, then its surface will become very vast or broad, having a flat appearance to those who are upon it."
These Idiots are funny. Never heard of plate tectonics!
al-jalalayn explanation is even funny , simply says earth was made flat !!!!!
These Idiots are funny. Never heard of plate tectonics!
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your comments make no sense. your comments show you are a mad person.
i have posted that comments on flate earth, about the query of fake zakir on quran one verses that is about the flate earth. this does not says that there are no mountain on earth.
Quran has mentioned the Mountain in the way which show its miracle. i will post that in another post.
why you are questioning again and again. have my above post not clear the misconception about this flate word.see the highlighted point and then see my 1 st post in the thread.
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no no no , no need of other posts , prove your point here
i gave you the verse 79:30 and Tafsir Al-Jalalayn explanation above.
so clarify your position regarding Allah (SWT)'s misconception.
why you not try to read my first post carefully instead of questioning crazy way.Man that flate word is about is surface not its shape. the Earth has been made flat for us in regards to our relationship to it. The fact that it is round does not prevent that its surface has been made flat for us. This is because something that is round and very large, then its surface will become very vast or broad, having a flat appearance to those who are upon it."
i hope this will clear you.
explanation says "He made it flat" , this means flatness is relating to him (Allah{swt}) not us.
if you don't believe this , shall i show you a TV debate where Islamic scholar proves that earth is flat who refute the scientific claim that earth is round ?
my brother , These are Allah (SWT)'s holy words , he tells us that earth is flat in verse 79:30.
if you don't believe this , angels will hit you with a hammer while you're in grave , they will rejoin your broken skull and keep hitting you. after that 90 snakes each with nine heads will come and bite you until you believe Allah (SWT)'s words which says earth is flat. Also you will be attacked by a strange little scorpion whose poison can melt all your bones.
Peace be with you and may you don't experience the above mentioned suffering.
there is some difference of opinion among scholars but they are not in majority.
Concensus of Muslim scholars that earth is round has been stated by Ibn Hazm, Ibn Taimiyyah, Ibn al-Qayyim and others.
http://www.55a.net/firas/arabic/?pag...select_page=10
http://www.eltwhed.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1158
what you have quoted i highlighed is your logical fallacy. Quran is not revealed for God but revealed by God for mankind, mentioning the all thing for mankind.
i will not comment more.
Allah Know best.
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there is some difference of opinion among scholars but they are not in majority.
what you have quoted i highlighed is your logical fallacy. Quran is reveal for God but revealed by God for mankind, mentioning the all thing for mankind.
i will not comment more.
Allah Know best.
So Allah (SWT) knows that earth is flat ? is that it ? according to Chapter 79 verse 30 as you say that it was revealed to mankind ?
my friend there will be 180 snakes each with 18 heads biting you while your in grave if you don't believe this verse which says earth is flat.
for Allah (SWT)'s sake brother hafizsaad , do you want to undergo that kind of suffering ?
Allah Know best.[/B]
According to the debate precisely not....
And my other friends, what did i tell you about Teaching quantum physics to a 6 year old kid.....
Forgive me friends... Actually Im getting tired of these discussions...
මෙලොවක් නැත....
පරලොවක් නැත....
...... යනාදීය නියත මිත්යා දෘශ්ටියයි....
According to the debate precisely not....
And my other friends, what did i tell you about Teaching quantum physics to a 6 year old kid.....
Forgive me friends... Actually Im getting tired of these discussions...
මෙලොවක් නැත....
පරලොවක් නැත....
...... යනාදීය නියත මිත්යා දෘශ්ටියයි....
'මගේ නාමයෙන් මරහං; පවු නෑ එතකොට' කියන අයගෙං වෙන මොනවා බලාපොරොත්තු වෙන්නද මිත්යාදෘෂ්ටි මිස.
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